| Author | Message | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 394 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is Tigger even a true tiger?? (LMAO) | ||
| PeterS (Peters)
Intermediate Member Username: Peters Post Number: 1597 Registered: 1-2003 |
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| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1547 Registered: 1-2002 |
horsefly: is it true that the Honda "tigger" faces considerable depreciation v. the Ferrari "tigger"? I've heard market forecasts equating one Honda "tigger" fur to be worth pennies on the dollar v. it's Ferrari "tigger" counterpart; care to comment? Regards, A nervous "tigger" investor/collector. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1540 Registered: 5-2002 |
Let's not forget our automotive heritage: our long forgotten friend, the Esso Tiger.  (Don't know why he's pouring a quart of 30 weight into some guy's radiator, but he sure looks happy about it. Must be an old Porsche!) | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1544 Registered: 1-2002 |
Wayne: have you got the s/n of the "tigger" used in said maulling? Also, any word on the books and toolkit of said mauller? I've got a considerably interested vintage "tigger" collector, of sizable wealth, who'd much appreciate your expert input. Hubert. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 416 Registered: 4-2002 |
Wayne, I cannot believe how knowlegable you are. Keeping track of all these cars as well as cartoon characters. Keep up the good work! | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 830 Registered: 3-2002 |
When Sigfreid was on Larry King the other day he said that the tiger actually meant no harm to Roy. In fact, Sigfreid said that the tiger was actually trying to PROTECT Roy. Apparently Roy had slipped on the stage right in front of the tiger. The tiger's natural reaction was to try to carry Roy away to safety. Much like a mother tiger would do to a cub. And just like "parent" tigers often grab their cubs by the necks, the animal grabbed Roy by the neck and walked off stage back to the holding area. Too bad humans are more fragile than those cubs. | ||
| Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2696 Registered: 8-2002 |
David, you've got the wrong culprit! It's not Tony the Tiger, it's Tigger. Tony:  Tigger:  | ||
| David Mcguire (Matkat)
Junior Member Username: Matkat Post Number: 90 Registered: 3-2003 |
The "tony the tiger" is hilarious. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 996 Registered: 1-2003 |
cute cartoon. | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 943 Registered: 3-2003 |
djmonk, that might be true for wild animals in close proximity to man (although it's still not the animals' fault). In India, elephants, tigers and lions that attack humans are called maneaters and usually hunted down and killed for this "reason." The situations here are different. These attacks happen in wildlife refuges or inside animal cages or during shows featuring animals. The animal is there because of man, and is presented/tempted with the opportunity to do what comes naturally, again because of man. It's even worse in the case of "pet" tigers attacking people in their own yards or apartments, or when being forced to perform mindless tricks in circuses or shows. Tragically, it's someone else besides the owner that usually gets killed or mauled. If they snap and prove themselves to be the wild animals that they are, only at the prodding of humans in the first place, why kill them in cold blood after they have been subdued and restrained? It's just so wrong. | ||
| djmonk (Davem)
Member Username: Davem Post Number: 444 Registered: 1-2002 |
Once a wild animal kills a human, its thought that its more likely to do so again. Hence they are killed. Maybe we are tasty!? | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 929 Registered: 10-2001 |
Same thing happened in New York Apartment case. The guy that got his leg bitten. Just reported that his small house cat tried to follow him into the Tiger's apartment and when the tiger went for it. He tried to get between the two of them. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 928 Registered: 10-2001 |
WOW! FOX news reported that a woman wearing "BIG HAIR" caused the tiger to freak out. The tiger saw the large Hair and went into attack mode, Roy jumped in to break the tigers attack launch sequence. And the rest is history. 30,000 shows brought down by a lady that looked like she had a rabit on her head. That's incredable. At least it makes sences now. That lady must feel like crap. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Intermediate Member Username: Psk Post Number: 1036 Registered: 11-2002 |
Yes what did the Tigers do wrong. The guy was the idiot ... should shoot him. Same stupid thing happens in Australia when somebody gets attacked by a Shark ... they go and kill a few. Why not just get out of the f**ken water ... after all that is the Shark's home not ours, we are just playing there. Humans are taking over everything, and even when we play with the animals ... if it does not go to OUR plan we kill them!!!!.. We should be ashamed of ourselves. I wish the Tigers had killed the d**khead! ... they are not entertainment. Pete | ||
