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ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ross
Post Number: 1149
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 5:06 am: | |
i think you have to evaluate circuits in the interest factor.
as i have said in other threads, f1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, and the cars are and should be the best technological pieces of engineering on four wheels. so they should also be able to race anywhere. this means stop 'blanding' circuits like imola, and hockenheim, bring back the old nurburgring, stop okaying every stupid no-passing track in remote parts of the world just because they have money. make the tracks really difficult (and somewhat dangerous).
or, admit that technology has exceeded its usefulness in the car world (i don't agree but...), and return to a slightly lesser 'formula' like champ cars, and seriously reduce the dependence on aero aids that fail in the 'bad' air behind another car. in other words, you can have all the aero aids you want, as long as the cars don't get overly flustered when trying to pass. then force them to run on street type tires (maybe that way, we'll accelerate the tech benefits to 'our' roads as well).
just some thoughts.... |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 408
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 11:40 am: | |
>>>Aside from that I would liberate F1 technical specs as much as possible. Define the max dimensions of the car, define some safety standards and let the teams do the rest. Imagine!
I'm a bit "double" on that one...
Yes, liberating it would be good to see really creative engineering solutions but it also means, even more than now, that the biggest budget will build the best cars...
Mmmm....
Jack |
Warren Dodge (Spiderman)
New member
Username: Spiderman
Post Number: 38
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:41 am: | |
Take the wings off of the cars and get them back to when the cars slid through the turns under power. Put the shifters back in as well. The quality of racing has declined over the years as a result of the technology. Let the engineers figure out how to build a better car that exploits driving talent. Without all of the aids and expensive aero packages, the field would tighten up. |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 851
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 9:55 am: | |
Although obviously highly controversial, my favourite rule would be to form the grid in reverse order of the WC points. It would take the fun out of qualifying (not needed anymore), but sure would make for some interesting races. Could be dangerous though as the backmarkers would have to learn the ropes of starting a GP field first, but still.
Aside from that I would liberate F1 technical specs as much as possible. Define the max dimensions of the car, define some safety standards and let the teams do the rest. Imagine! |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 402
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 4:52 am: | |
Fred,
>>>It would be cool to see the cars trying to charge through the pack.
Exactly. It will give a whole lot more "action" on the track.
Remember Benoldi who kept Cubehead... uh... Coulthard behind him on Monaco for a full 44 laps? Everybody talked about it for days. Now all the hotshots can go through the field (when they are lapping the slower ones) because they have the blue flags on their side. In this system they will have to RACE for it!
Jack,
>>>I think they need to take a slight step backwards. Slick tires, steel rotors and eliminate/minimize wings.
I'm not fully on board with that.
I usually disagree with Ron Dennis except on this one.
F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport with the highest level of technology and I feel that it should remain that way.
Only....
It has reached such a level that budgets have the biggest impact. Only the top $$$ teams can afford a "all titanium car" if you get what I mean with that.
Going back to no aerodynamic aids etc will spark new engineering challenges which is good of course.
On the other hand, how will it increase the level of exiting action on track? I don't really see that happen.
Jack |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member
Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 743
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:40 pm: | |
Jack, I don't like the idea of "artificially" manipulating the racing by jumbling up the order. It's a little like the post-qualifying impound they do now. I think they need to take a slight step backwards. Slick tires, steel rotors and eliminate/minimize wings. |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member
Username: Fred
Post Number: 704
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | |
Ok, I see what you are saying. With 20 point up for grabs the top teams could really stretch it out though. It would be cool to see the cars trying to charge through the pack. |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 400
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
Hi Fred,
what I meant is that you basically have "two races"...
One = quali = 1 lap and 10 points for the fastest etc.
Two = normal race but start in reverse order of quali and 10 points for the winner etc.
That would give the incentive NOT to sandbag quali as you can get as many points there as that you can get in the race.
I think that every one would go flat out on both events.
Jack |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member
Username: Fred
Post Number: 703
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 9:50 pm: | |
If qualifying were reversed with the fastest starting in the back what would keep everyone from sandbagging it to start up front. Everyone would be trying to go slower then the guy before. What fun would that be to watch. As I reread your post maybe I see what you are saying. You would have the fastest qualifyer get 10 points but start in the back? The 10 points being the reward for fastest lap rather then P1? |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 395
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 9:17 pm: | |
At the end of last season, I ran a poll on one of our websites, asking "the public" to ventilate their opinion of how F1 could be "spiced up" after such a dull season.
This is now of course completely obsolete but nevertheless...
What amazed me most is that most people opted for "reintroduction of slick tires" to make the racing more exiting while I though that that would make the differences even larger or at least maintain the gap between the top teams/drivers and the sub-top.
Mu favorite one is still to allocate equal points to qualifying as to the race results but reverse the qualifying order for the race.
i.e. The fastest qualifyer starts at the back of the pack for the race etc.
I think that that would create some exiting situations especially since the slower ones won't get blue-flagged to make way but have the right to defend their line & position...
Your opinions & suggestions?
Jack
P.S. My "favorite (as outlined above) scored lowest in the poll so I seem to be on my own... again... ;-)
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