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| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 493 Registered: 12-2001 |
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| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 241 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rosso, regardless of whether a manual exists under one name or another, most people agree that the Segway is a simple device. Even if it's not, and even if there's a recall and it's dangerous, Dubya falling down looks funny. Just like Clinton looked funny eating his burgers and going for his jogs. What is it with presidents and jogging shorts? Falling is often funny to watch. Many comedy routines incorporate falling down or tumbling. It makes kids laugh. You know, kids who don't read much more into it beyond the fact that it's funny. Why you have taken it upon yourself to keep getting so offended is beyond me. If you want to demand respect for him because you respect him, sorry, it's a free country. We don't have to see eye to eye on that. I think Dubya provides us with reams of laughing material. And I choose to laugh at it. You don't have to. But to constantly widen this into a bickering over whether he should have his finger on the button or whether he does good for the environment or Iraq or Iran or whatever is simply pointless. Noone is saying that he should not lead the free world because of this fall. There's plenty of other valid reasons for that IMO. Obviously, not in yours, although it seems you have some doubts too. Whatever. Just laugh at a funny pic or move on. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill. Also, it would be silly of you to leave the country over this. Lighten up. It's funny, whether you agree or not. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 492 Registered: 12-2001 |
AMIR--"Dubya, falling off the Segway...so simple it doesn't come with an operating manual. Rosso, I know you don't like it and think it's disrespectful. But it really happened. " First and foremost, look at Marks post. I belive you just got "owned". Secondly, he fell. It was funny. It was great humor. And he now should not lead the free world. Your so right. Man, that damn Segway. That will be the one factor that does not let this man lead the country. I cant wait to move out of this country, since our leader cant ride a ••••••• segway. | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1015 Registered: 4-2003 |
Apparently he's not the only one: U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Segway LLC Announce Voluntary Recall to Upgrade Software on Segway� Human Transporters (HTs)
Ok, it doesn't come with something titled "operating manual" it does however come with a Safety Video, Riders Guide(book) and they send a Segway representative for product orientation: Training and Orientation
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| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 935 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hey my keyboard works again !! | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 934 Registered: 3-2002 |
Poverty, despair, and corruption amongst other neglected basic needs are just some of the items that lead to Sept 11.  | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 933 Registered: 3-2002 |
 WOMENS RIGHTS ? What has changed since the 14th century ? Nobody is protesting ? | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 932 Registered: 3-2002 |
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| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 931 Registered: 3-2002 |
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| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 930 Registered: 3-2002 |
DISAGREEING WITH BUSH COMPLETLY AND "WANTING" THE U.S. TO FAIL IN IRAQ. PERHAPS THEY SHOULD ALSO SPEND SOME TIME WORRYING ABOUT THE POVERTY AND CORRUPTION THAT GOES ON IN THE ARAB MIDDLE EAST ? OF COURSE NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER POSTED ANYTHING OF THE LIKE HERE. THE WEALTHY ARABS LIVING ABROAD HAVE NO DESIRE TO CHANGE A THING. WHY BOTHER WHEN YOU HAVE SEVEN MAIDS IN YOUR HOUSE ? KEEP THE PEOPLE SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY IN THE 14TH CENTURY FOREVER. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 239 Registered: 2-2003 |
Here's a funny one...  | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 988 Registered: 2-2003 |
Sorry, couldn't resist. One of my personal fav's.  | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 237 Registered: 2-2003 |
Dubya, falling off the Segway...so simple it doesn't come with an operating manual. Rosso, I know you don't like it and think it's disrespectful. But it really happened.  | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 236 Registered: 2-2003 |
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| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 929 Registered: 3-2002 |
MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS NOT SHUTTING OFF THANKS FOR THE ART WORK I SEE YOUR IGNORE FEATURE DOES NOT WORK EITHER THE NITE IS YOUNG CERTAINLY THERE IS SOME POLITICS TO DISCUSS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ? | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 235 Registered: 2-2003 |
lol or aol? Owned again.  | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 928 Registered: 3-2002 |
WORDS IN AMIRS MOUTH LOL I DONT THINK SO | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 941 Registered: 3-2003 |
Waiting for what? | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 940 Registered: 3-2003 |
Ralph, on those occasions when I have managed to wade past all your stereotyping slurs, I have noticed that you put words in Amir's mouth all the time. Why ask him to refrain? Not that he put words in your mouth. He accused Mike of falling into the Ralph trap, ie. behaving/posting like you. Certainly he and everyone else on here is in a position to see that for themselves. I don't see him putting any words in your mouth. In fact, he clearly said that you wouldn't go as far as Mike. Sorry, owned. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 234 Registered: 2-2003 |
