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Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 337
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 3:44 pm:   

Hi Joren,

Welcome to the club! I am also just in the proces of joining the Club Ferrari Belgio.
Hope to see you in June.

Ton
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 3:28 pm:   

Welcome Joren just joined the Ferrari Club Belgio.

Bart
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 3:09 pm:   

Joren
I'm also from Belgium.

BTW are you from that big mercedes garage when you come of the E19 at Mechelen Zuid?
Joren Remans (J_remans)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

Allright, this all sounds great!!! I just announced this event to some people from the Ferrari Club Belgio and I will see if we can get some additional cars through them. I was wondering how many Belgians will attend by now, maybe we can meet up somewhere in Belgium before hitting the road!! Only problem left is; I don't own a Ferrari yet so probably I will clean the road by following in my Benz if I don't find somebody who wants me as a co-driver / sponsor...
Spread the word around and we keep eachother informed!!!!

Forza la Passione!!

Joren REMANS
Mercedes-Benz Mechelen
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 4:09 pm:   

Ton

Count me in then, don't know how i'm gonna do it yet, defenitly for saterday
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

Dirk,

It would be great if you could join us. The more the merrier. Bart Boonacker will also join us as a non-owner. I agree with Jens that the most important factor is the passion.

Come and share the fun (that sounds like a commercial)

Ton
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Thanks Jens
I would love to come and probably will then
the Nurnburgring is only 300 kms away, and on that weekend there aren't really that great events going on somewhere else
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 403
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:17 am:   

Dirk,

Of course everybody who shares the "passione" with us is welcome. There are already some non-owners attending so come along if you like...



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller


Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:05 am:   

Hy guys
i was wondering
are ferrari-freaks that don't own a ferrari also welcome to the party?
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 401
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:01 am:   

Ton,

With some luck and good weather there could be more than 20 Ferraris showing up at the Nordschleife on the 21th of june.
Surely a nice motive for a picture if all of them are parked side by side :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 332
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 9:51 am:   

It sounds like saturday will turn into something big! How many Ferrari's? I have lost count!

Ton
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   

Jens,

I think that Amar is right! If the weather is nice probably more people want to join at the last minute. It is impossible to wait for that. Even with a minimum of 10 (!) Fcars the meeting will be a succes.

Ton
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 1:28 pm:   

Jens, thanks for the update. I'm sure more people will join in as weather improves and we get closer to the time. I saw that some people from Pistonheads may also be coming over from the UK. Thanks and see you again soon!
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 374
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 10:55 am:   

Amar,

Glad to hear from you again! Sadly I am also very,very busy as well at the moment. :-(
What I can tell you right now is that everything is going to be like we planned. I will make the appointment with hotel, Ring management and everything somewhere next week since I hope that I won�t be as busy as now.
We still "only" got around 10 Fcars togehter although at saturday another 10 to 15 Ferrari drivers from the south of Germany want to join for the Nordschleife (Wolfgang, Heiko and Sebastian from this board for example).
Manu also promised to bring several of his mates with Fcars to the meeting but couldn�t tell until end of march.
I promise to post definite prices, times etc. about the whole thing next week at this thread!



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 8:27 am:   

Amar,

Scroll 14 posts down and you will see Jens's plan. He is still working on the hotel but I have seen both and they are both good choices.

Exactly 90 more days to go!

Ton
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 5:19 am:   

Hi Jens,

Long time no speak, I have been travelling and swamped with work. What news about our Nurburgring meet - are the dates certain and do you have further news about how many are coming, where we are staying, etc?

I see that many new people have joined the European group lately - welcome and hello to everybody! Not bad considering this section was started only 4 months ago and it's already so popular. Again I'm really looking forward to meeting everybody in June and to having some great fun together on the track and off it.

It's sunny here in London and hopefully it will be nice weather for some fun driving this weekend after too many weeks of relative inactivity for the 360...

A presto,
Amar
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 616
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 8:53 am:   

So there will only be 360 challenges ? and no historical races ?

But anyway , there should be a lot of Private ferraris no ?
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   

I think that's not true, sorry to disappoint you, Andrew. What you mean is the anual Challenge Day in August, but that's not the same as the Racing Days.

