| Author | Message | ||
| Paul (Pcelenta)
Member Username: Pcelenta Post Number: 406 Registered: 7-2002 |
I have some european made patch panels to fix this...if anyone is interested...also have fibreglass door skins to end the door rust forever! | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 2126 Registered: 5-2001 |
Alan, Remember we are discussing a 308...I think a more accurate term would be that the boxer trim on 308's was "available" or "optional", I don't agree with "popular". I have seen exactly two examples of 308's in boxer trim (both in magazines) one red/black and one yellow/black. The yellow one looked particularly good to my eye... | ||
| Todd A. Van Natta (Toddvannatta)
New member Username: Toddvannatta Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2003 |
I have had good luck with evans, maybe a hit and miss kinda place; athough, Evans himself has helped me over the phone for extended periods of time on a lamborghini with engine problems i was having. He got me all the way through it without complication. And sent me a parts manual to copy... no charge... givge them a shot if you are in their area. | ||
| Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 305 Registered: 12-2002 |
Dave, the Boxer trim was popular during the early years! Obviously discontinued when the TR was introduced! (Before your '87 was born!) I've seen a few Boxers without it also, apparently as a "Delete" option. The Black lower accents the upper profile of the fenders and roof IMO. Then if you put a naked lady on the hood sleeping, ya' got somethin'! You haven't seen that art print????? | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 545 Registered: 2-2003 |
p.s. Also if your in Columbus, I have had HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE experiences with Evans Automotive on Morse Road...........HORRIBLE.......word to the wise! | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 544 Registered: 2-2003 |
Stacey, I am in Columbus Oh..........I have found Davidsons Collision Center to be excellent! The guy there to talk to is Larry. He is VERY GOOD and Very Honest....nice guy, takes great care of you and you can trust him completely! Their number is 444 1234. They are in a a very industrial part of town...off of Alum Creek Drive, but again, I have personal experience with them, and they are awesome! | ||
| Stacey S. (Staceman900)
New member Username: Staceman900 Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks for the input everyone! Stacey | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member Username: Verell Post Number: 1299 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's a very common spot for rust. The body metal makes a small pocket where dirt can collect & hold moisture. Repair can be a little tricky because the section below it is fibreglass that's bonded up & onto the metal on the inside. The amount of overlap varies a bit from car to car. There's a similar pocket in front of the rear wheels where dirt gets trapped. Similar construction for the front wheels. Ask your repair shop to sand-blast the insides of the repaired area, then use POR15's etch & black coating to give the inside a moisture & O2 impervious seal. 2-3 coats of POR15 coating will do the job. This will prevent it from recurring for many many years. Always a good idea to make sure these little pockets get cleaned out each time you wash your car. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 2110 Registered: 5-2001 |
Stacey, I doubt that repainting all red would hurt resale, it would actually, probably help, since the boxer scheme is not particularly popular or common on 308's. Do what you like, and don't worry about it...It is easy enough to correct later if someone cares. | ||
| Norm (32storm)
Junior Member Username: 32storm Post Number: 78 Registered: 5-2003 |
It doesn't appear to be that bad. But, once the area is hit with a pressurized sandblast, that will give better indication of how bad. Better to get it now before it takes a turn for the worse. should be an easy fix for any qualified shop. | ||
| John Millard (Jmillard308)
New member Username: Jmillard308 Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2003 |
Stacey Sell it and get a glass one! The only part that rusts in them is the driver! Cheers Rusty John  | ||
| Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2002 |
Is this the rusty Ferrari thread? Yes, these cars are getting old. But look around for a 1977 Chevy and see if it doesn't have the same problem! Mild steel panels were not pre treated in those days. Hats off to the effort of a permanent fix. New steel is the way to go. Remember that bondo is a time honored italian tradition! I'd keep the Boxer trim if you have a Boxer to match! My .02 | ||
| Stacey S. (Staceman900)
New member Username: Staceman900 Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2003 |
Dave, It came originaly red over black (boxer style) and when I get it painted I'll most likely go all red. So I was wondering if changing from the original color hurts resale or do most people buy based on what they like? Thanks, Stacey | ||
| Mick Andriesse (8valve)
New member Username: 8valve Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hi Stacey! I own a 1977 308GTB, and in the past months my car has been undergoing a fairly extensive restoration/repaint.The corrosion on your car is a common area for 308�s, like the underside of the doors and also the same position on the front wings.Also the trapezoid shaped lower section between the front wheels and the leading edge of the doors is prone to rust. The restoration place where I took my car actually cut out the rusty spotsand panels(they removed all the carpeting in the trunk area to reach it)and welded in new sheetmetal parts on both sides. The thing is, if you only treat the rust from the outside, it will just be a matter of time before it reappears, since it comes from the inside.The doors on my car were the bulk of the work. About 50 hours of labour went into them. They had to cut and grind a lot of the underside of the door away, and remodel a new frame. Then they replaced the complete lower half of the doorskin, on both sides.The result is fabulous. The whole car received new paint(the original Blu Sera)except the roof and the rear decklid. This will be taken care of this winter.The reason why I did not have this done at the same time was that I needed the car on the 11th of October for the 20th anniversary of the Dutch Ferrari Owners Clubmeeting. 81 Ferrari�s gathered near Amsterdam and participated in a rally (in which me and my friend managed to finish in 5th place).I have about 150 pictures of the work that was done to my car,and I will post a couple of them in a few weeks time, since I will be away from home. As for the paint scheme on your car: I don�t think the boxer paintscheme has a large following, all red is better for resale in my opinion.When I decided on restoring my car, I knew I was going to be putting more money into it than I will ever get back for it in a resale. But I did it because I am keeping the car for myself, I have to be the one that likes it, so choose the paint-scheme you like. This coming from an originality freak, but all-red can very easily be changed back to the boxer colours. Good luck! Mick | ||
| Bert Kanters (Bert308)
Junior Member Username: Bert308 Post Number: 147 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you wait long enough, like I did:  | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 2101 Registered: 5-2001 |
Resale? You are returning it to all red, and removing the rust, can't see how that would effect resale. This is a common problem, but usually starts at the bottoms of the doors first or simulaneously. I would have the doors treated on the inside, while having the paint tended to...You might have them pull the fender liners and treat behind those panels by the wheels too. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1118 Registered: 9-2002 |
Repaint, and tell them to sand and clean out the area. Its not a major problem if taken care of when its just starting. Good luck. | ||
| Stacey S. (Staceman900)
New member Username: Staceman900 Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sorry, That's the rear tire on the drivers side we are looking at. So it would be the front of the rear quarter panel. Thanks, Stacey | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member Username: Verell Post Number: 1293 Registered: 5-2001 |
Stacy, Please orient us. Are we looking at the rear edge of the driver's side rear wheel, or are we looking at the front edge of the passenger's side front wheel? | ||
| Stacey S. (Staceman900)
New member Username: Staceman900 Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003 |
A couple of monthes ago my 308 developed a bubble in the paint and today I have this (please see picture). It also is starting the same thing on the other side. Is this a usual place for rust to start? Could there be a drain hole pluged? The rest of the car is in excellent condition except for some spider webbing on the right top front fender, but you have to look just right to see it. Its an 1980 GTSi with 24,000 miles and it is only driven in the summer maybe once or twice a week. The red is original but the black bottom was repainted around 1992 because of rock chips. Where is the best place to go when getting a ferrari painted? I live in Columbus OH. I was thinking of having it done all RED since I don't think I care for the boxer style paint. Will this affect resale?  |