| Author | Message | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 992 Registered: 10-2001 |
The one thing I like about Honda is they do read this stuff on f-chat and nsxprime, and are putting a lot of weight to what the car buyers are saying. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7363 Registered: 8-2002 |
LMAO...! | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 991 Registered: 10-2001 |
I just heard that Honda has pulled this new car and is going to do something even more supercar looking for 2005. They want to impress guys like DES. the rumor goes that Honda thinks this design is good but will not be a benchmark car like they want. I'd be happy with the HSC, hope if they change it, it gets even more "80's exotic looking". Can't stand all the retro stuff coming out of car designers now-a-days. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7361 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mark, the NSX is an awesome car, i love it... i'd take one in a heartbeat... But it just doesn't compare with the Enzo - at least not to me... However, whenever you're in NYC, let me know, we'll go "borrow" some NSXes from a dealership and race them around 'til we get arrested...  | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 970 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sorry to hear that Des you...if anyone, certainly know your ENZO's I was hoping, I finaly found a way to get both of us working-stiffs into Enzo's for 1/10th the price. That way when I move to New York City next year... we can take them out and race each other. Check back the first time some one bolts an ENZO kit on one of these puppies. Its going to be fun for pennies on the dollar. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7296 Registered: 8-2002 |
i actually DON'T like it the more i look at it, how's THAT for Ferrari favortism...?!? It's got a nice look to it, but it's too similar to the Enzo, just not similar enough, all at the same time, if you know what i mean... It's almost like some of the lines are round when they should be wedged and some are wedged when they should be rounded... | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 966 Registered: 10-2001 |
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| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 965 Registered: 10-2001 |
Just like the ENZO, this car's lines look best in Black.  | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
Junior Member Username: Challenge Post Number: 218 Registered: 9-2002 |
Mark L. - I'm on Prime frequently and I hope the HSC/NSX kicks butt. I will feel no more offended if a superior successor comes out than a 355 owner when the 360 was introduced. "Bargain basement" prices can be had with anything. I went with a 95 because I had to have a removable top and I got 90% of the benefits/performance/looks of a new one at about half the price. | ||
| ryan (Ferrari_kid)
New member Username: Ferrari_kid Post Number: 46 Registered: 7-2003 |
ever notice how the next generation of any japanese car goes through revolution rather than evolution? maybe that's why a "vintage" japanese car doesn't have the same pinash of a porsche, ferrari, lambo, etc. i'd like to see performance numbers off the new car though, hopefully they stick an engine in that puts out some real power. | ||
| -- (Netviper)
New member Username: Netviper Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2001 |
Most NSX owners love this car, however, some of us are concerned about the HP. So far they have mentioned a 3.0L, 3.2L and a 3.5L engine. I guess nobody really knows. All have quoted around 300HP which IMO is a major let down. This car needs a 400HP V6 to truly compete even if it is 2800lbs. I guess we shall see. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Intermediate Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 1025 Registered: 2-2003 |
Mark, the poll is one thing, browse the actual thread and there are more people that are pro-HSC, maybe not buyers and happy with what they have, but its positive almost resoundingly. Once the numbers come out, those in the happy with what they have camp will pitch their "timeless classic" design if they can afford it. | ||
| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
Junior Member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2002 |
I think the similar styling cues (to the Enzo and 360) are as much a result of similar aerodynamic goals as they are a tribute to Ferrari's design. And there's certainly no shame in taking inspiration from Ferrari design (who better?) As for the NSX Prime poll, I think a number of the current NSX owners who don't like it are just a bit disgruntled because they were able to buy into NSX ownership at a bargain basement price and now the illusion is about to end. Remember, the NSX had VERY few styling changes from 91-01. In recent years, a LOT of those 91-93 models have changed hands for bargain basement prices and people have gotten the appearance of driving a $90k car for the price of a new Camry. It's of course possible to just not like the design, but the split on the NSX forum is suspicious given that the HSC concept is getting overwhelmingly positive feedback nearly everywhere else. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7169 Registered: 8-2002 |
It looks nice... It's certainly no Enzo, though... | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 956 Registered: 10-2001 |
I am interested in this car because they might do what we wish Ferrari would do with a 360 replacement... Give us a lighter car! HP wars are silly. I'd be more interested in a "weight war". A 12 with huge HP and the weight that comes with it takes away from the feel that I want. This is were the Murcielago fails. NSX has always put their 6 against Ferrari 8's and they did a good job NSX/348 back in 1991. 450 hp with less weight then all the other exotics would be a fun car. | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 149 Registered: 8-2003 |
