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Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
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Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 381
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 2:30 pm: | |
This is all very sad. I have been following this from the U.S. My condolences to their family and friends as well as their friends on FChat. |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member
Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 3:15 am: | |
I haven't been on the Internet since last thursday .... and I was a bit pissed on Friday and Saturday, because I couldn't attend the FChat meeting at the ring .... Jens had organized it in such a nice way .... it would have been such a great day .... meeting FChatters and having fun ..... but then I read this VERY sad news .... unbelievable .... silence .... tears .... my heart stopped beating for a few seconds .... what a nightmare ....
Rest in peace Jens ... rest in peace Amar ...
My deepest condolences to their families and friends, wishing a lot of strength in this hard time ...
Best regards from a very sad F-Chatter, Edvar |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
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Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 744
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:53 am: | |
I am very depressed right now....I can't believe this!!!  |
Ernie (Ernie)
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Username: Ernie
Post Number: 720
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:53 am: | |
I'm sorry to here the terrible news. My only hope is that they are now in Heaven. GOD bless them and their family. |
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Username: Malfark
Post Number: 295
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:56 am: | |
Everyone,
I have just had an emotional phone call with Wolfgang. I have been in a meeting all week (the reason that I could not join the F-Chat delegation to the N�rburgring) and have therefore not been online. Wolfgang just passed the tragic news on to me....
Although I had never met them, Jens and Amar had become real friends online. They were passionate about their cars and were really supportive when I had problems with mine. I am shattered.
I would like to pass on my deepest sympathiest to the families and to all who knows Amar and Jens.
MARK
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david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1023
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:46 am: | |
This is a terrible loss.
They will be missed.... |
William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member
Username: Solipsist
Post Number: 1143
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:18 am: | |
For everyone here, I'm truly sorry to hear about this tragic loss. I cannot put into words on how I feel now. Even though I had never met them, it felt like an inner circle of kindred spirits, all enjoying information exchannged in this forum. God Speed Jens and Amar. |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 568
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:33 pm: | |
Indeed, very sad news has crossed the Atlantic. My condolences to their families. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter
Post Number: 2864
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:05 pm: | |
That is terribly sad news. My condolences to their families...
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Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
Junior Member
Username: Dj_dirk
Post Number: 206
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:42 pm: | |
man i can't believe this
i wasn't home when guy called me and informed me, i just can't believe it.
jens was such a great guy
i'm really upset by this
and then to think that i tried calling jens tonight |
Manu (Manu)
Member
Username: Manu
Post Number: 759
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:06 pm: | |
OH GOD.. is this true...
I feel sick. They were both my customers.... I feel sick.
I spoke to both regularly. I saw Amar just 3 weeks ago - we serviced his car... I sold Jens his tubi...
I can't believe it...Oh God.
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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1756
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:02 pm: | |
Very sad |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345
Post Number: 349
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
Ton,
thanks for calling me just a few minutes ago.
I still don`want to believe it....I`m crying.
My deepest sympathiest to the family and all who knows Amar and Jens.
You will be ever in my mind. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4911
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
my condolences to the families.
A tragic day on Ferrari Chat!
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Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 269
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:44 pm: | |
Bart
this is tragic, my deepest sympathies to their families and all who know them |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Username: Sharky666
Post Number: 422
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:38 pm: | |
Hello All,
Just got back from Bonn.
As I've seen you already heard the news.
Like you all read, there's no need to come to the nordschleife anymore.
Jens and Amar both passed away
The car somehow flipped over and caught fire. They didn't got out.
There will be more info later on, tommorow orso.
Best whishes,
Bart Boonacker |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 268
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:28 pm: | |
Wolfgang
there is no other information of use except lots of sadness for the loss |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4906
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:28 pm: | |
I think that is what he did Wolfgang.
BTW just saw your post about Monaco. I was there too with my wife. I posted that in the Off-topic though. Damn we missed. I could have told you a nice spot to park and walk down to MC. |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345
Post Number: 348
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:21 pm: | |
Mark,
can you copy the text please?