This event only takes place every second year, then combined with the Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge. Know that from Ferrari Germany, should be the truth.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 612
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 1:38 pm:   

They say that there will be a Ferrari Days @ the NRing in august .

http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/2000.dec.01.news/index.html

And this is not the Modena Motorsport one.
I hope its true !
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 1:34 pm:   

Jens , first let me thank you for your invitation .Its very kind of you ! If i can go to the ring , i will let you know with advance so we can organise this.
About the second event organised by Ferrari it self , i think i read that on barchetta.cc .I have to check that though to be sure .

I hope i can make it again this year as last year was an awesome event , too bad we didnt meet though !

Thanks again !

Andrew
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   

Sebastian,

Would be nice to see you at our meeting or at the Modena Motorsport event.
Spoke to Heiko yesterday and he told me that it might be possible that some of your folks from BW are coming at saturday to join us for the day with their Fcars. Perhaps you would like to come as well? All of you are welcomed for sure!
As soon as I get the invitation from Maranello Motorsport I could contact you. Their won�t be any special programm though. Just the different track sessions (F1, Prototypes, Normal Ferraris, Classic Ferraris etc.) and a Concours d'Elegance price for the best classical Ferrari.



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 11:32 am:   

Jens, you're right - the next Ferrari Racing Days at Nürburgring will be - sad but true - in 2004. The 2003 event was great...but I think that your organised program can even more convince.

Will contact you again for more information about this Modena event. Would like to go there�
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 11:04 am:   

Ton, I think I will be there Thursday and Friday, since it's almost impossible for me to get free from work @ saturday and financially it isn't possible to go three days.
And I wanted to join everyone on the kart track of MS, been there once but that was only when we were looking for Ralf's outdoor track to kart.
You'll be there everyday ?
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 9:05 am:   

Andrew,

Indeed there will be an event organised from Modena Motorsports at the 23th to 24th of july this year.
I will be there since there is the possibility to drive on the Grand Prix track for both days with your Ferrari (Just Ferraris and Maseratis are allowed on the track).
I have been at their event last year and it was great since there are around 20 Formula One Ferraris from Jo Volantens Ascari car up to Schumacher F1 cars from 1998 etc which are actually really driven by their owners on the track!
It�s absolutely cool to get to these cars so close since there is no restriction to the paddock.
Last year there was also the Kelleners Porsche team with it�s prototype racecars, a damn fast McLaren F1 GT and of course a F50 and a F40 LM as well as the Maranello Motors F360 Challenge team who took the clients on rides with the F360 Challenges.
All in all a great fun event although you need invitation who normally only clients or fellow Ferrari owners get.
Again: If you want to come just contact me before and I can manage to get you in for sure.
About the official Ferrari days I am not so sure though. As far as I know they are only organised every two years so I think Ferrari Germany is not doing anything at the Nürburgring this year!




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 216
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 8:01 am:   

Bart,

Great to hear that you will be there for two days! Friday and saturday? We will definitely have fun.

Ton
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 7:52 am:   

I read that there are two F day at the ring this year ? One official and the other sponsored by Modena motor ( smthg like that ) ?
Anyone one going to both ?
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 3:00 pm:   

There we go!

The date is set! I am very curious to meet you all.

Ton
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   

Jens, you've got mail :-)

I'll be there for 2 days, already saving now.
It's a can't-be-missed-event, so I'll sure be there.

Once again, thanks a lot for setting this up, would great to meet you all and your Ferrari's off course :-)
Manu (Manu)
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:37 am:   

Jens,

I'm being run off my feet - I have passed details of the event (including the email you sent me to my UK Ferrari crew - most of which are already signed up).

I'll email you more fully later!

You put your Tubi on yet :-) ????
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 269
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:12 am:   

Hello everybody,

The definite date for the meeting is now set: 19th to 22th of June,2003
This is the decision of the people who wanted to take part and told me so via mail.
Since the times for free practise at the Nordschleife are a little bit shorter at friday I slightly changed the programm at that day.
Once again I will show you how it might look like:

Provisional Programm:

Thursday:

Till 1500: Individual arrival at hotel
Rheinhotel Dreesen or
G�stehaus Petersberg
Around 1630: Corso with the cars to Schumachers cart track where the indoor track can be used for some racing with carts to warm up for the next day.
Afterwards or before: Guided tour through the personal Schumacher museum with a collection of some of their F1 cars etc.
At around 2100: Drive back to Bonn to have some K�lsch at a beergarden directly at the river Rhine or at a nice wine yard near the hotel.

