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Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 6:34 am:   

Hi Uwe,

Good to hear from you. I have not had any bad experiences with EasyJet (just the over-crowding at Stanstead), but their ticket prices are not always cheper than some of the more established airlines.

For example, my flight to the UK last week was cheaper on Czech Airlines (CSA) than it was on EasyJet...and on CSA I get airmiles and my frequent flyer card gives me a free upgrade to Business Class. Oh - and I get to eat my favourite Hindu meal! British Airways on the same route is ridiculously priced (like your example).

This weekend my wife is flying here and also got a better price on CSA than on EasyJet. I guess it all depends when you buy the ticket with these budget carriers. If you buy well in advance, you get a good price. The more tickets they sell, the price increases proportionately. An interesting and successful business model.

Cheers, MARK
Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 1:49 am:   

Hi Mark,

I disagree with you. RyanAir is a superb lowcost airline. The boarding time is sensational and the check in/check out is the fastest I have ever seen in my different business trips.

I have made only good practice with RyanAir - I don't know other low cost carriers but I use the spent money better for shopping!

An example for the perfect pricing system:

One ticket FFM - LONDON - FFM

British Airways: 689,00 �
Lufthasa: 678,00 �
RyanAir: 46,90 �

I spent over 600,00 �!!! Service is good because I don't needed it ;-)

With red wishes
Uwe Ricken
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 1:42 am:   

Wolfgang,

My life is insane at the moment - too many issues surrounding the move. Nevertheless, I still hope to be able to join the trip to Maranello, unfortunately not in my car, but maybe as a passenger or on my motorcycle.

Cheers, MARK
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:03 am:   

Mark,
the cheaper airlines IMO are good enough for a 1 hour 15 minutes trip - don`t need any service for this time.
Autobahn - Remeber I realy tried to get you to Heidelberg, Germany...maybe we should speak about this opportunity again in 1 year;-)...hopefully, yes hopefully you will survive the *g*island

Wolfgang
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Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:55 am:   

Wolfgang,

Give me the autobahn any day! I have become a commuter on these low cost airlines recently, and sometimes they are not the best deal - you still need to shop around.

Cheers, MARK
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:35 am:   

Mark,
in another post, the GB gents spoke from an airport base they have rented over the weekend for speeding...otherwise, yes Germany!
I believe its cheaper, faster, safer to visit you the next time with Ryan(?)-Air?

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:31 am:   

Trevi,
no problem, everything is absolut fine to me and I appreciate you comments very well. If I didn`t I won`t post it here with all the local details.
I can always deal with good criticism.
But sorry, for me it realy worth it and I don`t worry about it.
I`m hunting on the road since over 25 years; but a "12 Ender" is so rare in the wild forest I HAVE to hunt and cull it whenever I meet one.
- I don`t loose my German driving licence
- I don`t pay 15K
....and I will be soon back in Switzerland;-)))
Tell you more off-line / phone.

"Party Luzern" sounds preety good. Please let me know the date and for sure I will come!
Tell you more off-line / phone.


Wolfgang
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Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:29 am:   

Guys,

When next you're in the UK in a fast car, DON'T take the A1 north from Hatfield. Holy sh*t - I have never seen so many cameras in such a short stretch of highway! I crawled up there in my 328 a fortnight ago and it was NO FUN at all.

So...where do our friends in the UK go to drive at speeds above 70 mph?? Germany??

MARK
Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:25 am:   

wolfgang,

we don't have seasonal plates in switzerland, but you can check in and out, whenever you want, the insurance will be calculated pro rata temporis. as insurance is very expensive in switzerland, i have to check out after next weekend, you know, my budget :-(
and yes, i have a problem again as i mentioned in another thread, the left drive axle shaft :-(

but if you are in lucerne anyway, we can meet us without car and instead party the brain out of our sculls ;-)
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:19 am:   