Thanks
Wolfgang |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 267
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:18 pm: | |
Martin
it was posted on a forum for regular visitors to the ring
Don;t know if you can get ot it without joining but link is
http://www.smartgroups.com/group/group.cfm?GID=676210 |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 4905
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:15 pm: | |
Mark,
where did you get the info?
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Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:09 pm: | |
Not much more info yet but from the Ringers list
I am sorry to report that there was a bad smash this afternoon, we were chatting at about 14.45 in the car park when a newish looking 360? modena with UK plates left the gates, we were talking about the fact that they don't handle, are better in the car park etc etc.. at about 15.00 a closure was declared, Caz was with us and her mobile started to ring, it was Jocke, he arrived 20 - 30 seconds after it happened, he came over flugplatz and saw the smoke from the burning 360. It had spun out at S-Kruez landed on it's roof, and caught on fire. They have just said on local radio that the driver was English and the passenger was a German. They both died.
It seems to confirm it was a UK Modena 360 |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345
Post Number: 347
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:08 pm: | |
Guy,
thanks for the mobil number and I will try to get Ton.
I`m still trying to get Jens or Amar over mobil......no connection.
Oh my god...
Wolfgang |
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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Username: Rpm_tifosi
Post Number: 37
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:02 pm: | |
Wolfgang,
Just online and read your terrible news!!
This is really bad!!
I think i got the mobile number from Ton V: +31655397008
I tried to phone myself but no connection!!
Maybe you can try?!
Keep posted...
Guy H |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Member
Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 265
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
I have posted on a couple of UK Boards, one where Amar posts to try and get information,
I'll post here if I learn anything |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1753
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:42 pm: | |
Still here... |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345
Post Number: 346
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:37 pm: | |
Martin, Ansgar,
thanks...
Here is my Phone Number - please give me a call.
+49 6202-126811
Wolfgang |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345
Post Number: 345
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:28 pm: | |
Ansgar,
I try to find/get the mobil numbers from Bart B. and Ton V. Can you help me? Still no conection to Jens & Amar.
Wolfgang |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4898
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
I called the restaurant and the table was cancelled.
I called the hotel and they all checked out this afternoon.
Maybe we should try some of the NL guys?
I can not get an answer on the cell from jens as well.
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345
Post Number: 344
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:14 pm: | |
James,
I`m so down and sad `cause we don`t know what happened with our friends. I try to call them every 2 minutes...but no conection over mobil or at home. I try to find contact to other gents.
PLEASE, who can help us with infos??????
Wolfgang...stay online the whole night! |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1752
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:06 pm: | |
My thoughts and prayers are with you all... |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345
Post Number: 343
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 2:02 pm: | |
Ansgar,
I`m trying to call Amar and Jens over mobil....no conection....please,please...tell me that`s not true.
Wolfgang |
Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
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Username: Taunus
Post Number: 195
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:59 pm: | |
HOLY •••• !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345
Post Number: 342
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:55 pm: | |
Ansgar,
thanks, sorry I can`t find the right words...I�m very sad. Just saw at:
http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/rp/rpkurz.html#meldung0
another story with one German gent 29 years old.
I try to call Jens over mobil.....just ringing but no answer.....ooooh my god!?!
Wolfgang
P.S. do you have the mobil from Amar?
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Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
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Username: Taunus
Post Number: 194
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:50 pm: | |
@Wolfgang
Look here:
http://www.touristenfahrer.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1086
That is all i know. |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345
Post Number: 341
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:44 pm: | |
Ansgar,
what happened???????????
Please let me know; I spoke to jens early this morning and he was on the way to the Ring with the other gents.
What do you know about the accident or car?
Wolfgang |
Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member
Username: Taunus
Post Number: 190
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 12:09 pm: | |
Very, very bad news !!!
Today there was a horrible crash at the Nordschleife. A english Ferrari crashed and burned out. Both passengers are dead. I hope no one of our guys here was involved... |
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member
Username: Malfark
Post Number: 293
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:40 am: | |
Hi Guys,
Debra and I are back from South Africa...WOW, the list has been BUSY in our absence! I'm stuck in a work session in the SAS Radisson in Prague that will only end on Saturday. I wish I was able to join you all at Nurburgring, but that will not be possible. Enjoy...and I look forward to seeing the photos!