Friday:

Drive to the famous Nordschleife of the Nürburgring in a corso via a nice route through the Ahr valley
Lunch at Steinheuers Restaurant in the middle of the Ahrtal in Bad Neuenahr (2 Michelin Star restaurant)
Around 1500: Guided tour through the big Nürburgring Motorsport Museum at the Grand Prix track
Between 1730 and 1930: Free practise at the Nordschleife
Around 1800: Drive back to Bonn in Corso via the valley of the Ahr which is a nice wine area
Around 2030: Dinner at the "Il Punto" which has been the favourit italian restaurant of Helmut Kohl. The italian owner will definitely organise something nice for some Ferrari tifosi

Saturday:

Drive to the Nordschleife in a corso
Free Practise the whole day again to really get to know this tremendously difficult track better
Around 1600: Drive back to Bonn with a small halt at the most well known wine yard of the Ahr the "Deutzerhof" with a small wine degustation if possible
Around 2100: Farewell party at my appartment with an italian Buffet and open end

Sunday:

Individual departure
or visit of the famous Beethoven Museum in Bonn
or The small but nice Von Trips Racing museum in Kerpen
or Free practise at the Nordschleife

Costs:

Hotel: G�stehaus Petersberg (5 Star hotel) or
Rheinhotel Dreesen (4 Star hotel)
Costs should be around 130 Euro per day and room incl breakfast. Group discount
is possible so the more people attending the cheaper it will get

Track fee:
1 lap: 14 Euro
5 laps: 56 Euro
12 laps: 143 Euro
Again it might be possible to get a group discount.

Travel expenses, food, drinks, etc:
Depends, museums should be around 5 Euro, cart rental
around 80 Euro.


What I now need is the definite confirmation of the people who want to attend to arrange or talk about group discounts with hotels, museums, restaurants etc.
So everybody who wants to attend please shoot me a very short mail to let me know (Yes, I know several have done that before but now it�s getting serious!).
As I said before we have around 15 Ferraris and their owners plus guests who are interested. Although size doesn�t matter it would be great to have a group with around 20 Fcars so there are still some places for interested Fchat members...




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller


Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   

Mark,

Thanks for the fantastic offer! I will let you know soon. If I will go to Spa on the 26th I will definitely bring the 328 to show it!

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:09 pm:   

Ton

I understand, if you get the chance I learned on a disused Airfield where there was nothing to hit if you overstep the limit, you will find the 328 a dream though, very predictable and nimble, more so in my opinion than the 355

If you are free on 26th feel free to come to Spa for passenger rides, I know 40 of the drivers going so you could have rides in Ferrari, Porsche, Caterham,TVR, Noble etc etc
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 1:14 pm:   

Mark,

Thanks for the offer but I am not sure yet. I just bought my first Ferrari and I am a little scared to take it on a circuit. I have heard all the stories about the addictive side of trackdays but I also have the fear of ruining my car because of improper use. Maybe I should learn to drive it on a track first?

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Post Number: 147
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:06 pm:   

Ton

no it's not an FOC day, it and 27th are being run by Autotrack, As I said I've booked through Easytrack in the UK, are you interested in a place?
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 1:55 pm:   

Mark,

Is the 26th reserved for FOC UK only?

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 5:23 am:   

Ton

I'm a bit of a trackday fan so keep an eye on whats going on

there are two sites that list all UK days and European days that are organised by UK companies

www.pistonheads.com
www.circuitdriver.com

I won't be at Spa on 27th as I need at least that day to drive down to Austria for the Wednesday, I will be there all day on 26th though

Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 3:37 pm:   

Mark,

Where do you find all this kind trackday information? Are you coming over for the trackday at Spa on april 27th?

