| Author | Message | ||
| Joe (Jts)
Junior Member Username: Jts Post Number: 119 Registered: 8-2003 |
Speaking of the new 5 Series  , Last night on Speed, I saw a little piece on the next gen M5 which is slated to come to North America in 2005. 500 HP V10!! (I think he said 5.5 L) Sounds like an awesome motor - too bad it's still saddled with Chris Bangle's crack-induced design. (IMHO of course). | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 552 Registered: 11-2002 |
*yikes* That was a rough one, Amir. I guess I didn't know who I was dealing with. I mean, I have never heard a more original insult than having my mommy hold my d!ck while I pee. NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE. Well, now that I know I'm dealing with a pro, I'll sign off now. I'm hurting from that one, Amir. A real cheap shot. | ||
| James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member Username: Aventino Post Number: 121 Registered: 6-2003 |
The new 7 series has grown on me and I like the look alot more than the S class now so I suppose the 5 will do the same. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 163 Registered: 2-2003 |
Nibs, don't you have to ask your mom to help you go to the bathroom or something? | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 550 Registered: 11-2002 |
streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech! *YAWN* Ahhhhh...that felt good. I'm sorry, what did you say Amir? I missed that..... | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 162 Registered: 2-2003 |
Nebula Class = C U N T. Yet another slanging match started by a moron who has nothing to say. Nibs, I don't intend to go away. Ever. Choke on it. | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 547 Registered: 11-2002 |
Amir = D!ck As long as you know that Nick, nothing he says will bother you in the future. He's kinda like a zit - if you sit and finger it all day long, it just becomes a big, pusy mess. If you ignore it, it will eventually dissapear. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 161 Registered: 2-2003 |
Nick, no axe to grind. I didn't see a problem with their treatment of you. Telling us what you were wearing and how much it cost was a very cheesy thing to do. Especially when we know that Park Lane is just about the ritziest zipcode (postcode to you) in London. Here in the US, equality is an important concept. We don't expect our asses to be kissed, and jeans or suits get equal respect. Bikinis usually get the most, though. I did misunderstand the part about crowded. Thanks for clarifying that. As far as your writeup goes, most of us are interested in one thing, first and foremost. How it drives. Curves, grades, braking, body roll, varied pavement, torque, tyre warnings, etc., etc. Looks and feel and panel gaps are secondary. Look at the M Z3 coupe (ugly in most people's book) and how well it sold. Interior and exterior evaluations are subjective for the most part, and I thank you for giving us your take on it, but most of us would like to make up our own mind. Usually it's a distant second consideration to the car's performance. Same with comfort and instrumentation layout/ergonomics. Your comment in your reply that somehow you were doing all this as a favour to us by taking "time out of my day to give my impressions" was also quite self-serving. It took me hours to upload my pictures of F1, but I never thought about mentioning it. Let me end it--I am eternally grateful. Thank you very much. | ||
| Nick Coutts (Kickus)
New member Username: Kickus Post Number: 26 Registered: 2-2003 |
Amir, I wasn't clear enough in my write-up. By crowded, I meant crowded with lots of cars in a small space. I was the only customer in the showroom. You seem to have an axe to grind about something, is there any specific reason that my post offended you so much? I did after all take time out of my day to give my impressions of a car that I'm sure many other people on this board are interested in, without any personal gain. Should I just send everything I write to you in hopes it meets with your approval? Would you care to comment on anything other than the last two sentences of my write-up? | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 328 Registered: 9-2002 |
The front looks like a cat's face. Think about it | ||
| Kds (Kds)
Junior Member Username: Kds Post Number: 239 Registered: 5-2003 |
"Dame Edna" headlights was one comment I heard to describe the new 5 series light design. Personally I have not yet seen one, but photos have already given me a negative impression. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 153 Registered: 2-2003 |
If they had been fawning over you, you would have found something to complain about in their "pushy salesman" behavior. There's no pleasing everyone. You yourself said that it was busy and that you were peering through the windows first, a classic gawker tactic. Did you actually go to the receptionist and ask for a salesperson who could help you with any questions or show you the car? I think they did the right thing in letting you poke around by yourself and otherwise ignoring you. They didn't throw you out or treat you condescendingly, did they? Or are you disappointed that they didn't notice your $1,000 designer clothing on Park Lane, where the average person wears around $8,000? Try the McLaren showroom a couple of doors away. Chances are you won't even be allowed in by the lady sitting at the desk. McLarens have BMW motors too, but it's not a BMW-trained sales team running the showroom. You can try the Dorchester Hotel around the corner if you want people to fuss over you and make you feel important. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Intermediate Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 1092 Registered: 8-2001 |
Nick, There's your problem. They likely never heard of something as expensive as Zegna or Brioni. Maybe if you had worn a cheap Oxford suit they would have noticed you. Great write up on the car. I still don't like the styling but maybe it will eventually grow on my like the 7 did. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 www.flatoutracing.net | ||
| Nick Coutts (Kickus)
New member Username: Kickus Post Number: 25 Registered: 2-2003 |
Having an entire morning and afternoon to kill today before class, I made my way to London's Park Lane, which houses, among other things, a great many high-line auto dealer showrooms. BMW had the new 5-series on display, in silver (go figure) with black leather interior. From the back, I thought that it looked very much like the current 7-series, only much more matured and less cluttered. The trunk blends nicely with the lines of the car, and I find the taillights much more pleasing on the eyes. From the side, I find it to be totally undistinguished from any other car on the street, and rather disappointing. The showroom was crowded and it was difficult to get any distance from the car to gain any perspective on it, especially the front. Peering through the windows of the showroom, I liked the front of the car much more than I had from seeing pictures of it. I found it to be markedly aggressive, and amazingly didn't find the turn signal indicators feminine in the least. The interior is the car's strongest aspect, in my opinion. From the first time I opened the door, I was greeted with a heavy and solid feel, something I find lacking in nearly every car on the market today. The seats were fairly stiff heavily textured black leather, and comfortable without being noticeably so. The steering wheel was just the right thickness and size, with a beautiful set of gauges behind it. The i-drive system was housed to the left of the instrument cluster (this was a RHD car) and I thought it blended in nicely with the dashboard. The armrest was vastly different than I have seen in any other BMW, and it curved in a sort of half-moon shape with the i-drive controller at the end. I found it to be comfortable and natural to actuate the device from how I was seated. The wood-grain trim of the car was of a higher quality than that of the previous 5-series and E46 3-series (tested very scientifically by rapping it with my knuckles) and fit with the tone of the interior nicely. I'm finding it hard to describe, but there's so many little details to the interior that add up to something I found very positive and very attractive. The kick-panel at the bottom of the door was made of a satin-finished aluminum with BMW written on it. It looked like a very high-quality piece, and blended in so well with the rest of the interior. It's all of the small things and a lot of the big things that just gave me the overall impression of a higher quality interior than I've seen from BMW in a very long time. Would I purchase one? I'd have to drive it first, and from how I was ignored by the sales staff there, I doubt that will happen any time soon. Considering that I was wearing over $1000 worth of Ermenegildo Zegna business attire, was quiet and respectful, and that both myself and my family are loyal BMW owners, I am appalled by how much they reinforced the negative reputation that BMW dealers have. |