| Author | Message | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 985 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Ulf, no, I don't know that one. I know the S/N of yours that also came from Pierre... ;-) Jack | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi again ! A new question mabe for you Jake Habits ! Do you know the chassinumber of the 275 GTB that Pete Ettmuller raced in 1968 it was gelow and he got it from Pierre Sudan in 67, it was blue then ! Best regards Ciao | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi Eweryone ! I hope you summer has bin nice driving your Ferraris, hope not to hot ! The engin of the GTB is not redy, so no trips att all ! I am going to Switserland 1-5 of october to do some reserch on the GTB history.Do anyone know if there is any store with old Swiss car magazins in Zurich ,Luzern ore Bern, I am going to all 3 places ! I hope I can met Mr S.Zwimpfer and Mr P.Sudan to, but I dont know jet ! Kind regards Ulf Rander from a not so hot Sweden! (It was snowing yestarday 200 km north of Stockholm)Ciao ! | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi Thank you Wolfgang and Wayne fore the welkomme! I am not so god with these internet things but I will try to get some photos of the car new and old of the GTB. I was planing on a trip to Switzerland to go in the Ollon-Villars Hillclimbe in september, but the engin is aut of the car after a head gasket problem, and it was not so easy to fix, so I dont know, Zwimpfer raced there in 65 to a ferst plase in class and also in 67 to a second.It would have bin realy grate to go with the car to Switserland amd also the ferst race for the car since Sudan raced at Monza coppa acs TI 14 june 68. But wat to do old Ferraris are not alvays working! But it has not broken on the road ,and that is moor than I can say abaut the 330 GT I had befor the GTB (it was also a Swiss car it was at the Geneva car motor show in 65 ch 6767 )( I like switserland wery much also,so a Ferrati with swiss history is someting special to me. Newer mind I restord the 330 GT completly but it brock ewer time I drowe it !( I got it in california in 89 in a box and wery expensiwe to) Ciao Ulf Randers Sweden | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2003 |
wolfgang, you are so right, but sometimes it is really frustrating. i mean, love cools down if your wife always has migraine, isn't it ;-) i'm going to anneau du rhin to the yearly track day of my dealer. i don't know about the anniversary of FCD baden-baden (see my other posting on an event calendar). keep me posted about sunday. trevi | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 316 Registered: 3-2003 |
Ermin, I trust with you and the money you have put in your car. But: Its not ONLY a Mondial; its YOUR FERRARI MONDIAL!!! I know a few members from the FCD with F40, F50, Enzo and all the big toys. But this gents are NOT in love with their cars like we love our cars. So, don`care about and keep on driving your dream car! Anneau Du Rhin: I have been there a couple of weeks ago but couldn`drive (was rent by Lotus/Elise Drivers). Are you going there with the FCD Baden-Baden 25th Anniv.? Schwarzwald: I will ask my wife and maybe (50%) we can come accross on sunday lunch time to the Alemannen Hof/Titisee. I will let you know excactly till tomorrow - hopefully we will not be too late. Stay in touch Wolfgang | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2003 |
about reliability: of course i do not expect the reliability of a toyota, but my case is a very bad one even in the ferrari dimensions. with the fortune i have already spent in this car, which is still only a mondial, even if it's extraordinarely beautiful, and its maintenance i could have bought my dream car, a 365 gt4/bb ! or have leased a 355 spyder. | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2003 |
@wolfgang: what happened? business as usual: bige-end bearing, alternator (2 times!!), clutch. the major repairs i had overall in the 4 years: - cats (2 times, but only once fixed) - clutch (2 times) - major gearbox damage - broken gearshift ;-) it's true, nobody could believe it - alternator (4 times) - different electrical problems - timing belt (regular change) - cylinder head and camshaft - bigend bearing etc. (can't remember all) i was on track only once up to now, last year in monza, will be again on july 7th in anneau du rhin. about the black forest: yes, you are welcome. we will meet us at the hotel r�merhof (http://www.gasthausroemerhof.ch/ ) in Arbon at the bodensee (CH) at 10.00 am on sunday morning (departure time!). then we will head to the highway a81 singen/stuttgart for some speed feelings and then exit somewhere to the schwarzwald. we will have lunch at the alemannenhof titisee (see http://www.hotel-alemannenhof.de/ ), but i don't know the exact time. in the afternoon we will head to freiburg i.Br. and have a coffee break. then we will drive home in different groups according to the directions where people are living. if you or others are interested to join, let me know asap in order to arrange for the details. trevi | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 315 Registered: 3-2003 |