Regards, MARK |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Username: Amar360
Post Number: 241
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 1:06 am: | |
Hi,
Off to Silverstone and see you all tonight and tomorrow in Bonn...
A presto,
Amar |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 622
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 2:29 pm: | |
Roel,
I am sure that Harry will take you around for a lap. Looking forward to see you again too.
Ton |
Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 7:13 pm: | |
Only one day left and i'm really starting to get excited, heh. Wouldn't wanna miss this for the world. Went over the program again and there is just no possible way for this event to fail. (*knocks on wood*)
Haven't been very active on the board the last few weeks, but still I've been reading, just not so much posting.
Oh one thing, Ton, I read you won't be with us untill friday morning? Couldn't get thursday off eh? Shame though, I was waiting for the opportunity to beat an ex-fighterpilot at karting. Even though it has nothing to do with eachother, somehow it seems to hold some brag-value. Ah well  will see you on friday. Make sure the 328 is clean! hah.
Great to hear Harry is coming over again too. He's a great guy and I would love to fetch a ride with him around the ring. Didn't get the opportunity to ask him last time (hopefully no big accidents this time), but I haven't forgotten how fast he was in his porsche. *wow*
Oh, took a quick peek at the website of the Hotel just now. All I can say is 'not too shabby... at all'. Seriously, looks -great-.
Bart and I will leave together at 9:00 for the trip to Bonn, which should get us there well before 15:00. (Gotta love the Autobahn)
I'll finish with saying I really feel forward to meeting everyone (again), putting some faces to the names here, and having a great time overall. I'm 100% sure this will be the case.
Cheers!
-Roel |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 6:59 pm: | |
Jens and Ton,
Compared to your shiny Ferraris, mine will be the great unwashed one I'm afraid, maybe showing the effects of some good driving over from London. And with any luck I'll see Michael S in the morning to compensate for missing out on his kart track in the evening.
Yes Ton it will be tight but I hope to find some good and not-too-crowded roads in your country and enjoy the drive through Belgium as much as usual. See you Thursday night Jens, hopefully in time to join you all for dinner; and see you Friday Ton...
Ciao,
Amar |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 621
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 2:49 pm: | |
Jens,
Good to hear that you are ready! I am almost ready. Just have to wash my car tomorrow.
Amar,
Sounds like a very tight plan to me. I hope that you make it. There will be plenty of facilities in Bonn to have something to eat. It is actually a very nice city with a lot of bars and restaurants.
I will arrive at the hotel on fridaymorning and join you guys for breakfast. I am really looking forward to meeting you all (again).
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 846
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 2:37 pm: | |
Amar,
Wow, sounds like a busy day!
We will be at the Schumacher cart track for thursday evening and then come back to the hotel to have some drinks at the bar or a beergarden near by.
About dinner nothing special is planned although at the hotel as well near by there are some possibilities.
You surely got my mobile now. Guess we will be back at around 2200 or so.
I could easily phone you on your room to meet up for the drinks or/and a snack.
Hope that is OK with you!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Username: Amar360
Post Number: 239
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 2:30 pm: | |
Hello Jens and all,
First, a small change in my arrival time... for a very good reason - I got invited to F1 testing at Silverstone Thursday morning with Ferrari, Williams and others in attendance. So the hope is to be in the pits for morning session from 10:00-13:00 and then dodge the cops all the way to Dover for the 16:00 ferry - wish me luck!
With Calais arrival at 18:00 local time and yet more luck and the kindness of French and Belgian Police, I hope to get to our hotel by 21:00-21:30. Is that completely unrealistic considering Belgian traffic and police?
Anyway Jens, what time do you plan to get to dinner Thursday and shall we meet there directly? Precise directions would be most appreciated.
And I've even finally bought a digital camera (Canon Ixus 400) - who knows I might even master enough of the very thick instruction guide to take a photo or two successfully...
Look forward to meeting everybody there and doing some fun laps!
