| Author | Message | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 338 Registered: 4-2001 |
F1 technology is great, adds to the game and the most advanced around but it not the reason I think people watch it. Its the drivers and human competition which means passing. If technology was all there was you wouln'd have to go to the track to settle it, just run a virtual computer race. Didn't some of the greatest races of the past involve superior or supremely agressive drivers overcoming outclassed race cars to win? | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 300 Registered: 6-2003 |
MS passing at USGP:     | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 977 Registered: 11-2002 |
Mitch is right!, that is the answer. We currently have cars that brake so late and quickly that the difference between missing you brake point is mm's not metres, thus a human has trouble making it happen. The other problem is corporate pressure to get results ... most drivers are too scared of pissing off the boss by making a mistake, so they wait for the pitstop. Pete | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Intermediate Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 1126 Registered: 4-2002 |
Want passing--easy--ban all the wings! Braking distances go up by 3X in distance Acceleration goes up by 3X-4X in distance Cornering speeds go down by 2.5X in velocity No need to limit engine HP! No need to limit brake technology! | ||
| Byron Faber (Adrenln328)
New member Username: Adrenln328 Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2003 |
Sorry, I have to agree with Neal. Just about everyone I know says that the Silverstone race was more interesting to watch. The technological magnificance isn't negated by being able to pass instead of just going around in a parade. In fact, better racing includes more than just following someone else. I just got back from Indianapolis & I can tell you that the whole experience is an adrenalin pumping rush even just as it is. The sound alone is incredible. Now if we could just do someting about Montoya & keep him from screwing up other people..... | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1470 Registered: 1-2002 |
>>Its Cray! not crey you dolt!<< Hey, sorry, didn't mean to bend your pocket protector... | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Intermediate Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 1117 Registered: 4-2002 |
"crey is to computer geeks" Its Cray! not crey you dolt! And it has not been the holy grail since about 1990. But from 1973 to 1990 Cray Research Incorporated rulled the scientific market, with a few pertabation from NEC with the SX series. Before that the CDC 6600 in 1963 and the CDC7600 in 1969? were both designed by Seymore Cray. IBM was totally amazed in 1963 when the CDC6600 outperformed their biggest machine and used only 1/3 the number of logic gates! | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 971 Registered: 11-2002 |
Exactly Hubert, it is not entertainment, it is far bigger than that ... Pete | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1465 Registered: 1-2002 |
I hate to make this parallel, but F1 is to motorsport what the crey is to computer geeks; it's the holy grail. F1 is all about the "thrill" of technological advancement, human engineering novelty, etc., but, unfortunatly for some, it's not neccessarily about "passing." Now, I don't know, todays race, in my opinion, was eventful, interesting and not at all boring (alas, I wasn't left with sorrow and pity, and a yearning for "a pass."). So, in closing: F1 exists to push the envelope of what is mechanically, and humanly, possible. Sorry, that 's it. It's not like, there's some guy, that's bummed that the crey won't run 9999999 algorithims at once (since there's always more you could want), but it's the fact that it can run them at all... | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 869 Registered: 10-2001 |
You have to hope for rain. F1 gets to be a lot more fun if you can break things up. We saw the best race of the year because a fool in UK ran out on the track. As everyone here has said. A reverse grid would make this sport much more interesting. F1 reminds me of American Baseball. For many years Baseball was the top sport in USA now its Football by a huge margin. Baseball just got too dull. Kids growing up today won't just watch something because it was good enough to keep their dads happy. I blame fast action video games. Last F1 race Rob mentioned he was on the computer durring most of the race. I to, had to find something to do, since the only action was lap 1 | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 969 Registered: 11-2002 |
Suggest motor racing is not your thing ... It is not for everybody  , just like other sports. Pete | ||
| neal (95spiderneal)
Member Username: 95spiderneal Post Number: 266 Registered: 3-2002 |
just enjoyed usgp (esp results) but cant help thinking its sort of boring. would more passing be possible if tracks were wider in turns by maybe 15 feet? any other ideas? |