| Author | Message | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 491 Registered: 7-2003 |
Perhaps you can find out who in Boston (or anywhere ET) is showing the race via Speed's Forum. http://insider.speedtv.com/ | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Intermediate Member Username: Psk Post Number: 1002 Registered: 11-2002 |
Andreas,
Yep this is what should happen ...  . Pete | ||
| Byron Faber (Adrenln328)
New member Username: Adrenln328 Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2003 |
Boy, would I love to be there. Too bad work gets in the way this weekend. Now, if I could just find a way to have all the patients need care only during the week.... ;-) Next season I plan on being down to join in with you folks a lot more. Rob says the F1 gatherings are tremendous & I know it would be fun with all of you. Hope I can get there for the season opener. | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 158 Registered: 9-2002 |
Thank you Dr. Faber, too bad you can't come down next week to watch it together with Rob, Anthony, Dave and I. I don't think that we will see the same type of race at Suzuka. | ||
| Byron Faber (Adrenln328)
New member Username: Adrenln328 Post Number: 30 Registered: 9-2003 |
OK, Tony, I have to concede to you on the points about what has happened in past years. I've only followed F1 for the past couple of years. However, Rubens seems to be a very fast & good driver, but has been knocked out by other cars, most recently JPM, waaay too often. I willingly bow to your more comprehensive knowledge of the sport. Let's just hope our boys come through cleanly in this next one. | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 155 Registered: 9-2002 |
Dr. Faber, come on give poor Montoya a brake. He didn't mean to hit RB and possibly risk taking himself out being behind in the Championship. Now MS had the right idea when he was ahead by a point in 94 by taking out Damon Hill. Unfotunately it backfired on him in 97 when he tried the same stunt on JV. However, I think MS will win this race fair and square. This season reminds me of the 2000 Season for Ferrari. What do you think Pat? | ||
| Byron Faber (Adrenln328)
New member Username: Adrenln328 Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2003 |
Gotta agree, I am eager for the return of the days when Ferrari won most of the races. However, we must consider how much Montoya likes to run into our guys & knock them off the track. If it is a clean race, I think MS & Rubens could make it a 1-2 finish. Just my humble opion. | ||
| James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member Username: Aventino Post Number: 124 Registered: 6-2003 |
Williams will win but fortunately Ferrari will have them disqualified. Or Kimi will win and Ferrari will have them disqualified. Either way it will be an unfortunately close race with an obvious outcome. Why can't we go back to last year where Ferrari always won by miles and the other teams should have stayed home? | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2450 Registered: 10-2002 |
PSK, sounds like we both will never forget that Spa GP. My blood froze in my veins, one of those images that will stick with me for the rest of my life. Like Senna's exit. Let's keep a positive attitude. In all likelihood MS will score some points and Kimi winning the race is rather unlikely. I think JPM has a better chance. For what's it's worth: I ate my Teriyaki this weekend already. Good vibes! | ||
| Kevin S. (Wolfgang5150)
Junior Member Username: Wolfgang5150 Post Number: 62 Registered: 5-2003 |
I personally AM very nervous! There are at least 778 billion different scenarios. What I think will happen is that Ferrari will let Schu qualify as normal, then de-tune the engine for race day; ie. knock a few hundred revs off the top line, to ensure reliability. There are still alot of hungry drivers in the top 8 who could care less about the WC and will be going strictly for the win (Alonso & Trulli) to name a few! I don't care who wins as long as MS brings home the title..............This will be a tense week...... | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 987 Registered: 11-2002 |