A presto,
Amar |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 845
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 1:21 pm: | |
Hello everybody,
Just checked out the weather forecast! Looks bad for tomorrow but the weekend should be dry and a little bit colder than today:
All in all perfect outcast.
Just cleaned the car thoroughly. Filled up a liter Shell Helix 0W-40, adjusted tire pressure to specs and filled her up with Shell V-Power 100 Octane.
I am ready!
Looking forward to have some fun with you and some red cars!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Post Number: 418
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 3:09 pm: | |
Edvar, that's to bad
Would be nice meeting you again, well maybe @ Zandvoort if you can make it there.
Guy, my deepest condolances. Sorry to hear it.
Must really suck, losing your best friend.
Good you're coming saturday, would love to see your S2000 going around the ring, must be awesome aswell.
As a mirror in my grandma's house used to say: "Geniet van het leven, het duurt maar even" |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
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Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 145
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 1:58 am: | |
Hi all! I thought I could make it on Saturday, but now something else came up. So, I'm sorry, but I can't visit this interesting event ... but I'm sure you will still enjoy it ;-) Please make sure that some nice pics will appear on the net ... Grtx, Edvar |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 620
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 4:15 pm: | |
Wow,
we just passed the 200th reaction to this thread!
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 836
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 4:07 pm: | |
Dirk,
See you there!
BTW: Don�t forget your camera!
We want some nice pics!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:03 pm: | |
Jens
i'll be driving directly to the track, plan to be there around 11:00 |
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 7:43 am: | |
heiko, what's up? didn't hear from you for some weeks now? is it possible that you give me a ride on saturday up to N�rburgring?
www.car-elite.com
www.ferrari355.de |
Heiko (Hgparts)
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 6:47 am: | |
ok jens keep me up to date
heiko
hgparts |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 5:51 am: | |
Heiko,
Will call you Mittwoch to inform you about last details. Still think there should be no significant change in planning. Everything is set up so far and remains like planned.
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Heiko (Hgparts)
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 5:23 am: | |
hi jens
we will come and meet like allways at the Hockenheim Ring Rasthof i will talk to Wolfgang also for a time i think like 8.30 at saturday so we should be there at the meeting arround 11.00
heiko
hgparts |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 4:49 am: | |
Hi Uwe,
It is nice to have Harry around indeed. I think that we will be able to learn a lot from him on the track.
Fantastic that you can come too. It is good to have another 328 around.
Just one more week to go!
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 3:53 am: | |
Uwe, Wolfgang and Heiko,
Nice that you want to come! Will mail you the provisional programm as soon as possible. At saturday we will be at the Nordschleife pretty much the whole day for sure. Guess we will be there at around 1100 or so and stay till the track closes at around 1930.
You are all welcome to join us at any point of time.
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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Post Number: 28
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| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 11:54 pm: | |
Hi All,
I'm actually very busy and I'm sorry that I'm not so much online as some of you.
@Jens,
I' think I will come on Saturday (Maybe with FC BaW�). I will contact Heiko or Wolfgang to drive in a convoy to Adenau ,-).
Would you please be so kind to send me all data of the event by EMail? Thank you very much in advance ...
@Ton,
I've read that Harry will join us on the track?
That's fine and I'm happy to meet him again.
With red greetings
Uwe |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 615
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| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 5:59 am: | |
Exactly! |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 814
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 3:50 pm: | |
Guy,
Great! No problem by the way: We don�t want to trash our cars, too, so nobody will blame you for just driving around slowly or just watching the other cars!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 3:34 pm: | |
Guy
sure else e-mail me for further planning on this
i was thinking of driving to that hotel and meet-up with the rest
and another thing, how fast do you drive?
cuz i can't keep up, and i try not to drive to fast anymore, nowadays i stay around 130 km/h in belgium
i got some tickets last year, that i rather don't see again (unless when i got them in a ferrari, then the pain isn't so bad anymore) |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 613
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 3:14 pm: | |
Guy,
I know how you feel. Life can end around the corner.
The same thing happened to me. It also made me think about the unpredictable side of our lives. For that reason I decided to buy my Ferrari now instead of in a couple of years.
Live your life to the max!
Ton |
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
Jens,
If i come i will definately come with the S2000!