| Amir (Amir)
Junior Member Username: Amir Post Number: 230 Registered: 2-2003 |
Allan, Horsefly, Thomas...hilarious!!!!! | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1533 Registered: 5-2002 |
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| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 934 Registered: 3-2003 |
Wow, I just read that grizzly story. Darwin being proved right. Why the state troopers shot them I will never understand. A few years ago, there was a similar story with a polar bear at the Central Park zoo who made dinner out of some kid. The kid and his friends used to scale the fence, sneak into the park after hours, and play hide and seek in the dangerous animals' cages. One night he got too close. Cops killed the polar bear later. Sad though the kid's death was, why kill the bear? | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 932 Registered: 3-2003 |
Yeah, my wife's been pretty upset about a couple of grizzlies that were shot after they killed some guy in Alaska...in her words, "That's what grizzlies do if you get too close! Why shoot them?" Guess I should read the story! | ||
| Gregory (Prugna_328)
Junior Member Username: Prugna_328 Post Number: 64 Registered: 9-2003 |
This was long overdue. I have been to the Secret Garden and they hand out these "wands" that you hold to your ear and listen to stories about the animals. At one of the tigerson display Roy tells a story where one of the tigers jumped on top of him and he knew he was in real danger.He said he knew he was about to get bit, so he bit the tiger on the nose and the tiger jumped off of him and walked away. Long overdue. | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1008 Registered: 4-2003 |
Actually I was thinking about posting that pic until I saw Allan had already. So the only thing I have to ad at this point would be a caption... "Because eating gay Germans is what Tiggers do best..." I could probably dig up some good screen shots from The Ghost and The Darkness to make some good photochops. Might be a little bit gory for Fchat though. The interesting animal story of the week isn't S&R in my opinion. That California wacko who got eaten by bears in Alaska has a lot more potential in my opinion. Here is a link. That story doesn't go into all the detail but the guy was an absolute moron. Anybody who treats bears with such disregard deserves to be eaten. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1530 Registered: 5-2002 |
I made this one up the other day and it went over real big here at work. Question: What's the difference between a white tiger's dinner and a hound dog's dinner? Answer: Two hundred pounds of Ole Roy. | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 528 Registered: 7-2003 |
This result of a goose attack is archival evidence there may be a god.  | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1553 Registered: 9-2002 |
Faisal: when you find the show that does, let me know. The gas card alone will make me happy!  --Dan | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 930 Registered: 3-2003 |
Wow, interesting. I actually always thought about it from an entertainment perspective, not one of danger, and since it didn't sound too entertaining after about 10 minutes (all blacked out stuff, glitzy costumes, watch this disappear, more theatrics, watch that disappear, tigers, lions, swords, etc.) I never went. Now that I am thinking there's a possibility of watching someone get mauled, it doesn't really cause me to get any more excited. Incidentally, why do magicians make stuff disappear? Why can't they make stuff appear? Say, a Ferrari for each member of the audience? "And now, ladies and gentlemen, for our grand finale, prepaid gas cards will automatically appear in your wallets and purses!!! Have a great night..." Thunderous, rolling waves of applause from everyone else as I sprint out to start my new car... | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 662 Registered: 11-2002 |
But Faisal, the magic behind the S&R show is the DANGER involved. If they performed the tricks with donkeys, or house cats, or sloths, it wouldn't be fun. The whole draw to the show is the fact that they are interracting with TOTALLY DANGEROUS AND KILLER ANIMALS! People like to watch because it reinforces their thoughts about man v nature: we dominate the planet. We go there to see the struggle between human and animal, and we want to see human triumph. But if the human ALWAYS triumphs, the perceived danger becomes nil. Thus, we are always hoping for a train wreck; we want the struggle to exist, because without the struggle, we are no longer a dominating force. Without the struggle, we're like goldfish in an aquarium. Now, I don't think that anyone WANTS to see a tiger eat a human, but I'll bet that no one went to these shows because they thought S&R were great performers: they went for the interraction between S&R and the TIGERS. | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 929 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hmmm, I would enjoy watching the unexpected if it didn't bring harm or suffering. Certainly we all have a vicarious side. But I don't think I would want to see tigers eating a human. I can't imagine secretly hoping for that...it is slightly different than hoping it's your number when you buy a lottery ticket. I don't know, I guess it depends on the situation. But tigers eating humans...I don't think so. Incidentally, there is a video clip on the web of a British tourist getting killed by a lion while on an African safari. It was filmed by his wife. You can hear the daughter's screams. If you are interested, I am sure you will be able to find it online. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 923 Registered: 3-2002 |
