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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 594
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 5:06 am:   

Amar,

With confirming me via mail that you come a room was already reserved by me for you (and the others who confirmed).
If you can�t come you just tell me so till three days before the meeting (16.6.2003) and I will cancel the room without any costs for you!
Hope you all agree with this! Also I hope that no more cancellations need to be done by me anymore. :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Username: Lion315

Post Number: 540
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 3:57 am:   

Bart,

That is very unfortunate. Hope to see you soon at another meeting.

Ton
Amar Inam (Amar360)
Junior Member
Username: Amar360

Post Number: 199
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 2:22 am:   

Bart,

Sorry to hear you can't make it, I was looking forward to meeting and sharing experiences of the 360. Another time hopefully...

Jens,

Good news about more time Friday on the track. By the way is the hotel holding a block of rooms for us or do reservations need to be confirmed before they're gone?

Ciao,
Amar
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 581
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 3:55 pm:   

Bart,

I am really sorry to hear that but it�s no problem to cancel! Thanks for the early notice! Good luck for your business trip. Hope to see you soon at another meeting to talk a bit more. :-)


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller




P.S. Where have you been on sunday at Spa? We saw your car at the paddock but couldn�t reach you via mobile! Quite sad since we could do free laps on both days! Well, anyway: Next time for sure!
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 2:14 pm:   

Jens,

We are not able to make it for the meeting
(business trip to the US)

Bart
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Username: Malfark

Post Number: 230
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   

Hi Peter,

Welcome to F-Chat from me too. I am frequently in the Berlin area and will let you know when next I am in the vacinity. Beautiful car you have there...and nice beds too!

Cheers, MARK
Peter Pütz (Pp_berlin)
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 3:01 am:   

Ton,
the boys are 5 and 6.
The back Seats are perfect for children at this age. They always have a lot of fun when driving.
The Mondial could be a little faster, most fun is to drive around corners, like Kart driving !!

Today is perfect weather, we will drive a little

Peter
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 542
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   

Ton,

Well, we did about five or six laps and the track was improving from one to the other. It seems to dry off quite qickly but it was strange to have light rain at one part of the track while at other parts it was totally dry.
Can only happen on long tracks in hillside areas like the Eifel or the Ardennes.
Nevertheless quite interesting to compare the lines and speeds of yourself with another driver.



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Username: Lion315

Post Number: 505
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Hi Jens,

Good to hear that nothing happened on the wet track. I know that the 911RS that you are talking about has almost slicks. How many laps did you do?

Ton

PS very good news about friday!
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 537
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:39 am:   

Hello everybody,

We have a very lucky change in timetables at the Nürburgring for friday, the 20th of june, 2003:

The lap times for that day have been changed: While it was planned to open the track on that day only from 17.15 to 19.30 it will now be open from 8.00 to 19.30 which means the whole day!!!

Not bad because we gain nearly one more track day through this change. Now let�s finally hope for good weather. Drove as passenger in a Porsche 911 RS last wednesday when it was very wet. Quite nasty...(and our nice red toys would get wet :-))



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 502
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 1:51 pm:   

Hi Peter,

Great that you also want to attend the meeting. Of course your friend is very welcome too.
How old are your boys. Do they fit well in the rear seats? How do you like your Mondial?

Ton
Peter Pütz (Pp_berlin)
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Username: Pp_berlin

Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 6:03 am:   

Hello Ton,
thank�s for the welcome.
Nice Boy !
I have two a little bit older, thats the reason for the Mondial (2+2seats).

I will come to the meeting, maybe with a friend (308 GTS QV)

Nice 1. May to all

Peter
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Username: Lion315

Post Number: 498
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 4:39 am:   

Hi Peter,

The little boy is my son. He is sitting in a black Barchetta that I had for two weeks.
Will you also join the Ferrarichat meeting in June?

Ton
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Username: 53345

Post Number: 227
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 3:10 am:   

Peter,

also a very warm welcome on board. Great to see that the European section is growing and growing.
Congratulation, you have a real beautiful Mondial!
Well, I`m sure you are not the one and only from Berlin and surrounding BUT the first on fchat.com!
So, hopefully more and more will see and join this forum.