Allthough i'm a bit scared to drive it at the Nordschleife!
It's a very difficult track i heared and i don't want to crash my car!
So it would be usefull if i get some hints like you said!
About my best friend: it really s*cks, he was ill for a while but things began to look fine and chances of healing were getting pretty high!
But then suddenly things changed and a week later he died!
It really affected me and made me think about life and how much we should be enjoying it!
Dirk,
As you may have read, i'm driving my S to the ring but we can still drive up there together, i hope you know how to drive!?
Let's hope the weather is fine!
CIAO to you all and see you at the ring!
Guy H |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 808
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 4:26 am: | |
Guy,
First of all I am very sorry to hear from your friend. Already wondered where you are after not seing you online for such a long time.
Glad to hear that you join us! Hopefully more time to chat a bit. Where have you been at sunday in Spa? Ton and me didn�t see you anymore! Anyway if you stay longer this time you will surely get some nice rides with some nice cars! How about bringing your Honda to the Ring? It�s a very good car for that track and you should be really quick with it! Harry our "track instructor" also owns a S2000 and could surely give you some hints!
Anyway: Hope to see you there saturday! Bring good weather!!!!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
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Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:59 pm: | |
Hey guy
i'm really sorry to hear about your friend
and it was too bad that we didn't talked more at Spa
well we could drive together or so, you don't live that far from here, keep in mind i have a slow car ;)
but i'm not sure at what time i will be heading back home that day, i probably won't make it too late, since i still want to go to Zolder the next day
Dirk |
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 11:46 am: | |
Hey Jens and all the others,
Remember me, the guy with the S2000!?
I've been very busy (work, etc,...) and a month ago my best friend died (which really shocked me!) so i didn't have much time to post or follow the news about the meeting!
But i'm still trying to make it on saturday as i said before!
Maybe i can come together with Dirk? Dirk , if you read this...
I'm also looking forward to see the whole V8 range together!!
To bad Bart Bosmans can't come with his fab 360 modena!
So see you all at the Nordschleife!
CIAO
RPM Tifosi |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 4:43 pm: | |
Hi Jens,
Thanks for that, I hadn't realised Manu and gang were not coming, nor Jason and others I seem to recall had been interested. I guess Le Mans the weekend before made it tough for UK FCers to come over to Nurburgring as well.
Regards,
Amar |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:26 pm: | |
Sounds beautiful!
It will be great fun!
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:23 pm: | |
Ton,
That�s very good news indeed!
Looking forward to it! Will email you privately about details!
Just noticed that we will have the whole Ferrari 8 cylinder history at the Ring from 1974 till today:
308
328
348
355
360
and a Porsche 911RS
Together with the 10 to 15 other drivers from Ferrari club BaW� at saturday we will have a nice number of cars together!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:11 pm: | |
Jens,
I have good news! Harry (the very experienced Swedish trackdriver) will join us on saturday (and on sunday for people who are interested). He will be with us the whole day and can show us the tips and tricks of trackdriving. He will even give people the pleasure of enjoying the track, in his lightweight Porsche 911RS, from his empty seat.
I am really looking forward to this event.
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 8:44 am: | |
Hello Amar,
Well, B.Rowe is the only one from the UK coming with his 355. Manu always said that he would bring a whole bunch of people but till now there are no names and no confirmations. I guess we have to "write them off".
I could provide you with Mr. Rowes email so you can arrange something with him for the drive.
I am looking forward to see you again and have some chat and some nice laps at the Nordschleife!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 7:19 am: | |
Hi Jens,
Thanks once again for the great job of organising this, I'm looking forward to it. Might have to adjust the room request since Anna can't come; she has to work while I'm off having my fun! I'll email you offline.
What happened with the other UK based people who were planning on joining - have they dropped out? I was thinking I could have met up with them for the ferry across.
Warm regards,
Amar |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 6:50 am: | |
ROB, ROB, ROB
come on Jens is calling!!!!!!!!!!!
He is the THE master of the European Chat!
Wolfgang
So hopefully he will see it now? |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 6:46 am: | |
Bart,
I asked Rob about the banners two or three times, even mailed him but unfortunately never got one single response!
