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Alex Hancock (Alexhancock)
New member
Username: Alexhancock
Post Number: 26
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:31 am: | |
I've owned my 750cc F4S from new and will never sell it. Yes, a 750cc GSXR is quicker but no where near as special. The design and engineering detail is amazing and if I was single I'd keep it inside next to the TV. Most modern bikes are far better than their riders but the MV makes you feel wonderful. I'm probably going to sell one of my other bikes to make room for an MV Brutale next Spring and it'd be nice to add a 1000cc F4 as well. Japanese bikes will come and go but MVs are keepers. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2808
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:56 pm: | |
Ralph:
It used to be that Italian and Japanese horses were very small. Lately the Japanese horses have been grown back to full size. The Italians have yet to ensure that their horses are indeed full size, at least in the motorcycle industry. Both Aprilla and Ducati claim as much HP for their twins as the GSXR, but neither accelerates as well, despite their lower weight. Having said that, the Duke still handles the best of all of the large displacement bikes, Suzuki included.
Art |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 1011
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:47 am: | |
Ryan thanks for the information on the comparison.
I had a yellow 01 748 Ducati Mono. I never liked
the fact that the bike is narrow. The bike ran
out of breath at around 140/145. I understand
that is the smaller twin.
I assume the MV is wider in the middle. I like
the feel of a wider bike.
Art: I read that the MV 1000cc motor was supposed
to put out more power than the GIXXer. Of course
Italians always have correct horsepower dyno readings.
Hey I love Suzuki also !! Your points are valid
about value for the money. Remember though I am
a Lamborghini owner, and am only interested in rideing/driveing style. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2806
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:50 am: | |
No way that this gives a GSXR 1000 a run for the money. Not an 03 GSXR, and certainly not an 04, which is a little lighter, and has a little more power.
However, the handling of the GSXR, while more than adequate for street riding, isn't as good as the Duck or the MV. I'd buy the GSXR for 1/3 the money, put another 2k into the suspension (Olin interiors for the forks, Penske on the rear), and change its graphics. You'd have a faster, better handling bike, and with the crap gone from the exterior, perhaps a better looking bike also. I'd wait for the 04 model, however.
Art |
Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
Junior Member
Username: Sherpa23
Post Number: 224
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:29 am: | |
Ralph,
I have seen the 1000 but I have not ridden it. I have spent a siginificant amount of time on the F4s and I can give you a run down:
Compared to my 998, it's better street bike but not as much of a beast. It's a little better position (a little tighter which is more comfy) and feel of the controls are easier. The shifter is crisp but easy and the brakes and throtle feel light but solid. It is definitely not as powerful as the 998 (doesn't have that jump when you open the throttle - 2 vs 4 cyl.) and the brakes don't feel as strong. Handling is close but not quite as good. The build quality is superb. The sound with the Senna exhaust is killer. Overall, if you are you going to use this for the street, I would say that it is the best bike you can buy. If you are going to the track, go with the 998, any variation. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 1009
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:00 am: | |
Dave: there are two authorized dealers in Texas.
Sometimes they are going to tell you a little
story to try and switch you to what is available.
The 750 is the only bike now available. I heard
the 1000 is in the same frame. That sounds like
a good combination.
BrentC 35K for a bike ? I want the garden variety bike that costs 18 +.
It is difficult to obtain reliable information about the MV bikes. Typical Italian production stories. Sit and wait. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 3188
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 7:59 am: | |
I believe that there is a dealer in San Antonio, on I-10 just west of loop 1610. |
S. Brent Cardani (Brentc)
Junior Member
Username: Brentc
Post Number: 89
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 7:19 am: | |
Also, heard that Eddie Irvine got one when he was a Scuderia driver. |
S. Brent Cardani (Brentc)
Junior Member
Username: Brentc
Post Number: 88
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 7:19 am: | |
Ralph,
Cauley Ferrari outside of Detroit has one on their showroom floor. Don't know if it's actually for sale or just a display. If you want, I will find out, though. My recollection is when it came out it was a $35,000 bike. |
James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member
Username: Aventino
Post Number: 144
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 4:33 am: | |
I think there's about 4 different versions including a Senna, for that man. Had a nosey at them when I was living in Rome. Very expensive and more of a competitor for the Ducati IMHO. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 1003
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:59 pm: | |
Greetings:
There is no authorized dealer here in Houston.
Does anyone have any information on price and
availablity of this bike ? I hear it "may" give
Art's GSXR-1000 a good run for its money.
Of course the GSXR is at the top of its class.
If this bike is half as good as they say it is ? !!! |