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Richard W. Barclay (Noesis)
New member
Username: Noesis
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 9:39 pm: | |
I know most modials have some electrical problem in the form of the compression clips that mate with the flat pin on the connector block. They were not as strong as they should be over the years when age sets in. Also, the main fuse box up front was a set of nine (9) printed ciurcut boards fused together in layers. Problem was that when you first start your engine, all the power to drive the solinoid is run thru that printed board and burns at the solder points, Also at the end of the clips (I talked about) they get hot and fatigue more. You can see this by the discoloration to the block housing where the wire harness connects.
Mine ran the whole gambit of items.
1. the rotary switch lost it's grip.
2. the baklite connector under the car where the engine connects to the frame was put on the WRONG side of the frame by the preivious owners mechanic, thus the thing was heat treated by the exhaust and failed.
3. the fuse box clips went with age.
and lastly
4. the clips under the dashboard went the way of the fuse box clips. If yours does not stare maybe you should check the WHITE wire in that block. Sometimes they separate and come lose.
After that all was fine. Time: Three (3) days of testing. For you... free. |
David P. Tarkington (84mondialcab)
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Username: 84mondialcab
Post Number: 13
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 1:55 pm: | |
For what its worth, my 84 Mondial Cab had a grounding problem here. The neg battery cable goes through a cutoff switch (mounted near the radiator) which was a bit rusty and wasn't making good contact. |
Carstore of Glenside (Carstore)
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Username: Carstore
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 7:22 pm: | |
Where are you in Philly? There is a good guy in Ambler, PA and another in Hamilton SQ, NJ. |
Chris Shenberger (Shenbec)
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Username: Shenbec
Post Number: 26
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:15 am: | |
I have had work done by both Rich and Garry at Don Galbraith and was satisfied by there work and fees. This was on a 308, I would question them about there familiarity with the newer models. |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
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Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 370
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:30 pm: | |
Chris,
I was in Philly Last Jan, but not now.
Clean the small primary blade connection at the starter. I had a problem with my 1985 Cab. that when the motor got warm, the starter got to hot to work.
I had the starter rebuilt by a local BMW outfit, they even had a new solinoid for it in stock. .. . . . . $78.00 |
Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
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Username: Azzuro328
Post Number: 298
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:09 pm: | |
Chris,
You could try Mike Tillson in Philly or Don Galbraith Motoring in Devon. Both do a lot of Ferrari work and have good reputations. Good luck!
-Augustine |
Chris Anderson (85mondialcab)
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Username: 85mondialcab
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:48 am: | |
Thanks for the advice. I think that may have something to do with it since I had a hard time getting the terminals tight enough. I'll try pulling the battery and doing what you say to see if the will take care of the starting problem. I'll let you know how that works out. Thanks again. |
DGS (Dgs)
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Username: Dgs
Post Number: 326
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 6:03 pm: | |
If the battery is good and the starter doesn't turn, then you're possibly not getting enough power (current) to the starter. If you're getting full voltage and current to the starter and it's still not turning, then it's facing more torque than it can handle. Either it's jammed, or turning the engine is too much for it, or something similar.
Check your connections, starting with the battery terminals.
I had a weird one on my 328, where it only had trouble starting when hot -- because the battery terminals would expand, and the connection would get loose. When it was cold, it was fine. I cleaned up the terminals and applied a bit of spark plug cap electrolyte gel to keep moisture out. It's been fine since.
In your case, it could be a connection anywhere from the battery to the starter -- and back (grounds). If all your connections are working, either your starter motor lost a few turns (so it can't produce as much torque), or your motor is too hard to turn for some reason (or the starter motor is jammed somehow).
Good luck. |
Chris Anderson (85mondialcab)
New member
Username: 85mondialcab
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 4:04 pm: | |
I bought the car in Pittsburg. I have been to Algar a few times but was wondering if there was an Italian car mechanic locally which may have better rates on service. Thanks for the info though. |
djmonk (Davem)
Member
Username: Davem
Post Number: 414
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
The dealer Algar is in Philly. Good luck.
Did you buy this Mondial from a gentleman in CT? |
Chris Anderson (85mondialcab)
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Username: 85mondialcab
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
Hi! I am new to this message board and I have recently bought a 1985 Mondial cabriolet in the Pergo color with 26K miles. The car had been a blast to drive but I have recently experienced a starting problem. The first time this happened, I hooked my battery charger to the car and it started up. Since then I have replaced the battery but it just makes a humming sound when I turn the key and will not turn over. I have heard that this could be caused by the starter not getting enough voltage but I am new to the car so I am not sure where to start with this (no pun intended). In worse case, does anybody know of a good Ferrari mechanic in the Philadelphia suburb area? I appreciate any help on this. Thanks. |