Guess we have to live without them!
Looking forward to see you all in two weeks!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 5:59 am: | |
Dirk, don't worry about being able to catch up with them, we won't be able to do that aswell
To bad only 8 Fchatters are staying the whole weekend until now, but it will be a memorable weekend anyway.
How many people will have to opportunity (over 10 years, at the 10th meeting with over a 100 people attending) to say they went to the 1st (!) meeting ;)
Btw. Jens, have you heared something about Fchat.com window stickers from Rob? |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 11:44 am: | |
i can make that, i think it's a bit over 2 hours to reach Bonn |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:22 am: | |
Dirk,
Would most probably be around 1000. Enough time to get to the track till 1100 and still have enough sleep and a nice breakfast!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:18 am: | |
that sounds great too, at what time do you plan to leave to hotel to goto the track?
only problem will be then that i can't keep up with you guys ;) |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:31 am: | |
Dirk,
Don�t know what direction you are coming from! If you see the main tribune and the museum of the GP track on the left side when you pass you still have to go a bit to turn left into the street to Nordschleife. If it�s the other way around the street is right just before you see the tribune on the right side.
Anyway the street to NS is very near the only petrol station there and the signs can�t be missed.
BTW: You could as well come to the hotel in Bonn where we start the tour and go with us to the track!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:21 am: | |
great thanks Jens
i plan on driving over in the morning, so i doubt that you guys will be at lunch then
else i will give you a call when i'm there
Last year i just followed the signs and then at a certain point i drove unther the track and saw the parkinglots and the main tribune
so i have to drive a bit further then and pass the museum right? |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 5:24 am: | |
BTW:
Nice to have a talented photographer with us!
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 5:23 am: | |
Dirk,
Just go for the signs saying N�rburgring! The Nordschleife is very near to the GP track. Just before you reach the GP track there is a sign saying "Zufahrt Nordschleife". Go there and you will get directly to the parking lot of the Nordschleife entrance. We will be there all day except perhaps for lunch! Propose you just look out for around twenty red cars parked side by side!
Shouldn�t be a problem to find us, I guess!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
P.S. If there should be problems don�t hesitate to SMS or call via mobile at saturday! |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 5:13 am: | |
Jens
i'll be driving over for a visit on saterday,
but i've only been to the nurnburgring once
so where is the entrance to the Nordschleife excatelly?
or where will you guys be parked?
PS i will have my camera with me ;)
Dirk |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 3:54 pm: | |
Hello everybody,
Just wanted to pop up again to keep you all updated about the meeting!
Provisional Programm:
Thursday:
Till 1500: Individual arrival at hotel
Rheinhotel Dreesen
Around 1800: Corso with the cars to Schumachers cart track where the indoor or outdoor track can be used for some racing with carts to warm up for the next day.
Afterwards or before: Guided tour through the personal Schumacher museum with a collection of some of their F1 cars etc.
At around 2100: Drive back to Bonn to have some K�lsch at a beergarden directly at the river Rhine or at a nice wine yard near the hotel.
Friday:
Drive to the famous Nordschleife of the N�rburgring in a corso via a nice route through the Ahr valley
Around 1000: Guided tour through the big N�rburgring Motorsport Museum at the Grand Prix track
Around 1200: Lunch at a small hotel ("Pistenklause") directly at the Ring
Between 1400 and 1830: Free practise at the Nordschleife
Around 1830: Drive back to Bonn in Corso via the valley of the Ahr which is a nice wine area
Around 2030: Dinner at the "Il Punto" which has been the favourit italian restaurant of Helmut Kohl. The italian owner will definitely organise something nice for some Ferrari tifosi (Safe parking guaranteed!)
Saturday:
Drive to the Nordschleife in a corso
Free Practise the whole day again to really get to know this tremendously difficult track better
Around 1930: Drive back to Bonn
Around 2100: Farewell party at my appartment with an italian Buffet and open end
Sunday:
Individual departure
or visit of Bonn
or free practise at the Nordschleife
Costs:
Hotel:
Rheinhotel Dreesen has offered the following discounted prices:
Superior rooms: Double: 170� Single: 135�
Moderate rooms: Double: 140� Single: 120�
"Dreesen Suite": 240�
Per room per day. These categories are all with direct Rhine view and include a breakfast and a free Minibar!