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| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 927 Registered: 3-2002 |
Faisal: I am waiting. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 926 Registered: 3-2002 |
Faisal. I am all ready. | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 939 Registered: 3-2003 |
Amir, lol!!! Ralph, you got owned....  | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 925 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ignore feature? LOL Wow you got me all confused. You obviously are running around chasing your tail. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 233 Registered: 2-2003 |
Wow, that ignore feature works great! | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 924 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hi Mr. Amir: I went out tonight. I am a little late in getting back to you. I do not want you to use my name at your whim when you feel you need to attempt to express to other posters here what you (think or guess) what my views and thoughts are. You mentioned about a trap ? Well don't think that I am finished with just one simple question for you that you became flustered with. Oh don't worry I have plenty of "other" question or (traps as you call them) that I can put to your head that you may also try to avoid or run away from. You know exactly what I am talking about. Do not toss around here what you think are my views. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 985 Registered: 2-2003 |
Keep in mind I'm jaded too, so there's something in the numbers I'm not seeing and likely its the impact a cut on the lowest percent will have. Someone more knowledgeable will step up hopefully. I remember when I was in the lowest 20%. I was enlisted making between $14-$19k/yr but had several allowances (housing, food, utilities) so I was far from poverty. I feel bad for that bottom 20%, if its not by choice or lack of effort. A tax cut just isn't going to solve their money problems, but it gives me a few extra thousand to play with. What a horrible thought! | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 232 Registered: 2-2003 |
Sunny, interesting stuff. It's too late right now for me to pore over it, and I still have a ton of studying to do. But I did read in several places that the tax cut did nothing for the economy and only benefitted the wealthy who were not hurting to begin with. The reasoning used made sense to me, but I will dig it up to make sure I get all of the arguments/analysis. Will post when I find it. Thanks for this. | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1012 Registered: 4-2003 |
turn on speaker and click to hear Jack Nicholson say it | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 982 Registered: 2-2003 |
"Tax cut for the wealthy and the lousy economy - 10%." Amir, I agree with the rest of your post, we have a boob and we put him there. We know better now. However, would you check out this links below and explain what parts of the tax cuts you don't agree with? I loved the fact of getting a cut, but I did some research the last half hour and came up with these two links. http://www.ctj.org/html/gwb0602.htm Combine the info on those tax cuts with the IRS tax info released in 2000 broken down in laymans terms at this link: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/top_50__of_wage_earners_pay_96_09__of_income_taxes.guest.html Unless your not liking the tax cuts on a personal level, those with families will be better off, and those couples without children will be better off. You and I will be better off. My self employed Father who lays carpet, tile, and hardwood for a living will be better off. The Democrats want to shave off taxes from the bottom 20%. Lets stretch it and say the bottom 40%. For the small effect that will have on the overall amount of taxes collected, where is the increase in social programs to get these wage earners a better education, a bigger slice of the income pie, and some real career progression? Seriously. GWB may be a complete idiot, but the tax situation is one thing he delivered on. He's taking care of 60%-80% of the tax payers and giving them a break. Before you say the rich are making out the best, in the movie as Good As It Gets, the best line of the movie to me was when Jack's character says, "Some have great stories, pretty stories that take place at lakes with boats and friends and noodle salad. Just no one in this car. But, a lot of people, that's their story. Good times, noodle salad. What makes it so hard is not that you had it bad, but that you're that pissed that so many others had it good." So who's really benefiting from the tax breaks? Most people are. I can sleep at night with that. Sunny | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 489 Registered: 12-2001 |
Randall- Same breath of your last line---there is no reason to bash someone for making a human mistake. Like I have said, I do not agree with some of his choices. And will I vote for him next year...Hmmm good question. Until then, I will support him and the descions he makes. I guess i could stand on the side and complain about every pety thing that he does, such as this starting post, but I chose not to look at the bad of a person. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 231 Registered: 2-2003 |