Wolfgang

FORZA FERRARI
Peter Pütz (Pp_berlin)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:25 pm:   

Jens,
Good Idea, I try, but it seems that there is nobody from Berlin.

Ton and Jack,
thank you for your welcome.
I see that You Ton have a "big" driver for your F-car.

Peter
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 534
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:13 pm:   

Peter,

I am living in Bonn and Pütz is a very common name in the Rheinland. I should have noticed :-)
Anyway I don�t know any Berlin members but perhaps you just try to do a search with the Members List option and the searchword "Berlin".
I think I can remeber someone from Berlin but I am pretty sure that he was never very active at FChat (=Karteileiche :-))




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 289
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:07 pm:   

Jens,

>>>Seems to me you live in Germany...

Nope, I live in the west of The Netherlands but do have visited the odd race and karting track here and there... ;-)

I actually ran into the now late Elisabeth Schumacher in Kerpen once. I still have a stack of the posters that were produced from her personal photo's (but must admit that I am totally NO fan of MS, also see one of my other posts for that)

>>>Are you dutch? Your name sounds so english / american...

Totally Dutch with some German ancestors but the name does have a nice "anglo" ring to it doesn't it?

Best,
Jack
Peter Pütz (Pp_berlin)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   

Jens,
thank you for the fast answer.
It�s a good Idea to do a Trip to the Nürburgring.


Do You know Chatmembers from Berlin/Brandenburg ?

P.S. - visited place: I�m born there, now living in Berlin, but often in Kerpen.

Peter

Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 533
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:02 pm:   

Jack,

You know the game!!!
Seems to me you live in Germany...
Are you dutch? Your name sounds so english/american...




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Username: Lion315

Post Number: 497
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 4:01 pm:   

Hi Peter,

Welcome at Fchat! At this site you can post all your questions and remarks.

Nice Mondial indeed.

Ton
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 288
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 3:58 pm:   

Hi Peter,

welcome!

>>>and I see that you already visited a place we will also see at our meeting

Yep, looks like Kerpen to me!

Jack
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 531
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 3:49 pm:   

Peter,

A very warm welcome to FChat! Another german member: Very nice :-)
The meeting takes place from 19th of june till 22th of june, 2003.
Programm and prices are like mentioned when scrolling down the thread a bit!
Would be really nice to meet you there. If you should have questions don�t hesitate to mail me privately and I will gladly answer all your questions in german!




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller




P.S. Very nice black Mondial you got there and I see that you already visited a place we will also see at our meeting :-)
Peter Pütz (Pp_berlin)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 3:41 pm:   

Hello to ALL,
i am new here in this forum.
I always read about a meeting at nürburgring in june, but cannot find a DATE.
Is it a private meeting, or can You tell me the Date ?

Peter
Amar Inam (Amar360)
Junior Member
Username: Amar360

Post Number: 194
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 6:42 am:   

Jens,

I get your point. However, look at it in a different way:

- Maybe driving the 360 and 575 will make you want them even more and you'll work even harder!

- What you learn in the Pilota about handling and controlling a car, including managing skids etc, as well as driving on a track, help you enjoy any Ferrari model more.

A presto,
Amar
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 259
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 6:10 pm:   

For newbies to the Nordschleife I would recommend reading www.nurburgring.org.uk .

They have a great "first time" section.

(Was probably already posted before but wanted to mention it anyway).

Jack
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 525
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:53 pm:   

Amar,

I guess there are several problems:

If I drive a 360 or a 575M I am pretty sure that I will notice how poorly my good old 348 handles.
This will result in the urgent wish to own and buy one of those immediately.
Together with the costs for the course the weekend could really become very expensive if you see it this way :-)
Seriously: I would rather consider a course where I can only drive my own car to really get to know it to perfection.
Experiences at the Nordschleife showed me that I don�t really know how my car behaves when I step over the limit with it. This annoys me a lot since I urgently want to learn how to control it under extreme conditions (like Spa in the rain :-))



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller


P.S. On the other hand I will attend the Pilota Ferrari courses one day for sure! Perhaps we can attend one of them together in the future :-)
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Username: Amar360

Post Number: 192
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:42 pm:   

But Jens, what exactly is the problem with driving a different model at Pilota, particularly if it is a current one? Surely that would make it even more fun! You will get familiar with a newer model surprisingly quickly and the 360 and 575 happen to be pretty user-friendly cars by Ferrari standards.