Ferrari compatible parking lot: 8� per day
Track fee for the Nordschleife:
1 lap: 14 �
5 laps: 56 �
6 laps: 76 �
12laps:143 �
Cart rental:
Single drive at the cart track 9 minutes: 10 �
10 drives a 9 minutes: 90 �
Rental of whole track:
One hour: per cart=62 � with a minimum of 14 carts
N�rburgring museum:
10 � per person with a guided tour
Rest:
Travel expenses, food etc. depends on individual needs.
Internet Sites:
Hotel: www.rheinhoteldreesen.de
N�rburgring: www.nuerburgring.de
Cart track: www.michaelschumacher-kartcenter.de
Perhaps it might be able that some other very experienced swedish Nordschleife driver joins us with his Porsche 911 RS to instruct or show line of track.
Have to talk about that with Ton!
The drive to hotel can be viewed at the homepage of the hotel.
I will be at the hotel to welcome you whenever you arrive. Just in case my mobile: 0170 80 67 268
Additionally I will produce some kind of track guide, programme description and things to do for wifes who want to stay in Bonn etc. for every attendant who stays for the whole weekend.
I still might be able to organise some more rooms at the hotel so everybody who likes to join us is highly welcomed.
Attendance list:
Amar Inam,UK,F360 Modena
Ulf Modig,SV,308qv
Jens Haller,GER,348tb
Becker Cuellar,US, 355 or F360 Modena
Bart Boonacker,NL
Roel de Fouw, NL
Ton Visser,BEL,328GTS
Bernhard Rowe,UK,355 GTB
plus around 10 to 15 other Fcars from Heiko and it�s group at saturday.
If there should be any more questions please don�t hesitate to ask here or shoot me a mail to [email protected]
Well, I guess that�s it for now: Nordschleife will be open for two days, hotel and restaurants are booked, Cart track and museum is open although it�s a bank holiday day. Now we can only pray for good weather!
Keep your fingers crossed!
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
P.S. Please bring your digicams and digital video cams if you should have some! |
Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 6:10 pm: | |
Hi Ton,
don' drink and drive ;-)
I hope to join the meeting at least for one day (Saturday).
Best regards to Belgium ;-)
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Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 6:09 pm: | |
Hallo Peter,
warm wellcome to the F-Chat. It's a pity that I do not read this forum permanently ;-(.
I was in Berlin from Friday to Saturday last week. Maybe we should have met at Budapester Strasse. Maybe next time ;-)
I hope to join the Nurburgring-Meeting, but I'm actually not really sure because of much business doings.
Best regards, Uwe |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 4:02 pm: | |
I always lose count after the first one!
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 3:57 pm: | |
Or two...
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Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 3:44 pm: | |
And have a beer afterwards.
Ton |
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 3:40 pm: | |
it's a shame that you can't make it Bart
i would have loved to hear your Tubi scream |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 11:54 am: | |
Don't worry Bart! If you don't find us we will find you!
Ton |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 11:50 am: | |
Bart,
Don�t worry! Hotel has not so many rooms! You will definitely meet the others sooner or later!
Just kidding of course...
You will like it although the room has no Rhine view and thus is "cheaper"
Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 10:56 am: | |
Bart, To bad you have to cancel, was looking forward to seeing/hearing your 360 on track
Well, maybe next time.
Peter, welcome to the chat.
Nice mondial you got there, must be great to drive it with kids in it.
Jens, great to hear we can have more track-time, really looking forward to see all those cars on the track. Btw, are we in the same "block" aswell as you guys, since we have the "cheaper" rooms ? Already made arrangements to get the days off, so I'll be there for sure.
Thanks for keeping us posted |
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 5:20 am: | |
Jens,
Okay, thanks for that. I very much hope and expect to be there and not to cancel because of urgent work commitments like Bart - have been looking forward to it for months!
See you soon,
Amar |
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