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

Ton

it's a trackday, not Ferrari specific 80 places available, 54 on track at once I think, I've booked through Easytrack.co.uk as part of their tour also to the A1 Ring. The day at Spa is actually being run by Autotrack and they are at Spa on 27th as well, I can't trace their website at the moment but will do so if I can find it., think the cost is around �175 for each day

There's also some days coming up in September/October for around the same price
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 4:01 am:   

Mark,

Tell me more about the 26th? Are there any special things going on the 26th?

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 2:59 pm:   

24th /25th May would be perfect for me as i'm driving Spa on 26th, anybody else fancy it? I then drive to Austria on 27th for a trackday at the A1 Ring on 28th

As before unfortunately I can't make dates in June unless it's the weekend of 31st May/ 1st June
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 4:19 pm:   

Jason,

You "islandpeople" might as well rent a whole boat by now for your trip to the continent. It is great to hear that so many people from the UK are crossing the channel for the FChat Meeting. I am looking forward to talking to all of you in May/June.

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 3:20 pm:   

Jason,

Welcome to Ferrarichat! Great you want to join us for the meeting.
Of course everybody who likes can attend our meeting so if your friend wants to join us he is welcomed for sure.
I will send detailed mail as soon as possible. Have checked several hotels yet and will make the final decision about it in some days. Think I will follow Amars advice and choose a hotel slightly outside.
If you should have any questions about the meeting don�t hesitate to ask or mail!


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Jason Thiel (Jason360)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   

Hi Jens, I have just joined this site on the advice of Amar.
The trip looks great and I will definately be coming along if its in June. The May dates are out for me as I'm on holiday
Plus the June date is only a week after the yrly pilgrimage down to LeMans......Fantastic!!!
Was wondering if this is a pure Ferrari trip, I have a mate who might want to come who presently has a 996 but by June will be the owner of either a 996 Turbo or a Ghini Diablo SV
Looking fwd to seeing the final trip deets!
Steve Holden (Sf_348)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   

Hi all, Jens,with me working the holiday buisness May could be tough as it's a busy period over the uk bank holiday weekend .I'll do my best especially as the 26th is my birthday!
keep me posted.Hope i can get my handling probs sorted ok , it's darned difficault when you live 1500 klms from your car!!!!
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   

Jens,

It was a great time in Maranello and nice meeting you! Sounds like you had fun on the drive back, better than the snowy trip down. And the comments about the F2003-GA are universally great - it should be another special car!

Looking forward to the details of our Nurburgring meet...

Ciao,
Amar
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 1:22 pm:   

OK Jens,

Standing by!!

Good to hear that you had such a great time in Italy.

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 9:25 pm:   

Hi everybody,

I am back from Maranello now! Presentation was quite impressive although all people were only speaking italian.
Thanks Amar for making this possible on such a short time for me! :-)
Really a nice trip to Italy for me!
Route back was fantastic! Nice weather, blue skies, white mountains in switzerland especially at Lugano, Bellinzona and at Vierwaldst�ttersee near Luzern.
Before I left I went to Galleria Ferrari which was quite nice: They even showed the parts which broke inside of my 348�s transmission!
Did the route from Maranello to Bonn in seven hours and thirty minutes! Really good with a BMW Z3 with 140hp.
Anyway back to the main topic! During this week I willl send all of the 100 european Ferrarichat members a mail with all the exact data about the meeting.
Everybody who is actually interested should tell me which time of the two he/she prefers.
The majority will decide then whether we will choose May or June for the meeting!
All other details will be given via the mail as well!


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 7:18 am:   

Helmut, maybe it's a good thing to open up a new tread about this meeting, because this was a tread specially for the FerrariChat meeting so everything could be arranged properly by Jens.

