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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1858
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:09 pm:   

Guys
Perhaps you could let me know the name or theme of a charity that Amar and Jens held close to their hearts.
Best
Jim
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 422
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 1:57 am:   

More to read.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/article.asp?storyId=6918
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 640
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 10:12 am:   

I just had contact with Amar's brother. They read all the messages on Fchat. If anyone on this board would like to contact a member of Amar's family then please get in contact with me.

[email protected]
+32 89 722 850

Ton
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 30
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

Could not attend....was curios about the first info and pics about the first meeting at the N�rburgring this morning.

O...my god...Jens..Amar............Why...

R.I.P.

My condolences to their friends and familes

Luuk
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 410
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 6:56 am:   

This a tragic event and I am really lost for words.We must learn from this event.
What exactly happened ? can we learn some thing positive from it ???
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 406
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 6:18 am:   

My sympathies to you all and to their families and friends.
RIP.
They lived life to the fullest and died doing what they engjoyed best.
Craig Williams (Craigw)
Junior Member
Username: Craigw

Post Number: 150
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 4:22 am:   

very sad news indeed. Nothing to say that hasn't been said. RIP guys.
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member
Username: Evandaalen

Post Number: 146
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 3:14 am:   

I haven't been on the Internet since last thursday .... and I was a bit pissed on Friday and Saturday, because I couldn't attend the FChat meeting at the ring .... Jens had organized it in such a nice way .... it would have been such a great day .... meeting FChatters and having fun ..... but then I read this VERY sad news .... unbelievable .... silence .... tears .... my heart stopped beating for a few seconds .... what a nightmare ....

Rest in peace Jens ... rest in peace Amar ...

My deepest condolences to their families and friends, wishing a lot of strength in this hard time ...

Best regards from a very sad F-Chatter, Edvar
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 639
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 3:12 am:   

Ben,

Thanks for the message. I will try to bring some comfort to the family with all the caring, loving messages on this board.

Ton
Ben Lovejoy (Ben_lovejoy)
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Username: Ben_lovejoy

Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 4:42 pm:   

Just a quick note from the Ringers list to pass on our condolences to all who knew Amar and Jens.

A friend of mine arrived maybe 10-20 seconds after the crash, and there seems no doubt at all that death was instantaneous. Perhaps those in touch with their families can pass on that small crumb of comfort?

The Ring is a very addictive but very dangerous track. Even the most skilled and most sensible drivers can crash there.

Ben
ctk (Ctk)
Junior Member
Username: Ctk

Post Number: 104
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 3:28 am:   

Rest in Peace Jens and Amar.

To all of you who were at the event and to those of us who grief their loss, peace be with you.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1777
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:35 pm:   

It was a cold rainy day in NY.
I threw two wild roses into the sea.
Sail on my friends and please watch over those of us left behind wondering why...
Leonardo Soccolich (Lens)
Member
Username: Lens

Post Number: 305
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

Though I did not know Amar and Jens, we shared the same passion for Ferrari, even though the Atlantic separated us.

My deepest condolences to friends and families.

Len
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member
Username: Malfark

Post Number: 300
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:43 am:   

Ton & Wolfgang - Amar and I worked for competing multi-national consulting firms. I assume that his details are posted in line 9 of this spreadsheet:

http://www.eurocontrol.int/cba/studies/cbaguide/cbalist.xls

If this is indeed his firm, then the contact details are here:

http://www.adlittle.uk.com/about/default.asp?content=locations

...these contacts may be useful if we wish to get in contact with Amar's family. Bart & Roel - perhaps you could confirm whether this is the right consulting firm or not.

Regards, MARK
Helmut Schnug (Ferrari_e_basta)
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Username: Ferrari_e_basta

Post Number: 40
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:12 am:   

Hi all

my deepest condolence for both and their families.
What a sad occasion to be back on FerrariChat after a while.

I don't want to criticize something or anybody BUT
everybody should know that the Nurburgring is the most difficult and most dangerous circuit in the world.

Nearly EVERY day people are being killed driving their bikes or cars around the RING. The Media is asked not to publish the real number of casualties

NOOOO - I don't want to say: let's go back to everyday life BUT you should thing about WHY it happenes so often.