@Mark,
thanks my brother you get to the heart of it!!!!
That was excactly the target
Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Post Number: 150
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:11 am:   

wolfgang,

slow down! it's nothing personal and it has also nothing to do with lucerne, it's just that i know this section of the highway very well. it's also not about your driving experience, which i wouldn't doubt. i was just caring about this, firstly, because it could have serious consequences for you, what i don't wish for a friend of mine, and secondly because it was in my opinion quite stupid, that's all.
concerning the a61, i know the speed limit there, i was driving the a61 for many times. and we were to fast in the convoy. but ask uwe, how fast i was driving when we headed back to hockenheim alone!
for me it would be a pitty, that, in the worst case, we could not meet and drive together in switzerland for maybe many years, i would feel quite bad for you as a friend, if you would get a fine of very likely over 15'000 euros, and so many points in flensburg, that you even loose your license in germany for some time; just because of your lacking reluctance from that gt40-temptation, just because of such a stupidity.

if you would not be a friend of mine, i would have had a whole lot of malicious joy and wouldn't have lost a word about it, that's it.

so don't take it as an offense, take it personally in the way i meant it: as a friend.

trevi
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 9:05 am:   

Eistert - you ARE a mad man!!

I have had a GREAT time reading this thread! I can just visualise you sweating hard to bring down this American Bison! Brilliant

Jay - your experience was really refreshing. You have renewed my faith in mankind. And I agree with Worlgang - the attitude of German F-owners may have a lot to do with the attitude of the police there.

Cheers, MARK
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 3:13 am:   

@Trevi,
do you have seasons plates?
Or what happend to your car....again some problems? Hopefully not.
Just a last note about the discusson on this thread:
Trevi, First of all-I`m realy not proud of what I have done speeding thru Luzern so fast! I started this thread to let you know my meeting, hunt & fun with this awesome GT40!!! (Read serious, I was always talking about the GT40 and my whack to catch him!). This happened in and around Luzern, well it could happen also in Italy, Germany...a.s.o. I have never endanger anybody! I drove alone without a passenger! It was 06:45 a.m.! Roads were empty, no traffic (and of course no childrens and pedestrians on the highway!) No risk or endanger for anybody! As a German with our "Autobahn", I`m realy used in driving high-speed for more than 5 minutes. I also attended several track-races-events and B4 I bought my first Ferrari I drove the whole Porsche line from 914, 924, 944, 911, 911 Turbo and was invited to several Porsche "Fahrertraining" a.s.o.
I realy didn`t wanted to run the thread in this direction where it went - once again it was the GT40 meeting story (for me). Well, maybe just because it happened in YOUR beautiful town? If I didn`t mention Luzern in my thread and just would have typed "somewhere over the rainbow" I didn`t care about a speed limit and bla, bla, bla, maybe it wouldn`t bother you so much.
Last one: Yes, it was a fault! But I`m not a criminal!

P.S. on our common drive to the N�rburgring was also most of the highway a speed-limit of 120km/h or 130km/h...and some radar controll we braked realy hard B4. I don`t know what your speedometer was up - mine, and I`m honest on this, was around 200km/h.

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 2:32 am:   

wolfgang,

i'd suggest to postpone our sightseeing of lucerne to next year, because after this weekend i'll check out my car until next season.

trevi
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
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Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:44 pm:   

What's the deal? There is another meeting at Schwetzingen? And I did not know until today...

Damn, on the 27th I'm at Barcelona...I'll return on sunday 28th...would like to join this time, but seems to be impossible...

www.car-elite.com
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:48 am:   

Trevi,

sounds preety good to me and I�m not kidding. Why not? My schedule looks very overloaded for the next few weeks but I`m sure we will find a soultion for a meeting:
18.09 - 21.09 Ferari Drive Austria
22.09...maybe meeting with Jay /USA?
26.09 Ferrari Crackerbarrel / FFM
27.09 Nino / Modena Restaurant meeting/briefing for the Italy drive
02.10 - 08.10 Ferrari Italy Drive
17.10 - 21.10 Dallas / Texas Business Trip
01.11 - 02.11 LUZERN ????????????

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Post Number: 147
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:41 am:   

wolfgang:
no blick-news yet.
of course it would be a pleasure to me to show you around lucerne, which is actually really one the very beautiful places in switzerland.
and, only because it's you, i would of course take you with me on my passenger seat, it's not so funny running behind me ;-)

trevi
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:51 am:   

Jay,
thanks a lot for the info.
I will be between 18.-21. September in Austria with some Ferrari friends. But I can probably drive direct from Schruns/Austria (close to Lichtenstein) to M�nchen or Singen...its always on the way for me to meet a FerrariChat member
and I have time enough to elongate my vacation for 1-2 days. Just call me till Sunday over mobil to make arrangement. Ups, forget to mention: I`m not allowed to drive thru the Switzerland;-( So we can only meet us in Germany or Austria.

