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Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell

Post Number: 1139
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 6:50 am:   

Peter,
I'll measure the shims I got from Geo.Evans tonight. I haven't done my valve clearance adj. job yet as last winter/spring's rocker panel rust removal project ran into the driving season.

I did search the archives & found statements that to QV shims were 28mm.
Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member
Username: Jimbo

Post Number: 112
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 5:13 am:   

I finally got a call back from NewCo. They have a 112 shim pack for $299, but, this week only, it is on sale for the LOW, LOW price of $246 (which is $2.19 per shim, not too bad actually). These are 29 mm shims.
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member
Username: Peter

Post Number: 3113
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 1:06 am:   

Verell, do you have any of the old shims lying around in your workshop? If you do, would you mind measuring the OUTSIDE diameter of the shim for me (and for the rest of FC members) please?

I ask, because for the longest time, I was under the impression that four-valve shims were 24mm in dia. and after seeing that Newco website link, they state "Outside dimension 29mm"...
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 777
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 9:38 am:   

I read somewhere (years ago) that Volvo shims fit the 328. I never followed up on it to see if it was baloney, however.
Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member
Username: Jimbo

Post Number: 111
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 8:36 am:   

Thanks to all for the help. I just bought a shim kit from George Evans. He sells a 70 shim kit for $199 ($2.84/shim) and a 140 shim kit for $299 ($2.13/shim). NewCo has a 112 shim kit for $259 or $289 (their computers were down), putting them at ($2.31 to $2.58/shim). WurthUSA no longer carries kits, and I could not get in contact with Winzer. So there you have it. You pays your money and you takes your chances...
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 2458
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 5:44 am:   

Wurth & Winzer both sell Volvo/VW Shim Kits. Kinda pricey to buy the full range kits for a 1 time DIY'er though.

Don't have their numbers or links handy, but they might be worth looking up & contacting.
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell

Post Number: 1134
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 9:45 pm:   

Paul,
Didn't mention NewCo because their price was ~2x George's when I was buying, & I promptly forgot their name.
Paul Wehmer (Pwehmer)
Junior Member
Username: Pwehmer

Post Number: 212
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 9:07 pm:   

http://www.newcoproducts.com/Ferrari/ValveAdjustment_shimPadKit.htm
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell

Post Number: 1132
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 7:35 pm:   

It's Evans Automotive:
TEL 614-471-7535 FAX 614-471-1319
http://www.evansauto.com/

He had both 2V & 4V shim kits.
Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member
Username: Jimbo

Post Number: 110
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   

Thanks. How can I contact George Evans?
I have discovered that all the 4-valve shims are the same, also I believe Volkswagen and Volvo 4-V engines use the same sized shims.
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell

Post Number: 1123
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 5:18 pm:   

I bought a 308 QV shim kit from George Evans a while back for something like $150 if this helps.
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member
Username: Fastradio2

Post Number: 367
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:45 am:   

Philip,

I too only use new shims when doing a valve adjustment...

Remembering the controversy over new versus used shims, a while back...I simply listed them both.

Agree-New shims=Cheap insurance

David
Philip Airey (Pma1010)
Member
Username: Pma1010

Post Number: 442
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

I am sure you know this, but be careful with the used ones and as a minimum turn them over. Having just had a camshaft repaired (expensive) due to worn shims, a few extra bucks on new shims is worth it in my opinion.
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member
Username: Fastradio2

Post Number: 363
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 1:44 am:   

Jim,
If the 512TR 4-valve shims are the same as the 308/328 4-valve shims...I have a large assortment of them (new and used)...and may have another source for them. Please e-mail me your needs.


David
Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member
Username: Jimbo

Post Number: 108
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 5:59 pm:   

Does any other make (Fiat/Alfa/Porsche) use valve shims that would fit a 512TR 4-valve engine? Some of the ferrari shims are out of sight.

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