The costs, on the other hand, are a bit of a bummer - you are right. But consider it one of the best types of training you can receive on driving a Ferrari from some fantastic drivers. Hope you will do it one day...
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 254
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

Jens,

>>>Uhhhhhhh, well some paint here and there and it looks brand new again, I guess.

Yeah... as Don always says "That will buff right out!".

Playing with the idea of putting 400 / 412 drive trains in (see "Technical Q&A" section).

Amar,

We're diehard Nurburgring Nordschleife fans (I couldn't care less about the new GP track...) although we never ran an offical race there. I vaguely remember losing a front wheel in "Adenauer Forst" though....

The track is highly challenging and SUBERBLY addictive!

Jack
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 524
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:33 pm:   

Amar,

The pilota courses really sound good but I am not driving one of the modells featured at the courses and the prices are also quite tempting.
Nevertheless it is just fantastic to drive your Ferrari at a track. Everytime I can really feel that the car was built exactly for that purpose and not for posing around with it somewhere downtown only to impress people.

Another thing I love about track events and driving there is the adrenaline rush. I compared that with some other drivers and your hands are really shacking after some laps at Spa or the Nordschleife. It�s just pure fun and adrenaline I have seldom discovered before :-)
Looking forward to the next adrenaline rush with you all :-)




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Amar Inam (Amar360)
Junior Member
Username: Amar360

Post Number: 191
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:31 pm:   

Jack,

I'm glad you know the track well - it would be hugely beneficial for me at least, never having driven around Nurburgring, to follow people who know the track and presumably the best driving lines, breaking zones etc. Looking forward to it...

Cheers,
Amar
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 523
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   

Jack,

Uhhhhhhh, well some paint here and there and it looks brand new again, I guess :-)
Good luck with the restauration!



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller



P.S. No problem if you can�t bring a Ferrari! Just keep me informed about your plans (When or if to come etc.)
Amar Inam (Amar360)
Junior Member
Username: Amar360

Post Number: 190
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   

Jens,

Of course you're right - one can laugh about it afterwards if things are mostly okay but it's not such a laugh when you're in the middle of "a moment"!

Actually this reminds me again of one of the real benefits of the Pilota courses - you get to drive factory-provided cars around Mugello which is another outstanding track, and to test the car's and your limits a bit more than usually... uh oh I'm getting the pangs for another Pilota soon!!!

A presto,
Amar
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 252
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   

Amar,

yes, we know the area pretty well, including the track itself. At one stage we had an unlimited "Year-round access card" to the Nordschleife.

We have also set up some timing points to be able to compare lap times as you can't do sequential laps but have to go off the track at the end of a lap, go through a gate and get back on the track (= related to the fact that you have to pay per lap).

Jack
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Post Number: 251
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:21 pm:   

Jens,

I have to see if we can make it all the days of the meeting (mainly because of the preceeding Le Mans weekend) and since my Fcar is nowhere near finished (see below) we would probably be traveling in a "slightly" modified 1972 Gulf Racing Alfa Romeo Berlina 2000 GTA (!) which will of course demonstrate the usefulness of our chip tuning... ;-)

Jack
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 522
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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:19 pm:   

Amar,

Actually I guess Ton was quite lucky! Some laps later a Testarossa spun at Pouhon. He did not hit anything but got dig in the sand and never got out by himself. They broke off the session and had to tow the heavy car out with a truck.
Next day he was there again and had lots of sand in the engine bay and some stone chips at the side.
Still the owner could already laugh about it again :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:12 pm:   

Jens and Ton,

I would feel privileged if I spun my car on the Spa track, if I could be sure it won't hit anything - it means Ton was having fun and testing the limits! Spa is an amazing track and I'd love to drive it again soon, who knows maybe if it's possible on my way to or from Nurburgring...

Jack,

That sounds like an unbeatable offer, I would say a big yes if you know some interesting routes there!

Ciao,
Amar
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 521
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:08 pm:   

Jack,

Off course you are as well warmly welcomed! Would be nice if you join us for the meeting.
Just shoot me a mail if you are interested.


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 249
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 4:54 pm:   

For those of you who have never been to the Nurburgring, I'm volunteering to lead the pack on nice Eifel mountain (hills actually) roads to the track.