Honda needs to refine their image and make this car "mean." Rip snorting, loud, low-end pull off-the-line MEAN. The car looks good, but I have this sense (based on Honda brand character) it will have a whizzy little engine that needs 14,000RPM to hit 320hp... I really hope it sounds somewhat like a Tubi-ed 360 - a ferocious howl vs. typical Japanese sterility. When it comes to this type of car, to hell with practicality, I want passion. Why don't the Japanese make a V12? That's probably a whole other story, but they seem to engineer other engines well. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 955 Registered: 10-2001 |
Ryan that's funny But Enzo kits would be so easy. A custom hood with two big air scoops, and new rear fenders with big square air scoops. We might see the bolt-on kit out before the car hits the showrooms. | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2003 |
Mark - you forgot lower side skirts, a splitter on the front lip and a huge carbon fiber wing. Maybe neon lights underneath if you can :-). And a HONDA POWERED decal on the windshield. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 954 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sunny, I agree. Hardcore guys are fun when any new car comes out. Both camps won't like it. I just like the way Honda plays it's cards. Just like Ford and Lambo, they go after Ferrari. But Damn! here they but it so close between the ENZO and 360. Smart Marketing especially since the ENZO created so much demand. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Intermediate Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 1023 Registered: 2-2003 |
Some NSX hardcore guys don't like it either. The real test will be when performance figures are released and how well it can be tuned aftermarket. Poll: http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24314 General chat, 200+ posts long so far: http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24248 | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 953 Registered: 10-2001 |
I think its a tad bit less sleek then an Enzo, but a bit more sleek then a 360. Honda stick's it right between the two models and then sit back and laughs as Ferrari hardcore guys talk about how bad it looks. LOL  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1289 Registered: 6-2002 |
I showed my wife the pictures, and she wants to trade the 355 Spider. Even i, the Ferrari lover that we all know and love, am slightly hesitant about that one. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 952 Registered: 10-2001 |
Tom, I'd hate it too, if I just bought an Enzo for $1.2 million  | ||
| Tom RM (Tgitom)
Junior Member Username: Tgitom Post Number: 197 Registered: 8-2002 |
this car is down right nasty!!!! and not in a good way... horrible | ||
| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
Junior Member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 111 Registered: 4-2002 |
If the final evolves nicely from that and comes with 420hp I'll certainly be trading my 03 in 06. Not sure if Honda will win new converts (I'd like to think they will!), but this should definitely make nearly all of us current NSX fans happy! | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 951 Registered: 10-2001 |
Photo Shop bait  | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2003 |
I like it. | ||
| Evan Jones (Jonesn)
Junior Member Username: Jonesn Post Number: 138 Registered: 8-2002 |
How can that F-22 pilot focus when he has 4 Atari games in front of him? I'd get confused. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Intermediate Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 1016 Registered: 2-2003 |
Woohoo! I like the front and side, the rear is different, but different in an exotic sharp line way. Flat like a 'vette and won't be everyone's cup of tea. Will see if it grows on me as more picture are released and how often I go back to these and stare Lighter, lots of downforce, a 3.5L that can take some boost, and its going to kick some serious you know what!! Lets hope that it has the same cutting edge balance and refinement that made the NSX famous. Maybe I won't be buying an NSX soon and saving for this! I don't know what the "next" car will be yet.. this is a new possibility. Sunny | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 950 Registered: 10-2001 |
Maybe the F-22 guy pushed the wrong button  | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1061 Registered: 4-2003 |
That's a great pic of the F-15 at Evergreen Aviation in McMinnville, OR. Here B an F-16  Let's hope the new NSX doesn't handle like the F-22. A couple weeks ago one went out of control and nearly went splat after attempting a basic dogfight maneuver. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 949 Registered: 10-2001 |
This happens every time we change fighter planes. Honda was very interested in the F-16 Fighter when they came up with the dome shape of the NSX. Now if you look at our new F22 Raptor... you can't help buy notice some design sharing.   | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3353 Registered: 2-2001 |
the profile is not too bad, the front is a little too heavy in the front bumper side area, the rear is NASTY the interior is very nice | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1092 Registered: 9-2002 |
The tail is horrid comparted to the original NSXs...Why the loss of the integrated wing with integrated light? The interior is fugly...the old one had stitched leather covering everything....this has some werid looking stuff. Put a updated version of the old tail and im happy. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 948 Registered: 10-2001 |