Ermin, "......4 repairs in 2 months spending about 5000 euros" Ggggrrrg, what the hell happened??? Are you driving with your car on race tracks? Just a question about Funky Ferrari Owners Switzerland: Are guests welcome for the drive thru the "Black-Forest" on sunday? Wolfgang | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 592 Registered: 12-2002 |
Ouch! That's a lot of money in repairs. But I agree with Jens that those things are not uncommon to Ferrari owners. Looking forward to see the mondial "in vivo" one day. Ton | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 757 Registered: 9-2001 |
Trevi, Sorry to hear that! Had a fatal transmission breakdown half a year ago. Spend a small fortune to fix it. Next is 40000km service later this year (As a Mondial T owner you know: Full engine out!) But hey: If I wanted a reliable daily driver sports car I would have kept my 911!  Still I never looked back after buying my cavalino because there is simply no substitute for a Ferrari IMO! Best wishes to Zug! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2003 |
hi wolfgang and ton thanx for the welcome and the congrats. i apologize for the quality of the pics, they are taken from a video. as i have no experience with cameras and i never owned one, it is always difficult for me to get good pics. i'm living in Zug, between zurich and lucerne, right in the middle of switzerland. the best location for thousands of beautiful drives ;-) my mondial for sure looks very good and is very rare, and thats the only reason i still have it. it is a not a monday-morning make, it is a 2nd of january bit**! i already spent more than 30'000 euros on repairs in the 4 years i have it! this season alone i had already 4 repairs in 2 months spending about 5000 euros. aaargh!! trevi | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2003 |
hi amar yeah...i'm the one with the real bad story ;-) if you plan to come to switzerland let me know, i'm always interested in meeting, that holds for all ferrarichat-members. unfortunately, as i'm a newbie here, i can't make it for n�rburg, i have read the huge thread and it sounds very appealing and professionaly organized. but i'll take it in my mind for next year and will try to motivate the members of our new group "Funky Ferrari Owners Switzerland" to join the meeting, if it is welcomed. this sunday we have our second meeting and are doing a wonderful trip through the black forest. i'll keep you posted if we plan further meetings. trevi | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 311 Registered: 3-2003 |
ups, sorry I forgot: Also a very warm welcome to Sweden! Thats fantastic Ulf. The comunity is growing and getting bigger and bigger. We are very happy to see you with your F 275 GTB here; what a pleasure do drive such a rare car with history. Please feel free to post some pics....the guys here are always hungry for pics. FORZA FERRARI from Germany Wolfgang | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 310 Registered: 3-2003 |
Ermin, a very warm welcome from Germany. Good to see now a Swiss - Ferrari - Driver...the first one on Fchat.com? Wonderful Mondial in a rare & beautiful colour, congratulations. Where (close to which city)does you come from in Switzerland? Enjoy your drive & Fachat. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Amar Inam (Amar360)
Junior Member Username: Amar360 Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2002 |
Ermin, Welcome here and I believe we also "met" on the owners' site when chatting about nice trips through Europe in our Ferraris. I still look forward to driving through Switzerland not too far in the future and meeting you there but meanwhile perhaps we'll meet at the Nurburgring meet? Till then and warm regards, Amar | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1770 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ulf and Ermin, welcome to F-Chat! Ermin, thanks for those links. | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 589 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hi Ermin, Welcome to the club! It is not easy to see the beautiful colour combination of your car! But is sure looks like a beautiful Mondial T cab. Ton | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2003 |
tom your wish shall be my command ;-) trevi    | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3806 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ermin, lets see some more pics of that rare color combo | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2003 |