This is the one of the times I wish Irvine was driving again for Ferrari instead of RB. Irvine spent many years in the Japanese F3 (or F3000?) championship and knows Suzuka better even than MS ... and Irvine is bloody fast there. I think Andreas is right though, RB has to go for the win, or atleast lead Kimi ... while MS has the scary task of keeping his nose clean. As we all know, when you are trying to keep out of everybodies way is when thing go bad ... better for MS to go for broke (er, atleast for the first 10 laps) and then back off while in the lead. The problem with running in the middle of the pack is that he is putting himself at the mercey of DC and Montoya (who looks like the type of guy that would knock MS out just to deny him the title ... maybe a bit harsh, but he does have a spoilers attitude). Plus DC definitely made it difficult for MS to pass in that wet SPA incident many years ago. Yes it was MS's fault for not backing off and just taking the win ... but the way DC did the 'allowing MS to pass' was unethical and I personally think with Ron Denis in his ear. We have all seen many times over how DC is a bought man and will bend over for the team. While the WC might seem in the bag ... I personally would be very nervous if I was MS. Pete | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 478 Registered: 7-2003 |
Previous Suzuka Results | ||
| Ira Schwartz (Iraschwartz)
New member Username: Iraschwartz Post Number: 36 Registered: 5-2003 |
Oops, of course I meant "Ralf" (Schumacher), not "Ralph" (Firman)! In any case, Andreas, your points about Rubens and the Saubers are well-taken (although Heidfeld and Frentzen probably don't much care if they're both without rides for next year). | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2428 Registered: 10-2002 |
Robert, that's actually what he said he would do. I don't see that happening. One I don't think the Ferrari is up to par and two it'd be a foolish thing to risk everything when you only need to swim along for a point. UNLESS there is rain. At that point Der Regenmeister will take over as he did in Indy. Ira, you're quite right about the manufacturer's standings. That would be a reason for Frank not to do it, depending on the points situation. Hard to predict. But I do believe Rubens will be sent out to go for broke and steal the victory at all risks. Where does Ralf (not Ralph, that'd be a Jordan) fit into all of this? I wondered myself. Imagine MS out of the race and Kimi leading with Ralf just behind him. Would he put out all the stops and risk running into Kimi to keep the WC in the family? Maybe I'm going too far here, too much Sopranos. But the question remains, what will all the foot soldiers do? There are also two Saubers in the mix, who will have the same engine and gearbox next year and certainly try to do their best to help their engine supplier. | ||
| Robert Faber (F129b)
Junior Member Username: F129b Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2003 |
I think you're all missing the greatest likelihood... Schumacher OWNS Suzuka. He will open a big lead and drive away from the field so as not to be around for any 'incidents'. | ||
| Ira Schwartz (Iraschwartz)
New member Username: Iraschwartz Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2003 |
Andreas: There's also the manufacturer's crown to consider- Frank may not be able to afford to be magnanimous even in the unlikely event that he wanted to- he needs his boys to score points to beat Ferrari. Where are Ralph and Rubens in your hypothetical scenario? | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2427 Registered: 10-2002 |
LOL! DC can't even do a proper MS job. Well neither could MS in Jerez... Seriously, what do you think would happen if MS is already a DNF and Montoya leads the race 5 seconds ahead of Kimi? Would the Brits stick together and Frank call JPM back to get the title back on the island? After all Frank and Dennis hate Ferrari. Or would they only think about their own points? | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 980 Registered: 11-2001 |
On a serious basis, I really would watch for DC in this race. Ruben's actions in the last race showed that targeting an opponent is acceptable, and the only way Kimi can win is if the Ferrari of Schumi is removed from the race. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 979 Registered: 11-2001 |
DC 'accidently' runs into MS multiple times, including 2 incidents on pit row. DC's usual incompetence results in no damage to the Ferrari, and MS wins the 6th WC title by finishing 5th. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2424 Registered: 10-2002 |
So what should/will Ferrari do in Suzuka? Let's try to get into Ross Brawn's head for a moment: They will give Rubens only fumes to qualify. He'll set it on pole. Schumi will qualify regularly and end up on 4th. As the race begins, Rubens and Kimi will race each other as hard as possible. Rubens will try to get Kimi to either make a mistake or blow his engine. Schumi on the other hand will quietly drive around on the 5th position and cruise home with a couple spare points. ...so much for the plan before it begins to rain. What do you see in your crystal ball? |