Mike, I didn't realize that it was a requirement for me to "seem American" to you. Now you sound like a bit of a jackass to me--the kind who wraps himself up in a flag and calls everyone else a traitor. Can you prove you aren't? As for taking potshots, when did I take any at America? Disagreeing with Bushisms and quoting a couple of his gaffes and questioning his judgement and disliking his policies is quite different from taking potshots at the country. Be careful, you are falling into the Ralph Koslin trap. You don't agree with what I say about Bush or American foreign policy, then a red mist descends over your limited brainpower, it starts getting a bit hazy, and you decide I must have done all sorts of things that I haven't. You figure ok, let's do the whole unpatriotic accusation thing. Slowly the red mist lifts and you feel you've really done yourself proud. Sorry, not falling for it. Actually, even Ralph hasn't gone that far. Why don't you leave the country? If you promise to never come back, I will pay for your ticket. But it will be a one way ticket, to a destination of my choice. OK? As for my leaving or staying, I am quite capable of making up my own mind. Living in a free country means that I get to make up my own mind, and express my own views. Just like you, as a matter of fact. If I ever need advice from a singing smartypants like you, I will wait respectfully until you are done singing that song. | ||
| Peter Cyr (Pete04222)
Junior Member Username: Pete04222 Post Number: 87 Registered: 6-2002 |
George W. Bush is the President of the United States of America. He is the person that WE elected to lead us and speak for us. It is an awesome responsibility and for every action or statement he makes there are people who criticize it and say what he should be doing. I doubt that the critics would do a better job of what it takes to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. If the people who criticize the President know so much then how come they aren't sitting in the Oval Office? I am proud to have George W. Bush as my President and I fully support him in doing what he feels is best for the nation. That is why I voted for him. | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 376 Registered: 12-2002 |
Amir, I was perfectly aware you may be a resident here - but you sure don't seem very American to me. It's one thing to disagree with the way thigns go, but it's completely another to be blatantly wrong about so many things and to take shots at your leaders and country, etc. Maybe if you're not happy here you could go somewhere else? That might solve your problem. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 229 Registered: 2-2003 |
Mike, I do live here and I do vote. Implied in that statement is that I am a US citizen. Also implied in that statement is that this is my country. Since your rant is based on misconceptions that the above statements should clear up, I don't think it's necessary to go any further...just don't forget to do a little joyful leap at the end of each line when you practice your song. | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 372 Registered: 12-2002 |
Amir, Do you even live in the USA and do you vote? If no to both, why do you even care? Why would you go on a predominantly USA car website and try to 'convince' them that their elected leader is a dolt? If the US populace is so dumb that we elect dolts, how could a country that is infinitely more enlightened and intelligent than us not be in the premier position in world affairs like we are? I never get how people love to slam us because we're lazy fat and stupid, but we are far superior in almost every metric to their country. So if Bush is a moron, what does that make your leader? Now of course you may be a US citizen - I don't know - but I guess you are not. Now the second thing I wanted to say, because I feel it is every bit as relevant as the original post, is to recive the Oscar Meyer Wiener song. (ahem) I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener That is what I wish that I could be 'Cause if I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener Everyone would be in love with me! Now I may have made a mistake in that recitation, and I'm sure if I ever become a highly visible political figure, everyone will point to any errors in this post and say how *obviously* I am not qualified to be whatever I am because back in October of '03 I was not able to accurately recite the wiener song. | ||
| Randall (Randall)
Member Username: Randall Post Number: 711 Registered: 1-2003 |
"He is around till next year and then you can decide on your own. Untill then, support him and the troops."-Rosso "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President." � --Theodore Roosevelt There is no reason to support a president that you think of as foolish or ignorant. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 488 Registered: 12-2001 |
Thanks KDS | ||
| Kds (Kds)
Member Username: Kds Post Number: 289 Registered: 5-2003 |
Well....I could always post the quotes by Babwa Stweiasand or any of the other leftists from Hollywood and elsewhere who have done the same thing as Amir alleges is reason enough to descredit someone from running the country. This whole thread is so juvenile and pointless I couldn't resist. | ||
| Anthony Griffin (Redjeeper)
Junior Member Username: Redjeeper Post Number: 88 Registered: 10-2002 |
Well if everyone is human and makes mistakes, why can't anyone forgive our past president Mr. Clinton. Afterall, he is only human too, but when you ask a Republican about him, the only thing they can dwell on is his affair, they never say anything bad about how well he ran the country or complain about all the money they made from the stock market during his time in office. I think that what is good for one group should be the same for the other. P.S. Getting off my soapbox, I follow you Amir. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 214 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rosso, the leader is always held to account. Others may be, too, but the buck stops with him. At least, that's how most people see it. Glad you support him 100% (in some form at least). I probably started at 80%. Voted for him. But didn't agree with his stance on abortion and women's rights. The election fiasco took that down to 60%. The war on Afghanistan put it back up to 65%. It would have been 80% again, but the alliance with Musharraf and double-standards all around were a bit hard to stomach. The back-room dealings with Saudi Arabia put it down to 50%. Pointless, expensive, deceitful invasion of Iraq - 25%. Cutting USAID programs, 20%. Tax cut for the wealthy and the lousy economy - 10%. See, I still like him. Most of this is fodder for other threads, this was honestly just two funny quotes. Yes, he was a boob. Yes, I think we can call our president one. Sorry if it offends--it really shouldn't. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 486 Registered: 12-2001 |