hi jens, thanx for the warm welcome. yes, you're right, you know me from the owner's sleepy ;-) site. it seems that european owners aren't that active in the internet, especially also the swiss ones (there must be more than 400). i like to be online for general ferrari discussions and especially for meetings and drives with other owners not too far away. thanx, trevi p.s. i own a '89 mondial 3.4 t cab in almost british racing green metallic | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 723 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ermin and Ulf, A very warm welcome to FChat! Glad you joined our "small" european community here. Ermin, I "know" you from Ferrari Owners Site forum, right? I was the one asking for sport exhaust options for the 348. This board is much more active than Ferrari Owners Site so more answers on questions here! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2003 |
hi wayne the site of the official ferrari club in switzerland is: http://www.ferrariclubswitzerland.ch/ if you are interested to participate in non-formal group of swiss owners you may also check the following yahoo!-group: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/funkyferrariowners trevi | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi Jack ! Yes you got the chassinr it is 6785 ! I is realy a help this with internet doing reserch from Sweden is not so easy on a Swiss car! Ciao Ulf ! | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2003 |
Thank you Ermin Trevisan for the adress to P.Sudan I will look it up. I have bin talking to Sudan on the phone but my German is not so god and hes Englinch is not wery god eather so it did not worke to well. I have sent 2 leters to one in 2000 in Englich and one in German in 2001.Marcel Massini talkt to him in 2000 and that was the when we got the most information! I am going to send a leter to him with 10 photos I just faund of him racing my GTB Ch 6785 and 5 of him in a blue GTB from Monza 1000 km 1967 he drove with Zwimpfer. Sure if you met him you can mention it, I dont know how intrested he is in these things? Kind regards Ulf in Sweden | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
New member Username: Trevi Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2003 |
hi ulf check the following website: www.maserati-sudan.ch peter sudan is the owner the official ferrari dealer "central switzerland" in Zug. you may get into contact with him through this website. if it doesn't work, let me know and i'll visit him next saturday (i'm living also in zug). hth, trevi | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 735 Registered: 4-2003 |
Never mind, found it already... 6785. Right? Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 734 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Ulf, what's the Serial Number of your car? Might help in the research. Jack | ||
| Ulf Randers (Uranders)
New member Username: Uranders Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi my name is Ulf Rander and live in Sweden ! I am resercing my Ferrari 275 GTB with a swiss racing history it was raced by the swiss Siegfried Zwimpfer and Pierre Sudan from 1965-68. The car raced 42 times in those years and I have information on most of the races and some photos, but I dont know wery much from these ones!I am looking fore resultlist from of them. (I got many from Automobil Club der Schize but these they did not have)I am also looking for photo arcives and articels in motor magasines from switserland. Her is the races I know wery litle of. 01.08.1965 Cote de Axhamer-Lizum driver S.Zwimpfer DNS start nr 25 10.04.1966 Lorenzweiler driver S.Zimpfer plased 1 start nr ? 07.05.1966 Slalom Wangen driver S.Zwimpfer plased 1 start nr 121 14.07.1968 Monza coppa acs TI driver P.Sudan plased 2 start nr ? This is the last race for the GTB and it wold be wery intresting to se the cars Mr.Sudan raced against on this day 35 years ago ! I met Mr Zwimpfer with Marcel Massini in Switzerland in 2001 fore an wery intresting interveu. But unfortunantly Mr Zwimpfer dont have so much left from this time ! I wold be most graitfol for any information that you may have ! Ciao Ulf | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1268 Registered: 8-2002 |
Thanks, Wolfgang. I sent an email to them. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
New member Username: 53345 Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hello Wayne, I`m not sure but maybe this link can help you to get in contact with Swiss Ferrari drivers. http://www.maranello.ch/ Best Regards Wolfgang | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1255 Registered: 8-2002 |
I can't find a functional website for this club. How does one become a member? | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Junior Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 216 Registered: 9-2002 |