For your meeting, I'd love to be there but I'm a non owner/mechanic/co-driver so it aint gonna happen for me :-(
Helmut Schnug (Ferrari_e_basta)
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Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 3:17 am:   

Hello chaps
I hope to welcome you also to our very special Ferrari Track Days to gether with about 20 Formula One Cars, a huge number of outstanding classic and modern Ferraris and Jacky Ickx.
It will happen on Wednesday 23 + Thursday 24 of July. Please ask for details. There will be no
barriers but you have to ask for invitation. This
event is only for owners + codriver and/or mechanics, not for common spectators. That will guarantee more fun! We will have participants from
many countries like the UK, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Switzerland....come and join us.
You can drive your Ferrari several hours on the GP-circuit in several classes: modern Ferraris, classic Ferraris up to 1973, Formula One Cars and
some outstanding sportscars of different marques.
I would help to get HOTEL or B&B near the "Ring".
[email protected]
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   

Although I have to admit that most of the times the weather is better at the end of May then at the end of June.

Ton
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 3:53 pm:   

Jens,

Every date is ok as long as it isn't in August.

Bart
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   

I haven't got any favorite days, so I'll go with the flow.
As long as it still takes place then I'll be there, 1 or 2 days for sure
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 146
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Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 3:09 pm:   

Jens,

I only have may 24th and 25th available. That way I would unfortunately miss half the event! So my preference would still be June. Why don't we plan a nice long tour on friday through the German/Dutch/Belgian countryside with some nice stops for lunch and/or some drinks at scenic places. Then we could drive the Nordschleife on saturday. I will be very happy to help you with the organization for this friday tour.

But of course the majority decides. I am really curious what the date will be.

Ton
Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 7:13 pm:   

Jens, I prefer June I don't think I can make it in May.
Ulf
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 4:10 pm:   

Hi Jens,

May 22-25 may be great for me. The 26th is a Bank Holiday in the UK, so if Nurburgring is open Sunday we could do all day there and go back Monday.

Ciao,
Amar
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 3:56 pm:   

OK guys,

The opening times for the Nordschleife are out!
We could stay with the time 19th to 22th of june. Only problem is that on friday the opening time will be just from 1715 to 1930 (Would rearrange the schedule to fit with these times, of course!) Saturday and sunday the track is open the whole day!

After checking out the other times we could also switch to the 22th to 25th of May, 2003. At this time the track would be open to the public use friday and saturday for the whole day.

For me both times are fine so I think you should decide what time you are prefering!
Any opinions or preferences?
What about Martin and Mark Collins? Perhaps you could arrange to come up with us when switching to the May times?



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 213
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Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 4:37 am:   

Steve,

Thank you! Glad you like the programm! To organise this is actually lots of fun and much better than the usual engineering things I am occupated with the whole day. Really looking forward to meet all of you, drive around with the Ferraris and talk cars in the evennings at some nice places.




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Steve Holden (Sf_348)
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Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:45 am:   

Jens , what a brilliant job , i think you may have found yourself a new vocation !!
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 7:19 am:   

Mark,

Sounds great! Standing by!!

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 3:31 pm:   

Jens, Ton

We are staying at Grand Hotel Schloss Bensburg

The trip has been organised by one of the Owners' club members together with one of the UK dealers, I will ask if they could perhaps organise some more rooms/ dinner places for the Hotel, I'll let you know
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 100
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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   

Mark,

Is there a possibility that more Ferrari's meet the group on the 4th or 5th? Or is it more or less a private meeting?

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 2:03 pm:   

Mark,

You mean Burg Bensberg, right? A very nice place to stay.
If this is possible you can definitely sign me up for the 4th and 5th of July. Cologne is just around the corner for me.
Would be great to meet up with all the others!


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Post Number: 92
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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 1:21 pm:   

Jens

if I can't maybe we might meet up on the tour I'm doing plus the chance to meet 49 other owners and their partners!, rough details of overnight stops below

27th June Paris
28th June Lausanne
29th June Interlaken
30th June Lugano
1st July St Moritz
2nd July Lindau Island (Lake Constance)
3rd July Baden Baden
4th/ 5th July Bensburg (Nr Cologne)
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 197
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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   

Mark,

Sad you can�t come! Perhaps you can still manage to come over for at least one day.
Wish you good fun at your other meetings. Sounding geat indeed



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 98
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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 11:52 am:   

Mark,

50 other Ferrari's?
Tell us more! Where are you going?

Ton
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 8:41 am:   

Jens

I'm going to try and reorganise things but unfortunately I may not be able ot make those dates, I'm in Austria with the car in early June for the A1 ring then the week after your plan I leave for a 10 day tour of Europe with 50 other UK Ferraris!
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   

Ton,

I'll check next week if we can have the track and discuss the price.