Amir- DO i agree with everything that this war as brought? NO. First to admit it. Do I blame one person? NO Do I stand behind my puter and complain? NO Do I stand behind my President? YES...100% Do you have any way of chaning what is happeing right now for the better? Not just for the left or the right, for the better of OUR nation??? _________ I mean, we can all slam anyone,for any reason, and no little harm is done by it, but why do you have such a hard on for pointing out the most common HUMAN errors??? BTW..my asthma is acting up, so I am saving my breath for that! | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 209 Registered: 2-2003 |
Yes, Rosso. His other mistakes. For those who consider them to be mistakes. And yes, that is a reference to decisions taken which many, many people do not agree with. Obviously, not you. You are right in that this thread is not about the other mistakes. I only mentioned them in the context of explaining the points of the original post. Points which you said you didn't get. I still get the feeling you're getting a little too worked up over a couple of funny quotes. No need to save your breath. Let it all out. Count to ten and exhale s-l-o-w-l-y. The sources for the quotes are in the first post, if you really want to take them to task. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 485 Registered: 12-2001 |
Wait a minute... His other Mistakes? I thought this whole post was about Sosa and Iran. His "other mistakes"...I Figure that you mean descions that you do not agree with. I have more to say, but then again, I will save my breath. Thanks for the left's point of view!! | ||
| DL (Darth550)
Member Username: Darth550 Post Number: 452 Registered: 7-2003 |
Amir, Tell THAT to the Rangers' fans! DL | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 208 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rosso, agreed that he is human, and that he will make mistakes like every other human. Agree also that these are laughable, trivial mistakes, although no Persian or Iraqi would agree that the second mistake is laughable or trivial. Some of his other mistakes, at least to those of us who consider them mistakes, are not laughing matters. That's all. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 484 Registered: 12-2001 |
I am calm. "To others, it is." I am still trying to make sense of your post. He is human, and will mistakes to the day he dies, as you, being perfect and not willing to forgive INNOCENT mistake will not i guess. | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 648 Registered: 11-2002 |
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah *yawn* Isn't this, like, the 900th Bush has been attacked by the left? Shattering. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 207 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rosso, it's not a big deal to you. To others, it is. Yes, everyone is human. But as the stake rise, so should the standards for deciding who gets to make the judgement calls. A moronic public official making poor or misguided judgments can have catastrophic consequences, as we know all too well. These quotes are indications that perhaps all is not well with the POTUS (I am beginning to like that term). Finally, please calm down. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 481 Registered: 12-2001 |
Amir, back to the simple point. He is Human. You are Human. You have little choices to make in life. He makes rather large choices that affect you, me and even people in other parts of the world. WTF does him not knowing 100% that he had traded Sosa have to do with him as a Prez? AS well, imagine if he had just come out of a meeting where they had talked about the price of tea in Iran and then some asked him about the war. MAYBE Something else was on his mind at the time, like a cup of tea, and he stated Iran. BIG FUKING DEAL. One leg at a time. Just like you and me. Get a new agenda. He is around till next year and then you can decide on your own. Untill then, support him and the troops. | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 205 Registered: 2-2003 |
2 points: 1. People who tend to make mistakes should not be given reponsibilities where the same types of mistakes can lead to serious consequences. 2. His ignorance on world matters is a national embarrassment, and reflects poorly on Americans and America's educational standards and American statemanship. Sorry, didn't realize some people would not get the point. | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 479 Registered: 12-2001 |
Damn--- Proof that he is Human...WOW...life changing. Point please? | ||
| Telson (Pitbull_trader)
Junior Member Username: Pitbull_trader Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2003 |
Nice one ;-) | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 199 Registered: 2-2003 |
"I made a signinficant contribution to the Cubs, as you might recall...Sammy Sosa. I'll take great delight when they win." ------------------------- George Bush, on the Texas Rangers' trading of Sammy Sosa to the Cubs, which never actually happened. He was traded by the Rangers to the White Sox. George Bush was a managing partner of the Texas Rangers at the time of the trade. Source: Newsweek (Perspectives) And since he's taken over managing the country... "We are making excellent progress in our war against Iran." ------------------------- George Bush on national television while answering questions on the invasion of Iraq. He never caught the error or corrected himself. Source: ABC News. |