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bob snow (Resnow)
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 6:03 am:   

There are liquor stores and open bars in Bahrain, a more enlightened country than some others.
rick ramage (720)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 7:44 pm:   

i see your point...kind of. but then would't every country in the world have to build a car and/or engine and also supply drivers?
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2063
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 2:18 pm:   

Well, it is a WORLD Championship after all, not a European or American one. So I do appreciate the fact, that they go really abroad to Asia, the Middle East etc.

I don't like Hungaroring, but at least it is (so far) the only track in the former East Europe. I don't like Interlagos either, but it is the one and only South American race (I wish we had Argentina and Mexico back).

F1 would loose a lot of its cachet if it were European only. Kinda like the European soccer championship vs the Global one. Who cares if the champion eventually is European, as long as they have driven on all continents.

So don't feel bad towards your US friend, it is time for them to realize that WORLD does not equal US. There is more out there, besides Canada and Mexico.

For exactly the same reasons I applaud CART for going to Germany and England (and Japan and Mexico). And for the same reason I have a big issue with NFL and Baseball calling themselves World Champions. That is as if the Swiss would call themselves World Champions of Yodeling.
:-)
rick ramage (720)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   

most of my american friends already glaze over when i start talking about the hungarian GP or the austrian GP, etc. now that F1 will soon be racing in bahrain or maybe even turkey or iran or perhaps even bagdad, the popularity of F1 here in the US will surely skyrocket and i will no longer be looked at like some kind of outcast :-)
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2061
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 8:06 am:   

Actually not surprising. The Bin Laden family has built a lot of concrete buildings and structures in that region. That's how they got their money. Osama is the black sheep of the family. Allegedly he has been shunned from the rest of the family, but not before running away with his own million dollars to start his terrorist deal.

BTW: I think I read somewhere that even the US Gov paid the Bin Laden family for some constructions. Before 9/11 that was.
TOM BUCKLEY (Tom_b)
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Username: Tom_b

Post Number: 55
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 4:57 am:   

And now to throw some fuel on this thread. I read last year in , I believe, F1 RACING magazine, that Bahrain is a done deal. Apprantly, the Bahrain government gave Bernie $20,000,000 as a downpayment. Now here's the kicker. The low bidder on building the track was bin Laden Construction Co. That's right boys and girls, the father of your favorite and my favorite terrorist ----- Osama bin Laden !

Tom
Thomas I (Wax)
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Username: Wax

Post Number: 252
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 5:29 pm:   

off-subject/ Not to be PC, but by any stretch of the imagination, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do is not limited to any one faith. /off-subject

What's interesting to me is how there'll be 200 mph speeds achieved in a land where:
(Hope I get this Anonyomous Ancient Arabic saying I read years ago right)
"A man's soul moves at the speed of a camel crossing the desert."
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Username: Auraraptor

Post Number: 962
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   

Jack, I hate Muslims like that. That's just stupid...

...and hypocritical.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2052
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 8:11 am:   

I don't think that missing alcohol ads will be a show stopper in Bahrain. There is so much money, the sheik will simply pay for the ads himself or something.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1394
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 2:46 am:   

The alcohol issue is interesting. While liquor companies don't make up the majority of sponsors, they do have a significant presence at the tracks. What will the policy towards that be, do you suppose?
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1393
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 2:43 am:   

A customer of mine is Jordanian, and a Muslim, but he's a bit contradictory. He's very outspoken about the Mideast (on top of everything else), but he parties as much or more than anyone else. Kind of one of those types who criticizes our system but takes full advantage of it all the same.
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
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Username: Jameel

Post Number: 118
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 8:27 am:   

Yes that is true Muslims are not allowed to drink Alcohol. But on the same note they are also not supposed to purchase it, advertise it, carry it, and even go to restaurants that serve alcohol.

So my question is this, will there be alcohol advertising at the Bahrain circuit? If not I guess no FOSTER�S girls will be there. But I�m sure the tobacco advertising will more than make up for it.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2039
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 7:28 am:   

Rikky, I think that is the deal. I'm no expert on this, but a friend of mine is a muslim and he is not allowed to drink alcohol. However he has his own set of rules and exceptions, so sometimes he does have a beer. Go figure.
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
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Username: Ralessi

Post Number: 312
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   

Sorry, but lost here... Muslims can't have alcohol? or is it something else? Haven't heard this one before
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2032
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:24 pm:   

Yeah. And probably milk instead of Champagne on the podium in Bahrain.

Remember when Saudi Arabian airlines sponsored the Williams team and Alan Jones won the WC? No champagne spraying on the podium out of respect to the sponsors.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1371
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:23 pm:   

I haven't heard anything lately, but does anyone know if they were successful in Bahrain with stopping the blowing sand? I know it was originally a concern.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2908
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   

Not too many Pit Babes expected to be seen at those races ?
Ira Schwartz (Iraschwartz)
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Username: Iraschwartz

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:59 am:   

Yes, I'm sure the cost would've been enormous (Bernie isn't known to give much away) despite the possible economic development appeal.
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
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Username: Jameel

Post Number: 114
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:15 am:   

It's too bad they didn't push harder. I think an F1 venue would have helped Lebanon re-claim some tourism lost during the war. They should have pushed harder; maybe the price of "admission" was too high?!
Ira Schwartz (Iraschwartz)
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Username: Iraschwartz

Post Number: 22
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:56 am:   

Yes, Beirut was talking up a possible F1 venue, but little has been heard about it of late. I think the idea has fallen by the wayside in favor of Bahrain.
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
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Username: Jameel

Post Number: 113
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 8:13 am:   

Does anybody know if Beirut, Lebanon had a bid for an F1 track.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1302
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 9:16 pm:   

China is supposedly in 04 as well.

--Dan
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1364
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:52 pm:   

So they have Bahrain for '04, Turkey in '05 and most likely China either one of those years. Book your trips now! He's got to be effing crazy.
Izel K. (Ferrarist)
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Username: Ferrarist

Post Number: 284
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 4:45 am:   

www.tilke.de

They also designed a track for Turkish GP in Istanbul for 2005.
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1291
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 12:09 am:   

Bahrain GP. I saw a website from the design company (linked from FC soemwhere) that had a very nice track overview, etc.

--Dan
Warren Balla (West662)
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Username: West662

Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:02 pm:   

I haven't heard too much abotu this, just caught sumthing quick on the news today, so Im not sure if this has already been posted on here, maybe its old news! But i want to know if anyone has more info on the new track, or knows where I can find more info on it. I guess its supposed to be ready for 2004.

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