Bart
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 91
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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 2:59 pm:   

Bart,

Do you have any more information about Zolder?
Is a combination possible?

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   

Martin,

What a shame! Sad you can�t get it to the meeting.
Since Luigi Gatti wants to attend as well we now have following provisional attendance list:

Amar Inam,UK,F360 Modena
Luuk Uiterwijk;NL,348tb
Ulf Modig,SV,308qv
Kevin Johnson,UK,F360 Modena
Eli Latif,UK,F355 Spider
Simon Campbell,UK,400
Richard Lawford,UK,F360 Modena
Jens Haller,GER,348tb
Luigi Gatti,SUI,F360 Modena or F360 Stradale
Becker Cuellar,US
Manu,UK
Ross Koller,UK,512TR
Mark Collins,UK,F355
Steve Holden,UK,348ts
Mark Pautz,UK,328GTS
Marcel Cup,NL,348ts
Bart Boonacker,NL
Bart Bosmans,BEL,F360 Modena?
Ton Visser,BEL,328GTS?

19 people (plus guests) and 16 Ferraris so far! Not bad for the beginning!

Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 4:36 am:   

Damn,
I will miss that I guess.
Marion has a summit in Berlin the last week of May. She is off that Friday and will join me in Monaco for the GP. We will them drive over to Maranello and do the tour and drive through Tuscany. I had hoped for the weekend after the GP Monaco. That would have been a nice finish of a tour.
Next time?
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 4:01 am:   

Bart,

Of course you can bring a friend or eventually girlfriend with you!
The more the better!
The Zolder fee isn�t that high compared to the Nürburgring Grand Prix track. Nevertheless we still need some guests who definitely want to pay for Zolder to make it affordable.
Let�s wait and see.


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 3:52 am:   

Jens, great job, well arranged plan.

I hope that by June I got some spare money left so I can stay 2 days, 3 days will probably be out of the question. I'd love to stay the 19th and 20th.
I'd love to go to the MS-kart track @ Kerpen, I've already been there once but it was closed that morning and we had to continue to the outdoor track.

You can already sign me up for the 20th, because I really want to attend the meeting on the Nordschleife. I hope I can get my father to sponsor me a bit so I'll be able to stay the 19th aswell. I'll try to arrange it as soon as possible and then I'll let you know.

Would it also be ok if I brought a friend with me ? or maybe by that time a girlfriend who loves Ferrari's :-)

btw. The website of Zolder said that the rent for 1 day was � 7260,- and then the sound was limited to 95 db.
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 3:42 am:   

Amar,

Actually the G�stehaus Petersberg (This is the hotel where the two Afghanistan peace summits where held)and the Rheinhotel Dreesen are slightly outside of Bonn.

Nevetheless Bonn is a fairly small city so traffic jams aren�t that bad.

It is really much fun to organise the event for me (Better than to work instead :-))

May I propose that all people on the provisional attendance list give me an additional "Yes" here at that thread when they know that they definitely want to take part? (Except for Ton and Amar from whom I know they want to come!)
Would be great for the planning (Group discount, guided tours etc.)to have a rough number of people and cars.


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller

Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 3:31 am:   

Jens,

It is amazing - all this effort you are making and the things you are organizing! Many thanks once again.

The programme sounds excellent and varied. One small suggestion is to find a hotel slightly outside Bonn, maybe a charming country hotel in a location that helps us escape rush-hour city traffic.

A presto,
Amar
TomD (Tifosi)
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Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 4:30 pm:   

yeah, rob did you ever get the banners - I want to put them on my car at FCA events
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 4:23 pm:   

Ton,

I will also produce a personal programm brochure for everyone with a very detailed track description of the Nordschleife, the programm, profiles of the people who attend etc. Can do that my own with the computer. As soon as I have some definite "Yes" answers from all people in the next months I will produce them.

Next I will ask my local Ferrari dealer if he wants to support the meeting in any way. If we get together enough cars he might perhaps do.

Some month I will also call "Ferrari World" magazine of Germany whether they are interested to do a small article about the meeting.

