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Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 740
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:11 pm: | |
It is always a good practice to make sure that the heads are on tight. You do this everytime you have access to the nuts and bolts. |
Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member
Username: Zff
Post Number: 158
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:42 pm: | |
Ok, so... sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do I need to retorque the head? |
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 738
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 9:07 am: | |
You do not need to engine out the thing just for the head nuts. But, it is a lot easier to get to all the nooks and crannies to do a complete cleaning of the engines. The seals are easier to do to. |
Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member
Username: Zff
Post Number: 157
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:39 pm: | |
The car has about 28,000 miles total, 4K of which were put on by me. It probably had about 15K when it was taken out of storage about 3 years ago (which is when all the servicing was done).
All of the coolant hoses have been replaced (along with the radiator and radiator fans), but most of the vacuum hoses have not. They're brittle and I plan on replacing them all. The belts are kinda odd.. they don't look all that new, but they don't look 10 years old either. I plan on replacing them all anyway.
I've already had to rebuild both rear calipers because the seals were leaking, and yeah, the power windows definitely have to be done.
It's starting to sound more and more like an engine-out job, especially if I'm retorquing the heads. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 1323
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:10 pm: | |
Cam seals also includes the distributor seals for the other end of the cams.
You can get the gaskets, seals, etc. as part of a cam belt service kit from T.Rutlands, other suppliers.
Consider replacing the timing bearings. Also plan on disassembling, cleaning & regreasing the tensioner assemblies.
Check the seals for the shift shaft, they're probably in need of replacement also.
Oh, yes, the infamous slow power window service for sure. |
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 737
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:43 pm: | |
Hoses include all hoses, fuel, vaccum, coolant. That will reduce a chance of ... fire.
I would surely leave the head gasket alone unless you are looking for a rebuild. As DH says, retorque of the head nuts is a good idea. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 2195
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:11 pm: | |
Your previous post says the belts and hoses were replaced....when exactly was that? |
Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member
Username: Zff
Post Number: 156
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:57 pm: | |
So cam seals, belts and hoses should do it? If I replace all those, can I be pretty sure I've taken care of all the parts that may have deteriorated during the extended storage?
Thanks |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 2192
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:22 pm: | |
Headgaskets are not replaced unless there is a problem, and replacing would require pulling the engine. If you are replacing the cam seals, you might go ahead and retorque the head bolts. |
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 796
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 6:25 am: | |
You can get to the cam seals with engine in car. I remove the passenger gas tank to do it but others don't. When you remove the cam belts, you'll need to replace them. Don't know about head gaskets; someone else here surely will though. Don't forget to check cam timing when you have valve covers off. If water pump is not leaking I'd leave it alone. You can easily get at it later if there is a problem.
My experience is with a 328 but they are similar. |
Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member
Username: Zff
Post Number: 155
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 5:15 am: | |
A few months ago, I learned my 308QV sat in storage for 8 years. Almost as if to prove to me how bad that is for an F-car, the seal on the rear exhaust cam started hemmoraging copious amounts of oil last week (at the race track).
I have the service records showing what was done to the car when it was pulled out of storage. The list is extensive (new fuel distributor, cam belts, coolant hoses, radiator, steering rack, etc.), but it does not include a set of new seals and gaskets.
Do the head gaskets need to be replaced? Can I get to the front cam seals with the engine in the car? Do I need to pull the engine out? Does anyone have a comprehensive list of everything I should replace? No need to list external stuff like hoses and belts... I can see those.
I don't mind so much pulling the engine out, but I'd rather not pull the head off or take the bottom apart if I don't have to. The car has less than 30K and other than the 8 years of storage, it was well maintained.
Also, what are good performance cams for the QV? I've searched the archives, but most of the performance cam threads seem to be talking about 2-valvers. |