Mark: don't you have some pics to post ? | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 660 Registered: 11-2002 |
You know, this is almost a dream come true. Before you rail me, hear me out. We all go to the zoo and watch animals in hopes of seeing them do the stuff we see on TV. Often, the zoo ends up being a toturous time, watching animals do nothing but snooze. What we WANT to see is the animals eat. And what would be even better is to watch them eat and then get into a fight over their food. Another bonus is to watch animals pork each other. Watching them sleep is often REALLY REALLY boring. Now, when S&R do their show, yeah the illusions are cool, and yeah the cats are cool, but deep down, what we all want to see is the animals get pissed and maul each other or S&R. Art, I'm sure you'll say that your cultured and mature brain doesn't want to see this, but we all know the truth. We love that kind of stuff! Over tens of thousands of shows, nothing has happened, yet I'll bet that each time a ticket is purchased, the consumer is thinking "Maybe, just maybe, a lion will go berserk." This event can be equated to seeing Brittany Spears lose her clothes on stage or something like that; one of those things that you KNOW isn't going to happen, but would be TOTALLY COOL if it did. I'll bet, whoever was video taping this event, was like " YEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!" Or maybe it's just my uncivilized brain at work. Who knows? | ||
| Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Member Username: Aawil Post Number: 342 Registered: 8-2002 |
In all honesty you can't just erase thousands of years of instinct. The law of averages was bound to catch up with them eventually. | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 928 Registered: 3-2003 |
Is anyone else surprised that this didn't happen sooner? I have caught snippets of their show on TV, and they often looked like they were locked in a battle of wills with the cats. My wife and I are very interested in big cat preservation. When we were in Vegas, we went to see the tigers at the Mirage and they didn't even look tame. Fair enough, except in the shows, these cats are made to perform with nothing between them and the audience. We watched from behind the glass as two keepers were playfully swatted down into the water by a really big tiger. They could only get up after several other keepers rushed in to help. There was also a small zoo in the Mirage called the Secret Garden, and there was a young lion there that fixated upon every small child that stopped in front of the enclosure. He would not break his baleful stare--several parents felt uncomfortable enough to hustle their kids away. It was really creepy. The keepers happily told us that it was the "instinctive response for stalking prey" but we shouldn't worry because he never did that with adults. We asked if the lion was going to be part of the show in the future...the answer was a reassuring yes, but only after he was fully grown! Around the corner was a huge dolphin "research" center that was also part of this Secret Garden. All the dolphins were being trained to do tricks and entertain people. We weren't fooled by the tame lions or by the "research" moniker on the dolphin theater. It might be entertaining, and the cats might have gotten to roam about in a $10 million Jungle Palace, but it was pure animal exploitation. Siegfried and Roy had a long and very lucrative run at it. | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 927 Registered: 3-2003 |
Yes, I read that video does exist. I am sure it will turn up on the web sooner or later. I did like Allan's video, though! | ||
| Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Member Username: Aawil Post Number: 339 Registered: 8-2002 |
I wonder if there are any real pics or video of it? It would be interesting to see. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 1352 Registered: 9-2001 |
LMAO!!!  Great Find! I'm sure there's even more like that out on the net. | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 526 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hahahahahahaha | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 911 Registered: 3-2002 |
Allan that is so kold. Kold and funny !! | ||
| Anthony Griffin (Redjeeper)
Junior Member Username: Redjeeper Post Number: 89 Registered: 10-2002 |
That is just wrong on so many levels, but it sure did make me smile. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1525 Registered: 9-2002 |
Should've been Tony the Tiger. 'Frosted Fools - They're grrrrrrrrrrrreat!' --Dan | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1224 Registered: 6-2002 |
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