Finally Rob could perhaps send us some Ferrarichat banners which could be placed at the top of the front windshield of the Ferraris to do some promotion for the site.

Then I will also talk to the Count von Trips foundation whether it would be possible to get a guided tour through the von Trips castle and the museum which is really nice.

Well as you can see I have some more ideas in mind. Think I will keep some for myself to suprise you all at the meeting :-)


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 88
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

Jens,

Good job! Fantastic programme.
I was just thinking about the 9 UK Ferrari's on the boat from England. That must already have some impact.
Driving in corso with 15 Ferrari's through Bonn will also be a necktwister.
The car part will be absolutely great and the social programme sounds fantastic (beer, wine, pasta and party). What else is there to wish for?
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 189
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 1:40 pm:   

Tom,

Thank you very much! Hope everybody likes the programm and we get together lots of people and hopefully no rain and bad weather...


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
TomD (Tifosi)
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   

man- that sounds like a blast - great job pulling it together - hopefully a lot of guys participate
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

Hello everybody,
I just wanted to inform you about my level of planning. Now to the facts and programm:

Provisional date: 19th to 22th of June 2003

Provisional Programm:

19th of June 2003:
Till 1500: Individual arrival at hotel
Hilton Bonn or
Bristol Hotel Bonn or
Rheinhotel Dreesen or
G�stehaus Petersberg
Will check out group prices and best
suitability for the cars
Around 1630: Corso with the cars to Schumachers cart track where the indoor track can be used for some racing with carts to warm up for the next day.
Afterwards or before: Guided tour through the personal Schumacher museum with a collection of some of their F1 cars etc.
At around 2100: Drive back to Bonn to have some K�lsch at a beergarden directly at the river Rhine

20th of june 2003:
Drive to the famous Nordschleife of the Nürburgring in a corso via the Autobahn
Free practise at the Nordschleife (Free access so there will be others as well!)
One lap now costs 14 Euro with 12 lap cards for one day around 150 Euro
(Will try to get day cards with group discount)
Around 1600: Guided tour through the big Nürburgring Motorsport Museum at the Grand Prix track
Around 1800: Drive back to Bonn in Corso via the valley of the Ahr which is a nice wine area
Around 2030: Dinner at the "Il Punto" which has been the favourit italian restaurant of Helmut Kohl. The italian owner will definitely organise something nice for some Ferrari tifosi

21th of june 2003:
Drive to the Nordschleife in a corso
Free Practise the whole day again to really get to know this tremendously difficult track better (I fear one day will definitely not be enough)
Around 1600: Drive back to Bonn with a small halt at the most well known wine yard of the Ahr the "Deutzerhof" with a small wine degustation if possible
Around 2100: Farewell party at my appartment with an italian Buffet and open end

Sunday 22th of june:
Individual departure
Could organise a guided tour through the birthplace of Ludwig van Beethoven the most famous native Bonner yet

Costs:
Hotel: Around 100-130 Euro per day including breakfast (Depends on how many people attend= group discount)
Track fee: Depends on how much you want to drive. Max around 150 Euro per day
Travel expenses, food, drinks: Depends

Provisional attendance list (in no particular order):
Amar Inam,UK,F360 Modena
Luuk Uiterwijk;NL,348tb
Ulf Modig,SV,308qv
Kevin Johnson,UK,F360 Modena
Eli Latif,UK,F355 Spider
Simon Campbell,UK,400
Richard Lawford,UK,F360 Modena
Jens Haller,GER,348tb
Martin,US
Becker Cuellar,US
Manu,UK
Ross Koller,UK,512TR
Mark Collins,UK,F355
Steve Holden,UK,348ts
Mark Pautz,UK,328GTS
Marcel Cup,NL,348ts
Bart Boonacker,NL
Bart Bosmans,BEL,F360 Modena?
Ton Visser,BEL,328GTS?

This is just a provisional list I have got from one of the last threads.
Who is interested as well?
The more the better!
The Zolder thing can be talked about when we know how many people definitely want to attend and how much the rent of the track costs IMO because otherwise costs could go through the roof very fast for everybody.
Any more questions please contact me!



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller

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