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| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 947 Registered: 10-2001 |
New doors  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1282 Registered: 6-2002 |
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| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1280 Registered: 6-2002 |
Another pic.  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1279 Registered: 6-2002 |
Looks like some sort of a rear wing would look good on it also, F50 style. Lets see, if it has 420hp naturally aspirated, throw on a nice twin turbo kit...... | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1057 Registered: 4-2003 |
I'm not very good at turning silver to red and wasn't entirely sure what to do about the headlight area but FWIW here it is.  | ||
| -- (Netviper)
New member Username: Netviper Post Number: 38 Registered: 11-2001 |
I have to allan for once (don't hate me), but this car needs at least 400HP. It looks damn good. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 946 Registered: 10-2001 |
Hey DES.... you said you wanted a ENZO This car will come out at $120k but 5 years after it will be $50k because it doesn't have Ferrari collector value, but will probably have 8/10th Enzo preformance, zero maintance cost, and can be picked up for less then a brake-pad service on an ENZO. I was always Mad that Ferrari didn't build enough ENZO's, thanks Honda for fixing the problem (looks like Honda cleaned it up a bit too) | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 945 Registered: 10-2001 |
MarkPDX- can you photo shop the car's color to red ? I'd like the side-by-side with the Enzo if they're the same color, might even look closer? | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 551 Registered: 4-2003 |
What ever happened to attractive rear ends? When I look at the rear end of my car, I get weak in the knees. When I look at the rear end of this car, it makes me want to look at my car again. | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 573 Registered: 7-2003 |
 Made it myself - I'll be anonymously famous! | ||
| Russ Turner (Snj5)
Member Username: Snj5 Post Number: 599 Registered: 2-2003 |
That is one really good looking car - perhaps the best Japanese car I have ever seen. I've never cared much for the original NSX styling, but this new one is striking. And you know it's gotta be technically brilliant. | ||
| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 126 Registered: 10-2001 |
if the s2k can pull 120 hp per liter- 2L / 240 hp - and that was 4 yrs ago using the same formula a 3.5 would put out 420 hp why couldn;t they pull it off 9k redline- super scrumptuous! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1278 Registered: 6-2002 |
I would be disappointed if it had any less than 400hp. | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 570 Registered: 7-2003 |
Honda HSC Concept foreshadows '05 NSX | ||
| 911 Fan (911fan)
Junior Member Username: 911fan Post Number: 83 Registered: 5-2003 |
Very nice! So when is the next gen NSX expected - 06? | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1054 Registered: 4-2003 |
If you put two pics side by side they go together without any gap. I just split the pics so they are within the size limit of 640x640 and put the appropriate halves next to each other. | ||
| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2001 |
hey mark how'd you do that- i dl'd the same pics and it told me i exceeded the bandwith | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1053 Registered: 4-2003 |
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| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2001 |
wow - 2 people find it attractive - even the discerning eye of allan lambo regarding your question on the engine- looks like they will use the 3.5 v6 that they currently have in the 3.5 RL most likely NA- does honda ever turbo charge street cars? i'm guessing if they could squeeze 290 out of a 3.2 - using technology thats 6 or 7 years old they'll be able to get high 300's out of this one also expect aluminum and a low weight the big surprise would be a hybrid electric motor upfront like the dualnote- who knows- the last nsx had a few firsts - including valve timing and aluminum construction | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 214 Registered: 9-2003 |
Here is a pic of the back :  | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 213 Registered: 9-2003 |
Definitely a nice looking car. I like it. :-) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1277 Registered: 6-2002 |
Wow, looks great. Sort of Enzo-ish. Now if it came with a twin turbo v6 or v8, i'm in! | ||
| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 123 Registered: 10-2001 |
lol - click on the link - i tried posting bandwith for posting is pretty limmited | ||
| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 122 Registered: 10-2001 |
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e28042e2ca297b8c1a0080a6a1219e12&threadid=24248 | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 568 Registered: 7-2003 |
Apparently it is using the latest in stealth technology. | ||
| david charles (Supraboytt)
Junior Member Username: Supraboytt Post Number: 121 Registered: 10-2001 |
attached are pics of the what I'm betting is going to be the styling basis for the next gen nsx- the car is just a concept at the moment its called the hcs what do all yall tifosi think?- i know most of you thought the last nsx lacked sexiness and soul- what are your thoughts on this one i'm not an nsx owner or diehard japanese car fan by any means- but i think this car looks stunning very japanese- but also very sexy- especially from the back i love the razor sharp styling and simply business look of the interior- gotta love the blue aluminum accents too just curious to hear your comments DC |