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John T (Tifosi_4)
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Username: Tifosi_4

Post Number: 49
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:10 pm:   

I can't wait to see the Sauber's running next year!
They have 2 very talented drivers with Fisichella and Massa.

Oh yeah!....I hope Fisichella will end up with Ferrari the year after because I truly believe this guy will be a future world champion.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1827
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:25 pm:   

I dont think Fisi will end up there - maybe as a 2nd driver when Rubio has to go and no one else wants to take backseat?

--Dan
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1536
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 4:52 pm:   

I've always liked Fisi, and would love to see him in a Ferrari. Unfortunately, I'm afraid this is as close as he'll get.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2701
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   

Actually Sauber will be using its own chassis for next season. However for the first time ever they'll be using not only Ferrari's engines, but also the Ferrari tranny.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
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Post Number: 1626
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 2:06 pm:   

Fisi hopes to drive for ferrari. Sauber (by connection with ferrari) is percieved as the ferrari feeder team, as not only will the get the newer engines now, but may alos begin buying chassis' (if the new regulations allow outsourced chassis').
PSk (Psk)
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Username: Psk

Post Number: 1103
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:26 am:   

Oh did not know that. That really sucks and must be disheartening.

The way the cards fall is so very important.

Chris Amon kept playing them wrong and yet Enzo rated him as one of the best drivers he has ever had.

Pete
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
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Username: Ferrari_co_uk

Post Number: 121
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:21 am:   

Pete,

Partly because he was tied into a long contract with Benetton courtesy of Mr Briatore which coincided with Benetton's worst stretch of cars. Once he was free of that contract he bolted, Benetton sign Mike Gascoyne and start producing good cars again. Typical! it would have been nice to see him next to Alonso this year. It must be gutting to watch all your hard work pay off for someone else.

Best
Mark
PSk (Psk)
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Username: Psk

Post Number: 1102
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:15 am:   

So Mark why is he still driving crap?

Fisi has been around for a long time and never made it to the big 3. Me thinks if Ron, Frank and Ferrari aren't interested there must be a good reason.

As for winning that race this year ... er, now that was lucky, and I guess he deserved it because he was in the right place at the right time which many others weren't.

Maybe if the Saubers are okay this year he can finally show me what 'you' see in him.

Pete
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
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Username: Ferrari_co_uk

Post Number: 120
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:44 am:   

Pete,

Fisichella, mediocre, you have got to be kidding! He's one of the best drivers out there despite having to drive pretty crap cars year after year (he even won a race for Jordan this year). In fact I dont think he's been out paced by a team mate yet. R Schumacher, Wurz, Button, Sato etc. Signing him is definately a good move by Peter Sauber.

Best
Mark
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 2696
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:42 am:   

Actually Peter Sauber was over the moon with getting Fisico. He always wanted him and now finally got the chance.

Massa has (hopefully) learned a few things as Ferrari's test driver.

If you look at the blunders Frentzen/Heidfeld made this year, you can't really say the new pair is worse. Probably slightly better.

I'm no big fan of either, but first the Sauber car has to improve. So all in all a fair match I would say.

PS: Not to steal Jim's thunder, but this has been announced a long time ago. Not officially, but it was clear for several months. I remember back in June when my friend bought a Fisico replica helmet I told him, that we'll get it signed in Hinwil, Switzerland next year (my childhood home was the village next to where Sauber's factory is today).
PSk (Psk)
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Username: Psk

Post Number: 1101
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:36 am:   

Well, I don't get it myself. How come Fisichella and other mediocre drivers like him keep getting drives.

Same goes for Massa, except he is young and they may see something that I definitely cannot see ... he is as eratic and out of control as Verstapin.

Oh well another dud year coming up for Sauber.

Pete
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
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Username: Boxer12

Post Number: 436
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:55 am:   

Sauber Formula 1 team has officially confirmed that Felipe Massa will return next year after a year "off" as a Ferrari test driver. He has signed a two-year contract with the Swiss team.

The 22-year-old Brazilian will partner Giancarlo Fisichella in the squad's lineup.

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