Great story Justin, were did you get it from ? Must have been great for all those members to have such a huge meeting. And real cool of the Enzo owner to loan his car for the meeting, and all those "oldies" so cool. You also got the photo's ? | ||
| Justin Randall Kenyon (Kenyon)
Junior Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 196 Registered: 10-2002 |
1st AGM of Ferrari Club Switzerland story & pics by Marcel Massini 8.3.03 Click here for Ferraris at the AGM Switzerland has seen several Ferrari clubs over the past three decades. Some of these clubs had been officially authorized by the factory, others were rather small groups of enthusiasts and some were more the sort of a loose club of regional Ferraristi. Following the new international marketing strategy of the Ferrari factory in Maranello it was decided that there should be only one official Ferrari club per country. That�s why three years ago the factory instructed their Swiss Ferrari importer in Nyon to form one new Ferrari club, the Ferrari Club Switzerland. It was founded on 17 May 2001. This is now the only factory authorized Ferrari club in the small country in the heart of Europe. All of the previously existing Swiss Ferrari clubs are no longer allowed to use the Ferrari logo, the Ferrari name with the long �F� or the Prancing Horse symbol. A large number of members of the former Ferrari Owners Club Switzerland, the Ferrari Dino Owners Club Switzerland, the Club Ferrari Suisse and the Ferrari Club 1898 (based in the Geneva area) have now become new members of the only official Swiss club. At present the still young FCS has about 410 members. The Swiss importer strongly supports the new club as do most of the ten official Ferrari dealers in Switzerland. Six regional directors have been elected and each of the three different language areas (German, French and Italian) is covered. The first Annual General Meeting was held in Solothurn, conveniently located between Berne and Zurich, on Saturday, 1 March 2003. Almost 200 members arrived on this beautiful day in the historic town. The meeting took place in the former �Horse Dressage Hall�, a huge building situated right next to the �Baseltor� city entrance. Due to the still chilly and unstable weather relatively few of the members arrived in their Ferraris. A total of 19 road-going Ferraris was seen on the parking lot. The annual general meeting saw the confirmation of the president and his committee and Mr. Müller, director of the Swiss importer, also held a short speech. Following the AGM a delicious lunch was served and members were invited to have a look at a special display of carefully selected super rare historic Ferraris of the 250 era. A 1953 Ferrari 250 Mille Miglia Spider Vignale was the earliest car in this interesting show. The second oldest Ferrari on display was Erich Traber�s 250 Europa GT in race trim. This automobile is painted red with a black roof and still regularly entered in the historic challenge series by the 75 year old Swiss collector. From a collection in Zurich came a metallic silvergrey 250 GT LWB Tour de France Berlinetta, also a car that can often be seen in the historic challenge. There was a yellow 1960 competition SWB Berlinetta and a black 250 GT SWB California Spider with open headlights and no air outlets in the front fenders. Right next to it a genuine 250 GTO Series I, darkblue painted and with a lot of English race history. A bronze metallic 250 GT Lusso with black interior completed the group of 250s. The main attraction, however, was a brand new red Ferrari Enzo. This was a US-Version with black seats and had been loaned to the show by a private collector. Many of the Swiss club members hadn�t seen the new Enzo yet and with only a few days before the opening of the Geneva motor show and its official Swiss presentation there it was a good chance to have an early look at Maranello�s latest supercar. Most of the Ferraris in the spectator and member car park were relatively new models. One of these was a virtually brand new 575 M Maranello F1 whose happy new owner had taken delivery just the day before the annual general meeting. Oldest Ferrari seen in the parking lot was a fanatically restored 250 GT Lusso in metallic silvergrey and with a beautiful red leather interior by Luppi of Modena. Also seen were a rare 348 Challenge and a F355 Challenge. The new Ferrari Club Switzerland offers a wide range of local and national activities for its members. It all begins in June 2003 with a golf weekend in the Burgdorf and Emmental area and a visit to the famous Kambly biscuit factory. Mid-August a rallye to Flims is planned as is a trip to Maranello in September 2003 with laps at Fiorano as well. � Marcel Massini 02/03/2003 |