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N'din (Abangdin)
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Username: Abangdin

Post Number: 74
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 9:11 am:   

To me Alonso is the most exciting talent to have come into F1 in a long time. Kimi is good but Kimi tends to overdo things especially during qualifying. JPM is alot of hype an has yet to be consistant.

Alonso is the driver that will challenge Michael and replace him when he retires. Maybe Alonso will be the reason that Michael retire earlier than planned. Micahel seem to have lost the hunger especially in Hungary.

At their level it's more mental and Alonso has proven that. He could concentrate and drive at the same pace throughout the race. Trulli tends to have highs and lows throughout a race. He is good for 1 lap but never a whole race.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2040
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 7:58 am:   

To some degree Alonso realized his potential with two poles and a victory, more than Trulli ever achieved.

But you're right, potential alone doesn't do it. Otherwise Alesi would have become WC one day as well.
DGS (Dgs)
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Username: Dgs

Post Number: 300
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 7:22 am:   

Alonso has potential. It just hasn't been realized yet.

Funny thing is that everyone was talking about Trulli's potential during his second season.

Not every acorn becomes an oak.
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
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Username: Ralessi

Post Number: 313
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 6:56 pm:   

Do these people hire coaches for their kids at these young ages? Just put them in a car set up some cones and say, "go for it!"... what do they do? I guess this is the same thing as all of the sports parents now a days. Sending kids all over the country to play in different golf/tennis tournaments, meet with presitgious coaches, etc. It is good for the kids in a way but also scary with parents pushing them too far... They get burned out, and then what do they do?

Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
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Username: Jameel

Post Number: 116
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:15 pm:   

That's incredible at 3 years old he was driving a go-kart. Wow I didn�t think 3 year olds had the �motor� skills (pun intended) to operate a go-kart.

Well, if I ever have children they�re going into go-karting at the age of 3.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2031
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:12 pm:   

Wow, cool stuff. Reminds me of a friend who's son started karting at age 3 as well and already passed kids twice his age.

A few weeks ago I met a guy at a track who was in his early twenties and he asked what I'd recommend for him to become a professional race car driver. I didn't want to squish his fire, so I recommended he'd start with Skip Barber.

But let's be realistic: Unless you started as a young child, the train's gone. I think the competition is so hard these days, that gentlemen drivers won't make it to the big classes anymore.
Thomas I (Wax)
Junior Member
Username: Wax

Post Number: 237
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   

Andreas, yes the picture is of Alonso. I'd seen your profile pic once before, but had forgotten whom it belonged to - sharing your truly classic moment is much appreciated.

'81 Alonso Born
'84 First Karting competition. 3-years-old!
'88 Karting children category:
Champion of Asturias (won 8 of 8 races)
'89 Karting children category:
Champion of Asturias
Champion of Galicia

So on and so forth... for example, as a 12-year-old in '96,
Karting junior category:
Champion of the World
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2021
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 9:06 am:   

Jamil, you're spot on: Real talents are fast out of the box: Michael impressed the world in a Jordan, Senna in a Toleman, Kimi in a Sauber and Alonso in a Renault. Although I have to say, the Renault on Michelins is not a dog to begin with. Alonso like Kimi has the great potential, but they don't have the experience yet. Give them a couple more years and they'll clinch it (unless Kimi does it already this year, shudder).

The fact that Alonso outclasses Trulli didn't impress me much. I never thought highly of Trulli. But the fact, that he put the Renault twice on pole and even scores a victory in his second season, speaks volumes.

You can say what you want about this year's qualifying and that the pole doesn't count because of light fuel loads. Fact is, that almost all teams in all races didn't play any kind of game. The grid does represent the strengths and weaknesses. We all thought Renault played a cheap trick in Malaysia, nope. They and Alonso were so fast.
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
Junior Member
Username: Jameel

Post Number: 115
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

DGS,

what you don't realize (or maybe you do) is this is Alonso�s 2nd season in F1, in a car that�s down around 80 to 100 HP on the other top teams. So, the fact that he put his car on pole and managed to pull away is what is so astonishing and that�s why he�s being hyped up. I�ve become a huge Alonso fan ever since Malaysia. Wait until this kid gets a better drive (Williams or a Ferrari)!
DGS (Dgs)
Member
Username: Dgs

Post Number: 297
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 7:07 am:   

Go back and watch that last race again. Alonso got in front of Webber, everyone else got behind. The race was over after the first ten seconds.

Alonso has all the hype, but we haven't seen him pull the kinds of moves we used to see between Mika and Michael.

Sitting alone out front might score points with FIA, but it's the ability to start in back and work your way up front that makes for a "great" driver.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2018
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 6:56 am:   

Is that Alonso?

Wouldn't be surprised. THAT's the way to grow those neuron endings together in the way you need them 20 years later. Michael and Ralf were brought up the same way around their father's go kart track.

PS: I had an early start as well, see my profile.
:-)
Thomas I (Wax)
Junior Member
Username: Wax

Post Number: 231
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 6:13 pm:   

He's been prepared for a very, very, very long time.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2016
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 2:45 pm:   

I'm with you Alberto. Alonso is the future. If he doesn't hurt himself, he'll be a world champion one day. Would love to see him in the red cars one day.

...but he has to get rid of that stupid triangular 'beard' below his lower lip.
alberto bavai (Abavai)
Junior Member
Username: Abavai

Post Number: 122
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   

I am very enthusiast of ferrari and shumacher fan, but Fernando Alonso is the most driver today.
The future is Fernando Alonso.
What do you think of Fernando?
I would like to see to fernando with the red car.
The best combination of pilot and car.

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