Hope to CU soon and enjoy your drive & vacation.

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:44 am:   

Trevi,
any "Blick" news about the illumination;-) ?

Trevi I realy understand you. So maybe you would like to invite me, as a pedestrian, for a sightseeing tour to your beautiful & beloved Luzern to show me that there is more to know about the city & surrounding?

Wolfgang
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Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:32 am:   

Wolfgang -- ich habe Ihren Handy nummer, und ich telefoniere im naechste Woche. ich komme nach Muenchen am 19 September, und fahre ein neue 575M F1 fuer mein erst 3 Tage. Dann ich fahre die 360 Modena bis 7 October.

Vielleicht am Dienstag ich gehe nach AutoSalon Singen. Wie weit ist es von Ihnen?

Hoffentlich die neue Challange Stradale kommt so ich kann diese Fahrzeug fahren auch. Aber jetzt es ist noch nicht da.

Bis bald,

-Jay
Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:30 am:   

wolfgang,
no wonder you can't remember the tunnels when you were driving that fast ;-)
that's because of the tunnel view at this speed, so you can't differentiate anymore between your view and the real tunnels ;-)

directly after the second speed trap there's the first tunnel!

trevi
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:00 am:   

Trevi,

o.k., o.k., o.k., of course you are right and I`m a guilty bastard. Here my apologies for Luzern & Switzerland: I will never drive the next 111 years so fast thru your beautiful country!
But sorry, just one question: Which two tunnels???? I can`t remeber that there were some tunnels...I only rember some larger bridges;-)
Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Post Number: 145
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:56 am:   

wolfgang,
sorry, but i have to disagree, especially as i know this particular road section very well. driving at this speed so close together through lucerne with all the exits, drive-ups and the two tunnels is IMHO not a peccadillo, but highly irresponsible and dangerous.
in general speeding in Switzerland is a higher risk than for example in Germany, because swiss drivers really do care very little about someone coming from behind and you have always to calculate with chicane braking maneuvres.
of course, this would be different, if we wouldn't have these strict speed limits, so you have always to be aware of. also you can not compare it with other countries, such as italy, france or spain for example.

trevi
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:00 am:   

Simon,
yep, so no reason for me to panic..it works!
Thanks again for the brilliant idea!

Wolfgang
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Simon Langridge (Simon)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:45 am:   

Ohhh now I remember. That might have worked.
Unfortunately I can't use that system anymore...I had to give them back
:-)
See ya
Simon
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:17 am:   

Simon,

"...Whats this "Simon way" of avoiding speeding fines?"
Do you remember at Schwetzingen, Hotel Adler, garage, Saturday evening, your boot, showing me....????? Please no more about this .... here;-)

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:13 am:   

Andrew, mhmm whats up with our beloved Europe?
Criminal, what a unholy word - realy don`t like this kind of titel. Speeding is NOT a felony; its just a bit outlaw but not criminal.
I will take more care in the future for this wasteful, stupid wagerers!!!

Wolfgang
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Simon Langridge (Simon)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:08 am:   

Hey Wolfgang
Just read this thread .....you are mad :-)
When I bought my first 308 on the journey home from Zurich I got it up to about 225 on a short stretch of motor way just oustide the town where I live.

Unfotunately there was a flash from behind. Fortunately I think it was just another driver unhappy (or happy) at my speed (I've been blitzed a few times here in CH and there is no mistaking that flash).

Nevertheless i spent the next 2 or 3 weeks dreading checking the post everymorning.
Still you live in Germany and I'm close to the border....so from now on I'm just sticking to the autobahns.

See ya
Simon

P.S. Whats this "Simon way" of avoiding speeding fines?
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:58 am:   

Wolfgang , in France today , they see speeding drivers as criminals.Almost ! If they catch you speeding at +40km/h over the speed limit , they can take your license and impound your car. If you get caught twice , they will charge you with endangering life ...:-( .