Pedal to the metal right after the first lap, fully overestimation, mostly wearing no crash helmets (also in cars), sharing the passenger-seat
with somebody else, never driven a Ferrari under circumstances like that, ........

May the dead of Amar Inam and Jens Haller be a warning for all of us !!

Helmut Schnug
[email protected]



Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Username: Trevi

Post Number: 16
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 7:43 am:   

hi all,
i'm shocked ...
my deepest condolences and sympathies to all their families and friends

trevi
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 635
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 7:31 am:   

Hi Ulf,

I had the same feeling. I woke up this morning thinking that it all had been a bad dream. But it seems to be more than real.

Ton
Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
Junior Member
Username: Ulf308qv

Post Number: 75
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 7:06 am:   

Hi Ton,
We arrived in Stuttgart around 22.00 yesterday. During the drive I was thinking alot. When I woke up this morning I thought I had a nightmare.
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
Junior Member
Username: Car_�lite

Post Number: 71
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 6:36 am:   

I put my thoughts in German words. Sorry, but I can't express what I feel at the moment. If anyone is able to read German, you can view it here.

Jens, Amar, I'll never forget you. You lived our passion.

http://www.ferrari355.de/board_de/viewtopic.php?t=277
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 634
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:26 am:   

Hi Ulf,

It is good to see that you made it to Stuttgart.

I still cannot comprehend it.

Ton
Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
Junior Member
Username: Ulf308qv

Post Number: 73
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:10 am:   

It feels unreal, we just meet. Thursday night we had a couple of beers, and yesterday we had a nice drive to the ring but we only manage to do 3 laps before the disaster. I went out on the track just before Amar and Jens but they never came back.
Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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Username: Uricken

Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:04 am:   

My deepest condolence for both and their families.
Wolfgang told me the latest news and I don't know what to say.

I got to know Jens on a butifull ride through the Ahrtal.

I will miss them both
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member
Username: Sharky666

Post Number: 423
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:41 am:   

Just woke up, to my surprise slept well.

Still can't beleive it their gone, after all the fun we had the day before. We (Jens, Roel and me) went karting, and strolled along the Rhein.
They both had driven 2 laps on the Nordschleife that day and I've riden along with both Amar and Jens.
Me or Roel were supposed to ride along with Amar but Jens cut in :-(

:-(
Upload
:-(

My thoughts go out to all their family, to Amar's girlfriend (who he should have married :-() and all other relatives.




Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens

A presto, Amar
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1158
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:31 am:   

Wolfgang,

Same thing . Waiting for the delivering news ! I know it wont come but its just so irrealistic !
I cant believe this . Tomorrow im going to Spa , where i met Jens . I'll be there but the heart wont !

So unfair .
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member
Username: Malfark

Post Number: 296
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:17 am:   

Everyone,

As I mentioned on the N�rburgring thread, I have just had an emotional phone call with Wolfgang. Work prevented me from joining the F-Chat Europe delegation this weekend, and I was unhappy at not being able to be there to meet you all. However, the tragedy of this situation has eclipsed all other emotions...I am devastated.

Although I had never met them, Jens and Amar had become real friends online. They were passionate about their cars, were always keen to give advice and were really supportive when I had problems with my 328. Their absence will leave a vacuum on F-Chat.

I would once again like to pass on my deepest sympathiest to the families and to all who knew Amar & Jens.

MARK
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 361
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:14 am:   

Andrew,

...also still online since yesterday.
Can`t go sleeping, still waiting for Jens & Amar
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1157
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:11 am:   

Just woke up , didnt sleep much .
Still cant believe this . ! :-(
BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobd

Post Number: 1284
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   

To all our European F-Chatters and friends who knew Jens and Amar, I'm so sorry for your loss. These were two great guys who will be missed. Reading their posts and always positive comments, I had so much admiration for both of them... I'm so, so sorry.

