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Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 570 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 10:26 am: | |
Hello Vince: You have a good point...the castings looked nice except for one of the top plenums. I've heard about clear coating engines and such, but was skeptical on how well it would hold up over time. So I simply zinc primered and painted them aluminum. The pics make the parts look kinda like comstume jewelry but in normal light they look like nice clean aluminum. And I didn't want to leave them bare as aluminum gets kinda "funny" after a while. There is too much shine to the parts, but I'll figure out some way to flatten them out a bit. |
vince porto (Vince)
New member Username: Vince
Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 10:12 am: | |
Jeff; Why not leave the intakes/ plenum with a glass bead finish and just paint the red portion in a crinkle finish? Fresh glass bead at high pressure leaves a 'sparkle' like finish with significant texture to it. To my eyes it is quite attractive. A light clear coat will preserve and enhance the finish. Was surprised to see that you covered up the glass bead work that you had completed.... Perhaps the casting was too imperfect... or you just didn't like it... or???? What are your thoughts? Rgds, Vince
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JohnR. (Rivee)
Member Username: Rivee
Post Number: 284 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 7:31 am: | |
Jeff, How did you end up with the Dining Room AND table after your divorce?
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Phil Hughes (Ferrarifixer)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarifixer
Post Number: 203 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 7:09 am: | |
Send an email to Roger Collingwood. Tell him I recommended you and he'll do you a deal. |
Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Member Username: Bob308gts
Post Number: 796 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
Contact Bill Badurski FCA tech advisor, he made up a system for his old TR using only Corvette resonators, may be a way to go |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 304 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:07 am: | |
Phil, I went to that website for Kent and didn't see any info on the Bell system. Any other links? Jim |
Phil Hughes (Ferrarifixer)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarifixer
Post Number: 196 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
The Bell's sound great. Really throaty with a "rrripp" or wail at high rpm. Only a hint of low rpm boom at boulevard cruising speeds too. Throttle response markedly up and the engine just seems to spin up towards the limiter so much faster. Get yourself in trouble very easily.....but maybe that's what you're after.....may have to tidy up the lounge once you get it all going again.....for the queue of new admirers! Bolt straight on in about 2 hours total.
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Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 567 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 9:41 am: | |
LOL.....breathing.....LOL..Again! Yes Phil they are "tarty" but oh what the heck. How loud are those "Bell" silencer systems? I would like some good sound out the back. I don't like the idea of a UPS truck having a better sounding exhaust than my Testarossa. And I am divorced...so no wife to complain about the intakes "adorning" the lounge. You should see the dining room table centerpiece...its the KE Jetronic Fuel Injection system off the TR. I figure I can put some fancy garnishes around it and maybe some flowers stuffed into each throttle body and I'll look pretty good. Being a single fellow though and living only for my TR, I do get lots of comments on my "interior decorations" around the house.
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Phil Hughes (Ferrarifixer)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarifixer
Post Number: 194 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 4:00 am: | |
Try www.theferraricentre.co.uk for one of their "Bell" silencer systems. They're half the size of the large single box late TR's. And of course, if you've got an old 4 box TR then you're a million times better off. I think you're inlets are way too tarty now. Glad to see them adorning your lounge though! Wifey must be delighted! |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 563 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:29 pm: | |
Henry....we may be onto something here. I'll keep in touch with any idea I come up with also. There may be some hope for me after all! |
Darryl - TR&328 (Tr328)
Junior Member Username: Tr328
Post Number: 113 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 9:28 pm: | |
Looks great! Good job! |
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1219 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 7:59 pm: | |
Jeff: The exhaust I removed was the Tubi system....sounds good, but only after 4K RPM. The system is as big, and almost as heavy as the original muffler. I think I will make short pipes, to test it, with only one hole exhaust per side. This will be done after the major. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 561 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 7:07 pm: | |
Yes Henry...that stock exhaust has gotta go! You've really got me thinking about alternatives for that big heavy muffler. The more I think about it, the more I agree to use the gutted precats as half of the system and either a small muffler in place of the cats, or no mufflers at all, and out the back. I wish I knew what it would sound like either way. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1218 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 7:00 pm: | |
Very nice Jeff. I finally have my TR on the lift....am draining fluids and removing the exhaust. I definitely will be replacing the exhaust with something homemade. |
Russ Turner (Snj5)
Member Username: Snj5
Post Number: 520 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
Looks terrific!! Congrats! |
Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax
Post Number: 415 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 3:12 pm: | |
Very, very nice. Aye, primer lets the fangs sink in, doesn't it? |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 560 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 2:51 pm: | |
Hello to all you good Ferrari people out there! I'm in a terrific mood as our man Michael won the US Grand Prix a few minutes ago. Anyways...you may recall I wanted to refinish my intake plenums and tubes to match the original factory silver/light gray crinkle finish. You cannot buy the factory paint as I've contacted several dealers trying to. One dealer put me in touch with a restoration shop that works on many Ferraris, and they basically outlined what I had to do. The guy also said be prepared to do this 3 or 4 times to get is right, because it takes them several tries and they do this stuff for a living. The first difficulty was getting "fresh" crinkle paint. There is so little demand for it in my small town that any on the shelf was bad from age. So I had to order by phone from VHT. My plan was to use black crinkle to get the texture on the intakes, then fog a silver over the top. The 2 main upper plenums turned out great with the crinkle, but I could not get the lower tubes to turn out. I tried twice to get it right, but it only ended up about 70% right. So after the second time and tons of work, I decided to strip it all off and just use aluminum paint. After hours of stripping and cleaning and glass beading for the third time, I then flushed everything with water to remove any media - you can't be too careful here. I then sprayed contact cleaner on everything and let the parts dry. Next comes the zinc primer as suggested by a fellow fchat member. I have skipped the primer step in the past with acceptable results, but using it REALLY makes a difference in the quality of the job. It turns out great! I then used the red crinkle to do the decorative portions on top 2 plenums, and carefully scraped the paint off of the ridges followed by a light sanding with fine grit paper. Prior to any painting I carefully masked off every port, hole, and fitting. The tape should only be removed once everything is done, you don't want any scrapings or sanding grit to get inside your nice clean parts. To use a term that I find funny but appropriate from ferrarifixer Phil, my intakes now look "tarted up" a bit. But it's better than it was. I'm not going for a concours correct car, just a nice looking one.
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