Speed and Automobiles are in the line of fire of the Gvt ..
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:47 am:   

Hi Uwe,

thanks, and of course I don`t worry about it. I happened in Switzerland and usual I`m also on the lucky side like you buddy;-)
And the race with the GT 40 gent realy worth it! Its a once-off-a-time opportunity to meet such a great car & driver (a real british gent) on an empty road. So I don`t have to care about any laws and we both drove like outlaws. O.K. I have lost the race but I wouldn`t forgive myself if I hadn`t a whack on it.Upload

Wolfgang
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Uwe Ricken (Uricken)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:22 am:   

Hi Wolfgang,

don't worry about it. Maybe you will have the same luck as I had with switzerland. They "illuminated" me twice before Basel and nothing happend.

But I have to mention that i drove never again with my business car to switzerland otherwise ...

I will be with you and be sure that you will retrieve official post from the german collegues!

On the other hand you have made great pics of the beautiful GT 40. Isn't it worth it ;-)

With red wishes
Uwe Ricken
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   

@Jay, give me a call when you are in Germany (see profile for my mobile number). Maybe we can have a drive together - in Germany not Switzerland;-)

@Andrew, well but it wasn`t only the temptation. The horses went thru with me `cause I realy wanted to CULL this f*** GT 40 beast....too big/strong/fast for me. So once again its thru:
"Don`t try to hunt what you can`t cull!"
About the speed-price-list in France:
Are there any updates I don`t know?
Last year I drove Lyon - Marseille - St. Tropez and I have been stoped behind a paying agent from the police...yep, they were waiting there. �uro: 300,- for speeding. A friend of mine behind me was much slower at the trap and payed the same price. It looks to me like a blanket price..just for speeding.

Wolfgang
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Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 5:49 pm:   

Wolfgang you crazy nuts ! iguess the temptation twas too much to handle :-) ..One advice , dont do that in France !
I hope everything will turn out for the best ! Keep us updated !

Jay , that story is so refreshing ! I wish the Police was more like that here in France !
Sebastian_DE (Car_�lite)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   

that was a car from special cars at kirchenhausen, right??

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Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 1:37 pm:   

:-) I will definitely go back!!

It was a red 360 Modena with VS F760 plates.

I just love Germany, especially the people in the dorfs. They are so much fun and refreshingly nice!
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:36 am:   

Jay,

great, brilliant, unique! I love your story and thats GERMANY! Thats the way to deal with. I`m sure, he (the police officer) still has the video tape and is watching it each week.
Please, please be so kind and make your promise come true....I believe they are still waiting for you and you are welcome for the drive.
Germany is cool and sometimes the F.-Drivers have some credit.

P.S. was it a yellow 360 Modena with M-XX plate?
So probably I know the video, not sure.

Wolfgang
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Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:21 am:   

Last year when I was in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, I discovered they had a beautiful long tunnel. So I dropped off my friend with his video camera in the tunnel (mistake number one!!) and then drove through the tunnel REALLY fast in my rented Ferrari 360 Modena (mistake number two!!). I accelerated all the way through the tunnel, and was doing about 240 km/h when I exited.

When I went back into the tunnel to pickup my friend with the video camera, he was GONE! I stopped and looked everywhere for him. He was nowhere to be found. So I was really worried.

I thought maybe someone thought he had a problem and picked him up and took him back to the hotel, so I drove back to the hotel Sonnenbichl to look for him. When I walked in, the receptionist told me that the Police had called, and had arrested my friend. Additionally, they instructed me to drive to the police station, IN THE FERRARI, so they could talk to me!!

I was afraid of being arrested and having the Ferrari impounded, so instead of driving to the Police, I took a cab. I also took lots of cash, in case I had to bail out my friend and/or pay for my fine.

When I arrived at the police, I told them who I was. They invited me in to speak with the Police Sargent, and we sat down at his desk. He looked very serious and I thought I was in some serious deep sh*t. He then proceeded to point to a black and white video monitor on his wall, which is a closed circuit surveilance camera mounted inside the tunnel! Then he hit a play button, and I got to watch myself speeding through the tunnel.