It won't be the quickest way to the track but it'll be a LOT of fun and since we will have a lot less horses under the hood than you guys, we'll do our best to outrun you purely on driver skill... ;-)

BUT... don't be mad if we don't outrun ya as by that time we will just have returned from Le Mans...

Jack
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 519
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   

Amar,

Nice to see you back from vacation! You missed lots of rain in Spa but also fun driving on a very wet track (Ton did two 360 degree spins in a row at Les Combes on his first lap without leaving the track :-)).
Most people seem to come with someone else in june. Just don�t know yet whether these are girl-friends/wifes but suppose so.
Nevertheless I will work out different locations who can be visited and what can be done (museums, shopping etc.) if the women don�t want to come to the track.




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Amar Inam (Amar360)
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 4:19 pm:   

Manu,

Sounds great - are you organising a British army of Ferraris for Nurburgring? Keep me posted, maybe I can join some or all of you across the water... And see you Wednesay!

Jens and all,

Wow this meet is getting bigger and bigger... looking forward to meeting everybody and putting faces to names. By the way, are many people coming with girlfriends/wives/etc?

Ciao,
Amar
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   

You've made me finish off a bad week with a smile Ton - thanks! MARK
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   

Mark,

Then do something about it! Change it! It won't be the same without you!

:-)

Ton
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Username: Malfark

Post Number: 211
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 2:17 pm:   

Guys, Today I took a look at the programme I'll be running that weekend. It's Thursday through Saturday, so it looks like I'm screwed again! MARK
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 1:31 am:   

Ton,

Off course you can! Hope we can manage out a time. :-)

Mark,

Would be great to have you and your wife with us after all!



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller

Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 476
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 5:35 pm:   

Which saturday? In June or in two days?

Ton
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 5:21 pm:   

Jeez - my planning this year has been pathetic! I will be in Spain over the Spa weekend and tied up with work on 19-20 June. But maybe my wife and I could do Saturday....hmmmm! We may be able to salvage something after all!

Cheers, MARK
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 4:14 pm:   

Manu, you really mean EVERY ????
That would be so great :-)

Man, I'm already nervous.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 473
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 4:11 pm:   

Can I join for that spin?

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   

Manu,

Great: Just shoot me a mail! Would be nice to meet you and give the 348 a spin :-)


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Manu (Manu)
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Post Number: 707
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   

Roel - I'm trying to bring EVERY Ferrari owner I know..... :-)

Jens - I may well be in Germany next month before the meet - I'll email you offline.
Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
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Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 6:24 pm:   

Manu: Are you trying to bring some UK owners to this event? That would be awesome. The more cars/people the better. But maybe I'm way off here. Let us know :-)
Manu (Manu)
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Post Number: 704
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 1:34 pm:   

Jens - I need to speak to you about this VERY soon - I got your email :-)!!
I'll get onto this ASAP. Quite a few potential candidates.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 4:15 pm:   

Bart, Roel,

Great to hear that you are coming to the meeting too! I also don't think that you will regret it.

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 6:14 pm:   

Bart,

Great you and Roel want to join us! Will arrange everything! You both won�t regret it. Let�s just hope that the weather in the Eifel doesn�t let us down! The rest will be managed by me for sure :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 4:52 pm:   

Ton, that was our plan already :-)

Maybe a friend of us will be joining aswell, but he's not sure :-(

I called Roel a few hours ago (just got back from work) and we agreed to join the meeting for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And we'll be staying at the same hotel, just a cheaper room (110� a night for 2). I think it's still high but you only live once. (unlike mr. Bond :-))

Enjoy it while you're young :-)

Jens, I've send you an email with some more information. Hope you can work it out.

btw. Don't listen to Roel about my karting skills, they s*ck when I'm not driving my home track :-)
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

Bart,

What if you and Roel share a room?

Ton
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:48 pm:   

you can count me in on saterday, i won't be able to make it during the week
can't wait to see everybody
Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
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Post Number: 162
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   

Jens: Add me to the list! Although Bart and I will have to figur out still which days to visit, we'll definately be part of this somehow. I hope we can make it to the kart track too. (Bart is infamous for his karting skills, so i'd love to see how that works out)

Can't wait to meet some more people from the board, especially the european crew. It's great to meet the person behind a screenname. And the sight of all those Ferrari's toegther will definately be priceless. There's some cars in that list I can't wait to see/hear in person. (Bart's Tubi included)

Again Jens, praise you for organizing this event and putting some (more then some) time and effort in it.

