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Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Member
Username: Me_k
Post Number: 817
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 9:03 pm: | |
I use the Accel 10mm. I bought straight boot, slid the OEM cover (that fits the valve cover)over it (WD-40 worked well) and threw out the OEM extenders and use resistor plugs. I've been running it like that for 3 years, although I haven't had the stock ignition stuff for the last 2, I did run it that way the first year with all the stock ignition (caps, coils, computers). Just a thought. |
Gianluca Chegai (Gianluca)
New member
Username: Gianluca
Post Number: 30
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:40 pm: | |
Jeff,
I bought a kit from Pep Boys (Accell ?) it was the only brand they had.
These are 8mm, Hi Temp, Radio Suppression (?) cables.
First of all, 8mm cables WILL fit without shaving or anything like that. Use a "whisper" of vaselline.
They already come with the metal clips attached but they have spare clips too and 2 different style of rubber boots including the long straight type.
Buy the 8 cylinder package.
The only issue I had was that for the coils; there were2 boots, 1 straight and 1 angled. Since on the 308 I needed both, my coils have a straight and an angled boot.
There will be plenty of cable to make the extra coil cable too.
$ 29.00 or 39.00 (I am losing my memory)...
Worked perfectly and it took 1 hour to make the cables up.
Good luck,
Gianluca |
Tom Francis (Tfrancis)
New member
Username: Tfrancis
Post Number: 41
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:10 pm: | |
Does anyone have extra sleeves? I'm making my own wires for my 328 and have a couple sleeves that need replacing. One to the ECU and one to the #1 plug on the rear. |
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 739
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:15 am: | |
There are no auto supply stores in the entire Bay area that will sell me one single foot of the "bulk" wires anymore. Maybe last year, but not this year.
I just buy a set of V8 wires from Taylor and use the crimper to make it fit by car. |
Bill Bode (Guillermo)
New member
Username: Guillermo
Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 1:11 am: | |
Radio frequency interference (RFI) due to automobile ignition systems can be a considerable problem for your own vehicle radio or that of anyone near your vehicle. Resistor plugs and wires will lessen this problem. The carbon-core type wires have a central core of synthetic filaments that are impregnated with powdered carbon as the conductor. These frequently have a dc resistance of about 5K to 10K ohms per foot (30 cm.) The problem with this type of spark wire is that with age, the carbon-core can separate slowly and cause their resistance to increase until they fail completely. Before this time it can cause intermittent ignition problems, even though the cable appears good externally. Only resistance measurement with a multimeter will show a greatly increased electrical resistance in comparison to the other ignition wires. Solid non-resistance metallic wire will have a very low electrical resistance depending on whether the wire is of steel, nichrome or copper (which should be zero if copper.) However, this solid straight wire will produce terrible RFI. I have been using an inductive wire (sometimes called "Magnetic or Inductive Suppression" wire) which consists of a fine steel or nichrome wire wound helically (spirally) around a central non-conducting core for some years. This provides high electrical impedence to the transmission of the higher radio frequencies, but has a relatively low dc resistance (usually on the order of about 700 ohms per foot.) Resistor spark plugs generally have an internal dc resistance of 5K to 10K ohms, though I have measured new plugs as low as 3K ohms and as high as 20K ohms. I have been very pleased with the helically wound inductive RFI suppression wire with resistor spark plugs. I have excellent RFI suppression, and the helically wound wire is extremely resitant to breakage due to flexion of the spark cables. I have seen this type spark cable manufactured by Borg/Warner in different auto part stores. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member
Username: Carguy
Post Number: 621
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:21 am: | |
I'm glad so many are responding to my question, Thank You Everyone. Many good points brought up. My wires look like they are the carbon core type. I would assume it takes a bit of wrestling and some silicone spray to re-assemble boots and the outer sleeves? I wonder if Summit Racing would have the connectors and stuff as well as wire? I'll do some searching around. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1756
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:00 pm: | |
Why bother to re-use the old ends and connectors, when you can get new for little $$? |
Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member
Username: Darolls
Post Number: 186
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:58 pm: | |
It's easy to do. Ferrari uses Cavis wire, which you can buy in bulk.
If your dealer doesn't have it, contact Randy at Continental Autosports in Hinsdale, IL; he stocks it and will sell you the exact # of meters you'll need (Don't forget to replace the coil wires too).
Reuse the old sleeves and connectors. DIY and you'll save hundreds of $'s.
It's time consuming but easy. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1755
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:45 pm: | |
Actually, many simply go to the corner parts store and match up whatever works. As I recall, some Dodge truck set has the correct ends for the V8 Ferrari. The other end has to be adapted to the dist cap. What I'm getting at here is that you don't have to re-use ends, as there are generic sets with the correct ends. But you DO have to be a bit creative.
Options should be similar for flat12/V12. However, you may have to buy 2 V8 sets and toss a few wires.
Or maybe you could find 3 sets of 4 cyl wires?
Just don't get carried away with trying to find "Genuine Ferrari Spark Plug Wires That Will Carry Italian Electrons". You'll pay thru the nose. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member
Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 790
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 9:53 pm: | |
Not a problem. Purchase bulk wire from an auto store, use old boots and extenders.
You will need to find the metal clips that pressure fit into the end of the wire on the sparkplug end. You might consider soldering these to the end. You can purchase carbon conductor (for EMF suppression) or copper conductor. It could influence the electronic (capacitive discharge) ignition, so I would try to reproduce the resistance of the original. You should have a silicone sleeve over your sparkplug wires, so the color becomes academic.
Jim S. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 2182
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 9:53 pm: | |
Short of making them up yourself, I have heard the Magnacor product is a lower cost alternative, and often considered an "upgrade" over the stock ones. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member
Username: Carguy
Post Number: 620
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 9:46 pm: | |
After checking my TR plug wires I have two that are suspect. The price for a set is pretty steep considering it's nothing high tech. A fellow fcar enthusiast has suggested making my own wires and simply using the boots and sleeves from my old wires. Makes sense to me.
I would like to hear other's experiences on this subject, any pitfalls to watch out for? Any problems with crimp connectors? Thank You in advance for sharing. |