After that, he pulled out my friend's video camera, and played the video my friend took of me passing through the tunnel. He could hear the audio, and he counted gears, and noted that most Ferraris are doing close to 250 km/h when they shift out of fourth gear at redline. Unfortunately, he was correct. Then he asked, "Where is the car?"

I told him that I had taken a cab, since I was not sure where to find the police station, and I knew the cab driver would know where to find the police.

He then got a big smile on his face, and said "Oh no!!!! I wanted a ride!"

It turns out the reason he wanted me to come to see him, and the reason he held my friend as a "hostage" until I got there is because he had always wanted a ride in a Ferrari! As most of you probably know, Garmisch is a pretty quiet little town, and my driving the Ferrari through the tunnel at high speed was the most excitement they had seen for a long time!

Then all the officers came into his office, and started laughing, calling me "Michael Schumacher" and "Schumi", and they brought my friend into the office with a big smile on his face. Then I could breathe a sigh of relief!

So we sat there, and they said, "Well, we are going to have to issue you a ticket for SOMETHING." So they got out their law book, and paged through it a bit, and wrote us a ticket for 13 (thirteen) Euro for violating the "no-pedestrian in the tunnel" law!

By this time it was getting late (after 23.00), so they made me promise that the next time I drive through Garmisch in a Ferrari, I would stop and give them all a ride.

Next week I plan to drive to Garmisch, and I will stop at the police station to see if any of my old friends are still there!

So, it seems their bark was much worse than their bite. Boy was I scared at first!
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:10 am:   

Didier,

thanks for your kind words. No reason to get nervous; I`m realy used in driving SAFETY & SURE fast without endanger other road users. The road was empty, clear and everything was (and hopefully is for the beautiful Swiss) fine.

No, I`m realy not hungry for a "head line" in your local magazine.

In the afternoon, I spoke to a dear friend of mine and also a user of this ferrarichat.com board.
He is realy used & experienced in high-speed tickets;-)...no I don`t mention his name here!
Its like I told you B4 in my posts - no problems.
Can tell you more by PM or Phone, sorry not here.
But the bad side, I won`t be able to drive / or visit you in the next 111 years in Switzerland.
I shouldn`t take the Swiss route to Italy for the next time.

Wolfgang
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Didier Debbaut (Spaceboy)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 9:16 am:   

wah..what a post. Like Trevi said : Never do races in Switzerland. Above 30km/h they can take your driver's license. And also driving that fast on public highways...nah...that's not so nice and a bit to dangerous. I'm sure you are a good driver and the car can deal with it, but the other drivers are NOT used to these speeds.

I really hope you will not have any problems with that speeding. Normally there should be an article in the newspaper. Above 190km/h it is already "big news" !

Didier.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:44 am:   

Trevi,
thats great!!! So, whats wrong on it????
100 + 80 + 80 = 260km/h
So I did it excactly...I`m a shopkeeper and I have learned to count together - what I did;-)))

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:37 am:   

bart,
that's gonna be a black/white thing. either nothing or the real big s...!
problem is 3 times in a sequence indicates that it wasn't a malfunction of the speed traps. the chances:
- speed too high, pictures blurred
- distance too close, front and rear plates do not fit
- speed too high, only the first (GT40) got caught.

wolfgang,
just for your information: the speed limit at the first trap was 100 km/h, at the other two it was 80 km/h.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:20 am:   

Trevi,
oh yes, I appreciate your idea. He should make me a serious cash offer...don`t need any bills for my free donations;-)

@Bart, you are absolut right! Time to change the car & plate!

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:16 am:   

hehehe...there will definitely be a huge donation, but not at all voluntary ;-)

maybe you should get in contact with the GT40 guy, so you may share the lawyers cost.

btw, i just remembered that i know a guy working for the police department of the canton Luzern, maybe he can tell me anything about it (anomymously of course), he is trustable, so i'll ask him with all due prudence.

trevi
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:13 am:   

Wolfgang, looks like a amazing meet, if it wasn't for those freaking speed traps.

Let's hope that it works out the right way (and I mean the cheap one :-)).

Pretty stupid to have 3 traps behind each other, but as you can see, pretty lucrative (sp?) aswell.