-Roel
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   

Jens, once again, thanks a lot for arranging the complete meeting.
I don't think it's possible for me to stay at a 120� hotel room, so I hope I can arrange something nearby for a bit less money.
It sucks being a student :-(

I'll probably come with Roel, so we'll find something. If not, we'll sleep in the car :-)

I'm still for the karting, would love to battle F-owners on the track :-) especially on MS's track.

Hopefully some more non-owners/owners will join the trip. It will be the best meeting ever made :-)
And let's hope Rob will sell and sent some window banners, to give it a real Fchat.com finish.

I'm really looking forward to the meeting.

Bart
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 4:13 pm:   

Well done Jens! I will be thinking of you all from sunny Spain

MARK
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   

Hi Jens,

Perfect programme! Thanks for all the effort.
I am looking forward to June!

Ton
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 1:35 pm:   

Hello everybody,

Since I had some free time lately I have done most of the organisation for our june meeting. To remind you all how it is planned once again the programm:

Provisional Programm:

Thursday:

Till 1500: Individual arrival at hotel
Rheinhotel Dreesen
Around 1630: Corso with the cars to Schumachers cart track where the indoor or outdoor track can be used for some racing with carts to warm up for the next day.
Afterwards or before: Guided tour through the personal Schumacher museum with a collection of some of their F1 cars etc.
At around 2100: Drive back to Bonn to have some K�lsch at a beergarden directly at the river Rhine or at a nice wine yard near the hotel.

Friday:

Drive to the famous Nordschleife of the Nürburgring in a corso via a nice route through the Ahr valley
Lunch at a small hotel directly at the Ring
Around 1500: Guided tour through the big Nürburgring Motorsport Museum at the Grand Prix track
Between 1730 and 1930: Free practise at the Nordschleife
Around 1800: Drive back to Bonn in Corso via the valley of the Ahr which is a nice wine area
Around 2030: Dinner at the "Il Punto" which has been the favourit italian restaurant of Helmut Kohl. The italian owner will definitely organise something nice for some Ferrari tifosi

Saturday:

Drive to the Nordschleife in a corso
Free Practise the whole day again to really get to know this tremendously difficult track better
Around 1600: Drive back to Bonn with a small halt at the most well known wine yard of the Ahr the "Deutzerhof" with a small wine degustation if possible
Around 2100: Farewell party at my appartment with an italian Buffet and open end

Sunday:

Individual departure
or visit of the famous Beethoven Museum in Bonn
or the small but nice Von Trips Racing museum in Kerpen
or free practise at the Nordschleife

Costs:

Hotel:
Rheinhotel Dreesen has offered the following discounted prices:
Superior rooms: Double: 170� Single: 135�
Moderate rooms: Double: 140� Single: 120�
"Dreesen Suite": 240�
Per room per day. These categories are all with direct Rhine view and include a breakfast and a free Minibar!
Ferrari compatible parking lot: 8� per day

Track fee for the Nordschleife:
1 lap: 14 �
5 laps: 56 �
6 laps: 76 �
12laps:143 �
Again it might be possible to get a group discount.

Cart rental:
Single drive at the cart track 9 minutes: 10 �
10 drives a 9 minutes: 90 �
Rental of whole track:
One hour: per cart=62 � with a minimum of 14 carts

Nürburgring museum:
10 � per person with a guided tour

Rest:
Travel expenses, food etc. depends on individual needs.

