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Matt Mechling (Dawgfan)
New member
Username: Dawgfan
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 2:33 pm: | |
Thank you all for your input. I certainly appreciate it. I called FOA and spoke with Wade. Great guy. Gave me soem great ideas. Now, I have to hire a mechanic in UK to go fix it. I'll keep y'all in the loop and let you know what comes of it. |
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 667
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:56 am: | |
yes it matters. If you get it wrong, well the crank won't turn and there may not be enough thrust end-play. Ask me how I know.
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Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Member
Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 279
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:41 am: | |
There are some great mechanics at FOA. Ask for Wade. They can sort it out in no time |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member
Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 553
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:20 am: | |
At one of my previous jobs, I was a "troubleshooter" at an Acura dealership. I used to take any car that came into the Used Car Dept inventory with a Clifford alarm, yank out the entire system, and throw it into the dumpster. I probably did this 50 times. We had too many problems with them, and most of them appeared to have been installed by chimps. You're better off without it unless you can verify that it is definitely NOT the problem. |
Malcolm West (Ferrari_uk_tech)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrari_uk_tech
Post Number: 93
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 7:23 am: | |
The Clifford Alarm system (depending on what model it is) can be wired to the car to cut out the ignition system, which is the fault with your car, or it can be wired to cut out the fuel pumps. I'm not saying that the problem is caused by the alarm, but don't count it out.
It may be something simple like the switch assembley that screws onto the back of the ignition switch. you can find a wiring diagram on http://ferrari.jenkins.org/books/
It's a case of starting from the battery and working through the ignition circuit - good luck.
MW |
DGS (Dgs)
Member
Username: Dgs
Post Number: 298
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 6:45 am: | |
If the car would crank, but no key services (ignition lights, etc), I'd say it was relay "u".
But if it doesn't crank either, then it sounds like there's no voltage to the key switch. This could be bad contacts in connector "W" of the relay panel. (The key warning buzzer is a separate switch which gets power via another path.)
There are no fuses in the path from the battery to the key switch, so if something shorted in the key switch, the fairly weak relay panel connectors would act like a fuse.
That's just a guess, of course, based on your description and a quick glance at the wiring diagram.
You'll probably need a voltmeter and a copy of the wiring diagram to track this down. (You might try a google search on "Ferrari 328 Wiring Diagrams") |
Matt Mechling (Dawgfan)
New member
Username: Dawgfan
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 8:04 pm: | |
Hey gang, just found the site. Very cool.
Two weeks ago I purchased a 1987 328 GTS. It's a Black US Spec LHD car that was exported to the UK from NY back in 1990. It's got 22k on it and is in very nice condition other than some minor blemishes. I have the entire history on the car including the original buyers order, etc. I went over to Manchester a couple weeks back to purchase it. The car checked out great, ran extremely strong, and was frankly better than I anticipated. There was one problem, but the seller fixed it while I was there. The ignition was always a little tight, and so the seller replaced a small plastic component located in the ignition line behind the ignition switch. While these were apart you could place the key in position II and turn the ignition with a philips head and it started fine. He then replaced the plastic component with a new one and the car and ignition worked great. We played with the car for a day and then took it to Liverpool to be shipped out. The car was parked in a secured area of the dock until it could be put on the boat the next week. During the course of the week, the guys in charge of the compound area moved it and everything worked fine. Then when the guy came form the shipping company to take it through inspection, he couldn't get it started. I don't have much info as to what the car did, but I was told that the ignition lights worked etc. Because they couldn't get it started (????) they called over a mechanic that works on their trucks. Well, he fiddled with it, who knows what exactly. I can't get a straight answer, but now the ignition lights won't come on and it won't crank. When you put the key in the ignition and have the door open, the door chime works, the lights work, flashers, etc, but it won't turn over and the ignition lights won't come on. The guy who I purchased it from went down today and checked it out and discovered they had messed with some fuses, etc. He is quite experienced with the mechanics of cars and can't figure it out. He tried taking tehignition apart and starting it with the philips head, but that wouldn't work. The battery is fully charged. Obviously, as some of the electronics work, but it seems the ignition is not getting any positive feed form the battery. It has a Cliffor Alarm on it with ignition disabler,but that should only break the line to the starter and not disbale the ignitionlights, etc. Anybody ever have anything like this occur? Any ideas or advice? Independent Ferrari Mechanic in Atlanta area?
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