| Author | Message | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2003 |
Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I've been using the car today and it has been fine. When I was able to push the strip firmly all the way back into place it must have done the trick. Kind regards, Justyn. | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 89 Registered: 4-2003 |
Thanks again Jeff. I'll take a look at the car this weekend providing I have time and I'll keep you posted. Kind regards, Justyn. | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 582 Registered: 12-2002 |
Closeup might help.  | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 581 Registered: 12-2002 |
Justyn: Reprints of the Parts Books are pretty easily available and very useful. I have also seen them on disc and microfiche. The clarity isn't real good once it has been reduced to 640 pixels to fit here, I can do an enlargement of a particular area if you wish. Bear in mind that the big arrow points towards the front of the car, and the diagram shows the left door. #12 is the "Door Belt Height Gasket". #42 is "Bi-Adhesive for Gasket Fastening", so I'm assuming that your loose strip should be secured with a double-back tape product of some kind. Looking at your closeup picture, it appears that there is some red paint overspray on the bottom of the seal, so someone may have dislodged the seal while doing a repair on the door? You can probably fix it without buying any new parts, but you will likely have to take the door apart to do a permanent fix. | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2003 |
Philip, thanks for the tip. I'm in the UK, we don't have AutoZone here but I can find the same product from a similar store here. Jeff, thanks for the pic, where do you get those from, you must have access to an electronic catalogue I guess? I can't see the pic very well, it looks like the part in question is in two pieces but on the car it looks like one piece. In the pic there is a part number 35 which looks like a fixing screw but Charles said there were no fixings on his car (unless I'm looking at the wrong bit!). It also looks like it is at the wrong end of the strip anyway. I'll see how I get on, I may have fixed it already, if not I think I'll try Philip's suggestion. Kind regards, Justyn. | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 578 Registered: 12-2002 |
Here is the diagram from the Parts Book.  | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 427 Registered: 2-2003 |
Justyn.........before you go through all this trouble.....go to AutoZone and buy a tube of rubber molding adhesive....just dab on a little bit(with a Q-Tip) under the rubber piece that keeps lifting. Hold in place with your finger for about 30 seconds...........fixed. | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 85 Registered: 4-2003 |
Charles, thanks for taking a look at it for me. As it just pushes on, I am hoping I have managed to fix it by pushing it back into place without having to dismantle anything. Some photos would be very useful. Kind regards, Justyn. | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 726 Registered: 11-2002 |
Justyn, I took the door apart yesterday and discovered that the piece you are refering to is a one piece rubber strip that just attaches to the edge of the top of the door just by pushing in on. It has no fasteners or glue. I will get picks of everything today. It was fairly easy to get it all apart. The whole thing took less that an hour per side. | ||
| Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member Username: Darolls Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2003 |
Justyn- The Ferrari Owners site has electronic parts catalogs, though not for the 348. I suggest you contact your Ferrari dealer's parts dept. | ||
| J R K (Kenyon)
Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 743 Registered: 10-2002 |
photos woud be cool. thanks | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 83 Registered: 4-2003 |
Charles, thanks for your advice and your kind offer to take some pics. I have managed to push the strip fully back into place so I will see if this has done the trick next time I use the car which will be before Saturday (weather permitting!) If I am still having trouble I'll let you know. I have seen people post pics on here from some sort of parts catalogue, maybe that would show if the piece in question has a fixing at that end of it? I don't know where these pics come from though, maybe some sort of electronic parts manual that I don't have access to. Kind regards, Justyn. | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 725 Registered: 11-2002 |
Justyn, I am in the process of taking my doors apart right now as I am preping my car for paint. I will let you know how it works when I get it apart. The "cheeze grater" is held in place by some allen head screws, 2 hexhead bolts, and 1 phillips head srcew. The allen screws are on the exterior of the panel between strakes. The hex head bolts are inside the front edge of the door. You only need a metric ratchet to remove them. The phillips head screw is at the end of the door under the handle. The panel appears to made of fiberglass and it has a rubber seal glued to the inside face. Removal can be done in about 15 mins. I can get some photos of this if needed. | ||
| John Roberts (Bigbaddad)
New member Username: Bigbaddad Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2001 |
Justyn - When I said cheese grater, I was refering to the strakes that make up the lower part of the door. They are very easy to take off, and doing so gives you a great view of the interior of the door. Then you may be able to see what is wrong with the black trim piece or how to remove it. I don't think lubricating it is going to get it to stay in place though. If it is damaged you may have to figure out a way to re-attach it, or just replace it, but I don't know what is wrong with it. Hope this helps - -John | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 82 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi John, thanks for you reply. Can I ask, what do you mean by exterior 'cheese grater'? Do you mean the rubber strip I am having trouble with? If so, how do you remove it? I haven't tried removing this piece myself as yet. Tonight I compared the strip on the drivers door with the one on the passenger side and I was able to push it fully back into position. I'll have to see if it comes loose again next time I take the car out. Maybe applying some kind of lubricant would prevent it from lifting up again? I don't know what kind of lubricant you would apply to a surface that is in contact with glass though? Obviously not oil, maybe some kind of silicon spray? Justyn. | ||
| John Roberts (Bigbaddad)
New member Username: Bigbaddad Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2001 |
Justyn - I don't know how you would replace this specific piece, but I just had my door apart because the window was dragging on something. I started by taking the interior panels & pieces off. Unfortunatly, with these off, I couldn't see what the problem was. Then I took off the exterior 'cheese grater'. With it off, I found my problem. Doing this, I found that taking the cheese grater off was much easier than taking off all the interior panels. I guess my point is, if you are going to open it up and explore, start from the outside. It is much easier. -John | ||
| Justyn (Justynb)
Junior Member Username: Justynb Post Number: 81 Registered: 4-2003 |
The rubber strip pictured that runs along the top of the door (on my 1994 Spider) seems to have come loose and lifted at the mirror end of the strip.  I can sort of push it back down but whenever I raise the window it lifts up again. Does anyone know if this strip should be secured at the mirror end? Also I take it I will need to remove the interior door panel to service this item? Lastly, should I put some sort of lubricant on these parts (maybe silicon or something) so they have less friction when rubbing against the glass moving up and down? If the part needs replacing does anyone know what the cost would be (roughly) and presumably I would need to go to an authorised Ferrari dealership to get it? Thanks in advance for any help! Justyn. |