Internet Sites:
Hotel: www.rheinhoteldreesen.de
Nürburgring: www.nuerburgring.de
Cart track: www.michaelschumacher-kartcenter.de
Vine yard: www.deutzerhof.de

Attendance list:
Amar Inam,UK,F360 Modena
Ulf Modig,SV,308qv
Jens Haller,GER,348tb
Becker Cuellar,US
Bart Boonacker,NL
Bart Bosmans,BEL,F360 Modena
Ton Visser,BEL,328GTS
Luigi Gatti,Sui,360 Modena
Bernhard Rowe,UK,355 GTB
plus around 10 other Fcars from Heiko and it�s group at saturday.
There are still 5 rooms available at Rheinhotel Dreesen so I hope we can fill up this gap :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller



P.S. People who don�t attend the whole programm are welcomed as well, off course. Just show up at the Nordschleife or where you like!
Joren Remans (J_remans)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 9:24 am:   

Thanks Bart.
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 9:18 am:   

Joren, if you open the Spa Ferrari days tread, you'll see Bart Bosmans has offered to distribute all the phonenumber to all attending, so we can set-up a meet
Joren Remans (J_remans)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 9:13 am:   

I will definitely be in Spa on sunday. Send me your mobile number by email and I will get in touch with you so we can meet in Francorchamps!!!

Ciao a tutti

Joren
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 7:08 am:   

Guy
then it might be best that we meet on sunday
and i will also be driving back home every day, it's only 180 km, so that's not that bad.
i will be there also on friday, but on saterday i will have to leave early to go to a wedding.
and then i can't get to drunk because i have to find my way back to Spa on sunday
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 6:23 am:   

Bart,

Whoops, sorry for the misunderstanding there!!
I allready found it strange that you wouldn't go to the whole F-chat meeting!

For the Ferrari days at Spa, i don't think i will be overnighting, because saturday i'll come alone or with a friend and sunday my sister will come along! She's also a Ferrari-fan (alltough not as big as me!)!
But this is all provisional, things can always change!

If you're leaving at 9 am, maybe we can drive together! That is if i'm awake yet, because at friday i have to go to a party!


Dirk,

If the nurburgring is 300 kms from Antwerp i guess we'll have to leave a bit sooner than 9 am!
But we'll discuss that later at Spa!

Right now i'm going for a spin in the S! :-) :-) 9000 RPM all the way!!
(and try to get over my hangover from last night!!)

CIAO...

Guy H
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 3:02 am:   

Guy,

For the ring meeting i'll be there all the time, it's for the Ferrari days at Spa that i'll leave Saturday. I've found a hotel in Verviers, Amigo Hotel.
9000 RPM and V-TEC is something unique :-)

Bart
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 1:05 pm:   

I drove last september for the first time to the Nurnburgring and it's 300 km if you go from Antwerp, so it's about 2.5 - 3 hours drive, if you kinda behave yourself
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   

Dirk,

A good idea for meeting each other at the Ferrari days! We will probably all be there!

I for myself will definetly be there on sunday and if the weather is fine also saturday!

Bart, did you found a hotel allready for the Ferrari-days? Spa and surrounding was fully booked you said!
So, you're also leaving saturday for the F-chat meeting. Leaving at 9am is good i think, i don't remember how long the drive up there is (only been once at the ring and it's a few years ago, ferrari racing days!)

You guys all have a nice weekend!
And remember: Life begins at 9000 RPM :-) :-) right Bart?

CIAO...

Guy H
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
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Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:26 am:   

We will be there Saturday and Sunday.

Leaving at +/- 09.00 am.

Bart
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 6:09 pm:   

Perhaps we could meet at the Spa Ferrari Days
i'm pretty sure that you guys will be there
i will be there for the full 3 days
Joren Remans (J_remans)
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Very good idea; if you guys are planning to jump in on saterday I join the club!!! Why don't we meet eachother first somewhere in a nice bar to arrange some of the details of driving together?
Don't forget that there is a farewell party as well so maybe it's better to book a room in the area...
Look forward to meet all of you!!

Salutazione,
Joren REMANS
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 9:59 am:   

Hello Guy
i will be going on saterday, also pretty busy with work.
And besides your not that far from me, i'm from Brasschaat
Guy Heylen (Rpm_tifosi)
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   

Hi Joren and Dirk,

I'm also a big Ferrari-freak without an F-car (yet!)

But i will also go to the meeting, unfortunately it will only be for saturday (always very busy at work that time of year :-()

Which day(s) are you guys planning to go?

If you're also going saturday only, maybe we can meet somewhere in Belgium, like Joren said?

It would be nice to meet some other Tifosi which are in the same position as me: don't drive an F-car yet but will be ... one day!!

Just give me a sign

CIAO...

Guy H

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