Bob
Heiko (Hgparts)
Junior Member
Username: Hgparts

Post Number: 119
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:36 pm:   

i was called on my cell from wolfgang could not think that something happens. i had jens on the phone yesterday and now he is gone make me sad so much. we had so much fun here with both jens and amar so now i really dont know what to say i still can believe it

heiko
hgparts
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1150
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:20 pm:   

I feel sick , im almost crying , its like running through a corridor with no end , whatever i do , i think about Jens at Spa .

Im speechless and disgusted with life .
Manu (Manu)
Member
Username: Manu

Post Number: 762
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:16 pm:   

just sitting here shaking my head..... total disbelief.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1149
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:14 pm:   

Manu , i am . I still cant believe it , im thinking that someone will come up with fresh news and tell us it wasnt them , that they are alright .. :-( .
Manu (Manu)
Member
Username: Manu

Post Number: 761
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:10 pm:   

IS anyone else still awake thinking about this..... (2.09am UK)
Con saluti cordialissimi my friends...
Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member
Username: Taunus

Post Number: 199
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:57 pm:   

I don`t know why ?

My deepest condolences to their families.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1143
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:56 pm:   

Life is . How something like that could happen to someone so nice as Jens ? This is so unfair. He was so young , so enthusast . I still cant belive this .

I didnt know Amar but we were trying to meet at the Supercar rally in sept . And to think he was going to get married .

Why ?

RIP my friends !

Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
Junior Member
Username: Dj_dirk

Post Number: 207
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:48 pm:   

i can't believe that they are dead
however that i only met Jens once, i found him a very great guy, and was really looking forward of seeing him again.
my deepest condolences to the family's
and both will be very missed by all of us
J W Assink (Jwa)
New member
Username: Jwa

Post Number: 23
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:17 pm:   

I just read the shocking news.
Track-events will never be the same after this.

Rest in peace Jens and Amar.
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member
Username: Tillman

Post Number: 696
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:16 pm:   

My sympathies to you all and to their families. :-(
Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
Junior Member
Username: Spawnz

Post Number: 203
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:08 pm:   

Ton: Arrived home an hour ago (after dropping Bart off). Hard to keep emotions under control at the moment. Can't stop thinking about them. Why, why, why.

Jens and Amar, rest in peace. You won't be forgotten.

Will email you tomorrow when I get my head sorted. Time for sleep now.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh

Post Number: 932
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:07 pm:   

Wolfgang- it's alright. I'll see you next year.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1757
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 5:05 pm:   

A piece of all of us is gone...
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
Junior Member
Username: Bel

Post Number: 130
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:33 pm:   

My condolences to the families.

Bart
Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member
Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1054
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:29 pm:   

When you share a common passion, and share each others words, opinions and feelings, a sense of bond developes without ever meeting in person.

Amar and Jens, you will be missed and remembered by your brothers at FerrariChat. All my thoughts and condolences.

Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 352
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:29 pm:   

Hubert,

sorry, can`t find the right words right now but I swore you, we will do a memeorial drive to Monaco next year!

a very sad wolfgang
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh

Post Number: 931
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:26 pm:   

Wolfgang: I feel worse now about missing you and Amar at Monaco. Stay safe. Best wishes, Hubert.
Paul Wehmer (Pwehmer)
Junior Member
Username: Pwehmer

Post Number: 170
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:14 pm:   

A horrible and sad event.

Many of the Ferrari family here will remember thier passion that showed in thier words and actions. What a shame to have this happen.

Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 350
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   

In memory to my dear friends Amar & Jens,

What a bad day. Jens you was working so hard for the fchat.com meeting with all your passion & love for Ferrari. Amar also a real Ferrari lover & driver and you did the trip from the UK to Germany to join the community for the weekend.
We will miss you & keep you forever in our minds.
Wolfgang

Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 1938
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 4:00 pm:   

I didn't know them, but I'll miss seeing "Con saluti cordialissimi".

Rest in Peace Jens and Amar.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 623
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:58 pm:   

Today Amar Inam and Jens Haller died in a horrible crash at the Nurnburgring. It was supposed to be the start of a beautiful European event but a terrible thing went wrong. We are so shocked. Our thoughts go out to their families.

Let us remind them both as the two cheerful guys who really had "la passione".

I will miss them both.

Ton

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