| Author | Message | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3905 Registered: 8-2002 |
78 is key for me | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 311 Registered: 2-2003 |
Its been '73 for a couple years now and not going to change anytime soon. When it does, if ever, change to '74 or even '75, I'll rejoice like I won the lottery. Sunny | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3846 Registered: 8-2002 |
When will 78 be exempt? | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Intermediate Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 1111 Registered: 1-2001 |
>Address: http://www.bakersfield.com/top/story/2952669p-2987276c.html > >By VIC POLLARD, Californian Sacramento Bureau >e-mail: vpollard@b... > >Tuesday April 15, 2003, 10:56:17 PM > >SACRAMENTO -- With Jay Leno and the rest of California's classic car buffs >on his case, State Sen. Dean Florez has dropped his proposal to require >smog checks for cars as old as 1958 models. > >Leno, "The Tonight Show" host who has a large collection of vintage autos, >personally called Florez's office to lobby against the plan. > >The lawmaker was also inundated with letters, e-mails and phone calls from >many other members of the highly organized hobby car community. > >One of their tools was a cartoon depicting Florez in his state-leased SUV >chasing classic cars out of California. > >Florez was forced to back down on the bill, one in a package of 10 bills >aimed at cleaning up the air in the Central Valley, before it even got its >first legislative hearing. > >The bill, SB 708, isn't dead, but it has been amended to crack down on >cars that emit visible smoke. Originally, it called for requiring regular >smog checks and repairs for cars up to 45 model years old. If in effect >this year, it would apply to cars made in 1958 or later. That would have >replaced the state's existing exemption for cars older than 30 model >years, which this year is 1973. > >"Given all the fights we have on all the other air pollution bills," >Florez said, "it wasn't going to help to push that one." > >He said classic car fans made a convincing argument that most of the >oldest cars on the road, while they may be some of the worst polluters, >aren't usually driven to and from work daily. > >"We told the classic car folks that we're going to continue to talk to >them," Florez continued, "but that was just too much of a detailed type of >proposal." > >Florez's legislative aide, Michael Rubio, said Leno called after reading a >newspaper article about the smog bills. > >"He said he wanted to know what the deal was with (SB) 708," Rubio said. >"Several days later, he called back and said, 'You've got me thinking >now.' And I said 'Can I start at the beginning?'" > >He said Leno listened carefully and discussed his thoughts on the smog >problem and the bill at some length, urging Florez to carefully >distinguish between older cars that are driven for basic transportation >and those that are merely exhibited most of the time. > >Other problems, he said, are the difficulty of getting repair parts for >older cars and the fact that emission controls were not mandated on cars >until the late 1960s. > >The same arguments were made by the classic car community's chief >lobbyist, Steve McDonald of the Special Equipment Marketing Association, a >trade group of manufacturers, retailers, publishers and restorers. > >"Obviously we're thrilled that the senator has agreed to modify the >legislation and refocus the target on what we believe is a more effective >one, that being smoking vehicles," McDonald said. > >So are hobbyists like Jan VanderPool of Bakersfield, who, with his >fiancee, owns three vintage Ford Mustangs. > >"That's definitely a big relief to me," he said. > >VanderPool said it took years and a lot of effort to get the rolling >exemption from smog checks for cars that are more than 30 years old >enacted in 1997. > >Florez and his staff appeared surprised, if not shellshocked, at the size >and aggressiveness of the lobbying campaign against the smog check proposal. > >But it was no surprise to VanderPool, who has been through similar drills >before when legislation was proposed that helped or hurt car hobbyists. > >"A lot of us have had to get pretty political," he said. "We've had to get >active and kind of watch our backs." > >Copyright � 2003, The Bakersfield Californian | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2979 Registered: 8-2002 |
Letter in the mail today Rob | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 109 Registered: 2-2002 |
Just write your representatives, I talked to Carlos Amato at FCA and he is going to send the word out via e-mail to the southwest members. This is a mistake and we need to let them know before it even proceeds, can you imagine smogging a 63 citroen??? Rob | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2896 Registered: 8-2002 |
Dave LOL! | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 506 Registered: 12-2002 |
LOL Dave, I think that idea would have been great but I dont think we would be able to organize an event that big. It would be one powerful protest though...Even if it doesnt get anything changed, it would be great fun  | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 58 Registered: 8-2002 |
Just a quick thought , I think we as a huge group of Ferrari owners should just drive our cars to Sacramento and protest against this Smog Issue.I for one would want my car to be on the 6:00 news.If this was planed well we could make it a DRIVE!!!!!! Start planning MATT................ I would love to see hundreds of Ferraris driving from all over and parking in front of the state capitol.Hell....even trailer your car if needed. AAAHHHHH FORGET IT! Half our cars are illegal anyway ....including mine  | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 108 Registered: 2-2002 |
Matt, Happy B-day sorry I did not make it I am still having some health problems. My car would have been exempt next year, i think you did not understand what is going on they want to start checking all cars back to 1958!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please write your representatives this could be bad.... and it is no joke | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2825 Registered: 8-2002 |
Rob, isn't your car except yet? | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 106 Registered: 2-2002 |
That doesn't mean you can't call or write, this kind of stuff needs to be snipped in the bud. There is no more humilating experience than taking your pricless ferrari in for a smog test and having the tech grind the gears on the dyno. UUGGGHHHH!!! | ||
| Robert Callahan (Rcallahan)
Junior Member Username: Rcallahan Post Number: 100 Registered: 7-2002 |
Just another reason my car is reg. in Oregon | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 103 Registered: 2-2002 |
a little more information about California Senate bill *SB 708* (authored by Senator Florez), which if passed would make smog checks required of all (gasoline powered) cars in California up to *45* model years old starting in 2005. I know many of you have newer cars but this is the time we need to stand together. Please write or call your representative NOW!!! I spoke with *Michael* in Senator Florez' office today. He stated that they are trying to *define* classic cars in order to exempt them from this requirement. He also stated that if they could not do so, they would not go forward with the legislation. I asked if "public input" was sought and Michael said they would prefer *LETTERS* addressed to the Senator's Sacramento office (see address below). Letters should clearly state the writer's position on this issue. Let's provide that "public input" in a big way! I would also suggest that you contact (write or call) both your Assembly representative and your State Senator, to also state your opposition to the provisions of SB 708 (see link below to locate your state representatives). I ask that you help circulate this information by forwarding this information to any other relevant mailing lists you may be on. Below are links to the bill itself, the author, and a web site where you can locate your elected representatives. Send letters to the author of the bill to: Senator Dean Florez State Capitol, Room 4090 Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 445-4641 Fax (916) 327-5989 Text of SB 708: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_708&sess=CUR&house =B&author=florez The web site of the author of the bill, Dean Florez, Democrat, Senate District 16, Shafter (near Bakersfield). His area comprises most of the San Joaquin Valley: http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/florez/ To find the contact information for your elected representatives, click on this link and enter your zip code: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/yourleg.html |