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DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5239
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:23 am:   

Ok... i officially feel like a moron. You all see how it's easy to confuse those two, right...? That XJ13 has a similar shape to the Miura... i'm still learning - and this is one of the best ways... :-)
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 1965
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Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

Wolfgang
Wouter is correct. This one is as real as it gets having been resurrected from the destroyed original. Note wheels on the reproduction made in NZ.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 1377
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:28 pm:   

You could have a XJ13 built by this company in New Zealand:
http://www.temperocars.com/about/aboutreference4.html

They also do Ferrari reproductions and other classic Jags.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 449
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:11 pm:   

Wouter,

thanks for the aditional informations about this amazing XJ13.
PPP mail is on the way.
Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:58 pm:   

The XJ13 was constructed in 1966 and first tested in 1967. It proved to be quite quick, but Jaguar's officials were not up to launch a car that would leave the rest of the line-up obsolete. It remained a secret until 1971, when it was used for making a film on the V12 E-Type. A tire collapsed at high speed, resulting in a horrible crash. The car was reconstructed two years later to its original specs and confined into a museum.

Today it seems to attend every classic show in Europe.
Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Post Number: 35
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:44 pm:   

It was the real deal, as real as it gets. If I'm not mistaken, the original car was destroyed in a fire which also halted the program. This car is the reconstruction. I'm not 100% sure about this story though .. a lot is unclear about this car.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 448
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:40 pm:   

James, DES,

".....Look the wheels. Look at the wheel's on the Concorde. (That's one way to tell if it's a real XJ13)"

I know so less about this XJ13, but everything seems to be perfect to me. So please delight me my dear friends. Is THIS a fake? There was a big sign beside the car with all the history, Ser# a.s.o
Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:31 pm:   

I should have taken more shots of the Countach, but I was on my way to the Alfa Romeo 6C 2500s, which I really had to take some more shots of. (I'm a sucker for 6C 2500s!)

Here is an interesting angle of the XJ13
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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:16 pm:   

Des, Des, Des,
Look the wheels. Look at the wheel's on the Concorde. (That's one way to tell if it's a real XJ13)
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:05 pm:   

DES,

thanks for the compliment. Just wondering which car you are talking about?
The Lamborghini MIURA -non topless-is the BLUE one posted again by Wouter.
The car "I felt in Love" is a British Racing Green
(very dark color)Jaguar XJ13 -topless. But my pics are very bad quality, so it might be hard to see/identify.

Wolfgang
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DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5219
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   

i'm right there with you, Wolfgang, that black, topless Miura is GORGEOUS...! Thanks for posting these pictures, there were some really gorgeous cars there...
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 1376
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   

Nice Wolf Countach pic! The rearview mirrors are interesting.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 440
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   

thanks Wouter, great shot, well done!
With the rain and the trees it looks more real to me.

Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:56 am:   

yep here is another shot .. quality is mediocre with the trees throwing weird shadows on the car

btw .. the Bentley Speed 8 was a fake, the car that should have been there blew its engine on the Champs Eleyses ..
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 438
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:48 am:   

Wouter,

I have got a lots of mails asking for more pics of the Walter Wolf Countach. What a demand; but no more pics. Can you help this gents? Maybe you got some great prof shot? Please feel free to post them here.
Thanks in advance

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 437
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:44 am:   

ups, thats the difference between an amateur-photo-shooter like me and an proffesional well experinced one like you Wouter; congratulation!
Yes, I know on friday there was no rain and not so cloudy as Saturday/Sunday.

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:41 am:   

Lucky Wouter,
you heard the XJ13 - I`m envious. Thats the reason I prefer events like the Oldtimer Grand Prix at the N�rburgring. I want to see and hear them driven! Schwetzingen is like to visit a museum.
Yes, I saw the black OSCA but sorry no pics

Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:41 am:   

early friday morning
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

I saw and heard the XJ13 drive up, truely stunning! The Miura was perfect and actually used quite a lot.
Did you see that black Osca? It's completely original, even the tires are original.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 434
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:28 am:   

yep, found youwith the Jeasns and blond hairs, thanks for the advice.
The SS 100 is an awesome great Jaguar but to be honest, I felt in love with the:
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That`s the on to die for....after Ferrari.

Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:26 am:   

I am in the 275 GTB shot walking on the grass, just above the Lusso. I was there as a journalist, so I got in on Friday already!

Here is the Saoutchik Jaguar SS 100, which I included in our update this week:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1695
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 432
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:22 am:   

Wouter,

mhm, 36 pics...delight me which one. Maybe pic number 6 on this site? Have you been there as a visitor, dealer, journalist or with your own cars?

Wolfgang
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Wouter Melissen (Wouterm)
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:13 am:   

Great stuff Wolfgang ! I'm in one of your shots !!
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   

Willis & Alan,

wow, you see that the blue Lamborghini Countach is a Walter Wolf one?!? I`m impressed and you are of course absolut right! Sorry no more pics from this beauty. The car was brought to the event by BOB FOSTNER from Lamborghini Stuttgart, Germany. Here is a link to his web-site:
http://www.lamborghini.de/
The Walter Wolf Countach is not 4 sale and on display in one of the best museums in Europe: The Rosso Bianco. Check out their web-site:
http://www.rosso-bianco.de
Today the weather is again very cloudy here in Germany but I will try to shoot some more pics of this cars. The event is very close to my house, only 1 mile away;-)

Wolfgang
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Con saluti cordialissimi
Jens Haller & Amar Inam, Rest In Peace
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 5:53 pm:   

The blue Countach with gold wheels is a Walter Wolf car! Awesome!
Dirk de Jager (Dj_dirk)
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

Wolfgang
do you happen to have a good shot of that Lambo 350 GT?
it's parked besides that blue Countach
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 1375
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:38 am:   

Nice pictures! Got any more of that blue Walter Wolf special Countach?
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Post Number: 424
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 4:41 am:   

Hello gents,
just back from the 3.European Concours d`Elegance in Schwetzingen, close to Heidelberg - Germany. The Concours has just opened 1 hour ago!
So if you would like to go there...it realy worth it and its opened today the whole day and tomorrow till 18:00 p.m. ! Here is the first bash of pics, and if they are welcome I would bring you some more today and tomorrow.
Sorry, have to split them in 2 parts....toooo big!
Enjoy them
Wolfgang
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Con saluti cordialissimi
Jens Haller & Amar Inam, Rest In Peace
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