| Author | Message | ||
| Norm (32storm)
Junior Member Username: 32storm Post Number: 69 Registered: 5-2003 |
Job looks good, but the VHT red isn't even close to the original color. I tried a sample of the VHT red when I had the engine out for the major. The VHT red is too red. Original from factory is a red-orange. | ||
| Peter Polasek (Peterp)
Junior Member Username: Peterp Post Number: 136 Registered: 8-2002 |
I just finished mine with VHT. I heated it by starting the engine and letting it idle for 5 minutes and then letting it cool down -- this is an effective approach if you have the engine together. I also hit it with the hair dryer. The original color is slightly orange, the VHT color is not that close of a match, but it looks much better than the orange. I actually received a point off in a concours because the paint was "too orange" -- I didn't complain because the paint wasn't in great shape even though it was the orginal color. | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member Username: Verell Post Number: 1237 Registered: 5-2001 |
I've been holding off on respraying my QV's intake manifold because of the VHT red's color miss-match. Have been hopeing to find a better match in a red wrinkle powder coat. So far haven't even found any shade of red in a powdercoat. I may just give up on the powdercoat, spray it with VHT's red wrinkle. If I don't like the color, I'll just use an air brush to give it a mist coat of red body paint. Just enough to add the right color but not enough to obscure the wrinkles. | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 195 Registered: 9-2003 |
Maybe the factory somehow keeps the paint off the edges to begin with. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 2040 Registered: 5-2001 |
Okay, I know I am over analyzing this, but I notice from Jeff's picture, that the "factory" method of removing the excess paint is to wipe it off with a cloth (or something like that) NOT sand it off. Also, notice the factory metal finish is rather dull, with a clear coat spray over it? Bottom line Jerry, I LIKE what you have done! :-) | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 191 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol Ken - Yes, I will never be showing my car or anything nor could I tell if it is an "exact" match. I can just say it looks a heck of a lot better now & unless it was side by side with an original paint job, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Just hope the re-dyeing of the seats turns out as good.... One step at a time. :-) | ||
| Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk Post Number: 567 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hi all. You know, you just can't replicate that "just had some paint thrown at it in the Factory" look...!     | ||
| Ken Sullender (Sulley)
Junior Member Username: Sulley Post Number: 118 Registered: 9-2003 |
Jerry, exact color match or not, it still looks a heck of alot better than it did! I would choose the 'after' over the 'before' even if the color isn't exact. | ||
| Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member Username: Darolls Post Number: 147 Registered: 7-2003 |
Jerry- In bright sunlight, the colour looks alright. In subdued light, the red is very dark and just doesn't look right. Ok, call me anal! :-) | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 183 Registered: 9-2003 |
Looks good to me Skip. :-) | ||
| Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member Username: Darolls Post Number: 144 Registered: 7-2003 |
Ken- The VHT red is obviously not close to the original colour; it looks like the colour in the second photo of the finished product. I've seen a number of cars with VHT, and it just doesn't look right. I've thought about having a custom mix of the original colour made; shooting with the VHT crinkle, then lightly overspraying with the custom mix. | ||
| Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member Username: Darolls Post Number: 143 Registered: 7-2003 |
Ken- The VHT red is obviously not close to the original colour; it looks like the colour in the second photo of the finished product. I've seen a number of cars with VHT, and it just doesn't look right. I've thought about having a custom mix of the original colour made; shooting with the VHT crinkle, then lightly overspraying with the custom mix. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 2019 Registered: 5-2001 |
Nice job. | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 182 Registered: 9-2003 |
Ken - Talking to my mechanic, after years of trying, he said this was the closest match he could get. I guess you can't get the actual paint used back in the 80's on them because it is banned by the EPA in the US due to fleurocarbons used in the paint. I would have to compare mine right next to an original, but it looked like a great match to my eye. | ||
| Russ Turner (Snj5)
Member Username: Snj5 Post Number: 580 Registered: 2-2003 |
Great job - it looks perfect! Will definitely save this thread. | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 476 Registered: 2-2002 |
Jerry: Great job! How is the color compared to the original color? I show my car so I need an exact match as to color. Is the color close to the original red from Ferrari, or an exact match? Thanks. Ken | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 180 Registered: 9-2003 |
I went to sand this morning and was surprised the paint was slightly wet - I ended up using a razor blade to take most the paint off the edges - Actually helped that the paint was slightly wet - It came off like butter. I then sanded with a small palm block sander. I am very happy with the results! Note, the first picture is after using the razer blade, but before sanding. Not yet sanded :  After Sanding :   | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 167 Registered: 9-2003 |
Will post tomorrow after sanding edges Jim. :-) | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2665 Registered: 7-2001 |
Lets see the 'after'! | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 165 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hey Greg - I play guitar only a little bit - I'm a hack! lol I actually need to seel the amp to raise $$ for the car if anyone is interested. Looking for about $225 for it. | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 819 Registered: 3-2001 |
Nice. Do you play guitar. I see the Line 6 in the back. | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 161 Registered: 9-2003 |
Before:  After Bead Blasting at Napa Auto Parts :  After Bead Blasting at Napa Auto Parts :  Drying by Heater :  Paint Can :  | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 160 Registered: 9-2003 |
While my car was in for the major service, thought it was a good time to re-do the red paint on the engine. Here are the steps I followed : 1) Took the part to Napa Auto Parts to have the old Paint Bead Blasted. 2) Taped off edges & Covered with towels. 3) Heated with hair dryer. My mechanic recommended heating in oven for 10 minutes, but all I could visualize was the towels, etc bursting into flames! 4) Painted with VHT Wrinkle Plus Engine Paint. Color SP-204 Red. 5) Will sand edges, Ferrari Logo, 3200 quattrovalvole logo tomorrow & then I will post pic of finished part. 6) Let dry under portable heater. Thanks to Rob and his documentary at http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/partsandservice/detailing_engine/index.htm It gave me everything I need to know!!! Thanks Rob. |