Good luck with your next trip to Switzerland, hopefully you have the TR by that time (and another license plate).
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:01 am:   

Trevi,
"P.S. if you were fast and close enough"
Fast enough = YES, 7.800rpm`s 5.gear
Close enough = YES, I could read his odometer thru his rear window;-)

Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 5:58 am:   

Trevi,
....maybe a huge voluntarily donation to the road maintenance depot?

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 5:52 am:   

unfortunately the other two speed traps following on this one are both of the same kind :-(

trevi

P.S. if you were fast and close enough, it could maybe be, that they got a front pic of the MK40 and a rear pic of you, and these wouldn't fit together.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 5:14 am:   

Trevi,

�����h, mhmm, w�rg, f***, sh.., $%&?'*
= $$$$$ ?????

Trevi, you made my day with this pic, thank you!!
Everything was fine till your last post.


A now a bit meditative
Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:44 am:   

" you can (barely) SEE the front flasher. "
forgot the word ;-)
Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:43 am:   

wolfgang,

this is the first speed trap, which caught you:
http://www.radar.ch/Bild.asp?catnr=100&seqnr=230
in the front there is the rear flasher, and on the level of the white delivery van behind the truck, you can (barely) the front flasher.

trevi
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:31 am:   

Trevi,
wrong - just front flashers;-)
"...just because of 10 km/h speeding!"
Mhmmm, that why they catched him;-)

Just spoke to Heiko over phone about our Italy trip 02.-08. October and we both decided to drive thru Austria this time.

Keep me updated about the Swiss Bild-Zeitung / Blick but I can`t believe that they will have pics or clear images....imposiible!

Thanks to pray for me - you are a real friend & gent

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:03 am:   

i'm not sure, these 3 speed traps have each 2 flashers, a front one and a rear one. of course i hope for the best for you and you'll have to wait, it may take quite a long time, however, i would not recommend you to come to Switzerland with your ferrari and the same license plate. if they really catched you and they control you at the border, then you will be arrested.
a friend of mine had the same story recently with rechtshilfebegehren and everything, just because of 10 km/h speeding!

however, the next time i'll check regularly the "Blick" headlines http://www.blick.ch (the Swiss type of "Bild"), then we will know.

good luck, trevi
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 3:43 am:   

Hey Trevi,

cool down, we will wait and see.
It was just front flashs and no rear flashs, fast driven (maybe too fast for the f*** machine) and very close together;-). Otherwise I will think about the "Simon-Methode"...you know?!?
I`m more angry about that I couldn`t CULL that GT40 beast after a wild hunting;-)))

Wolfgang
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Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 3:24 am:   

poor wolfgang!

didn't i tell you to be prudent in Switzerland, did I? didn't i mention geneva and lucerne??? are you f***ing crazy????!!!
everybody knows that! and if you can't stand it, then do at least a little google and you will find http://www.radar.ch/blechpolizisten.asp to avoid the worst and most obvious speed traps.

with that speed, the only thing you can do now is hope and pray that something went wrong with the pics. if not, it will cost you at least the hell alot a money, they will go after you and will do a "rechtshilfebegehren f�r eine Halterfeststellung". for the rest of the procedure i only say "gnade bei gott", and god is NOT a ferrari driver.

you're really stupid and i hope, you'll have luck, but usually, so much luck is impossible.

Pray!!
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 1:20 am:   

Hi gents and of course my friends from Switzerland - particularly from the Luzern surrounding,

I have told you about my trip last Saturday, Sunday from Heidelberg to Lugano and Milano.
Back home after 1.400 km and it was once again amazing with beautiful sunny weather the whole trip.

On the way to Lugano I crossed the Luzern area (yes, my thoughts have been with you Trevi). 20km B4 I came to Luzern a red FORD GT 40 passed me realy, realy fast. I was driving around 220-230 km/h and he overtakes me without any problems. (First 2 pics, sorry for the bad quality. Hard to handle over 200km/h and I have had no passenger to take the pics). I remebered:
"Don`t try to hunt what you can`t shoot!"
Too late, the race & the Luzern illumination has been already started.
Around 250km/h (the bastard was still in front of mine) the first double flash radar hit him first and me second....o.k. don`t care about go ahead. Just 1 km later the next double flash from a mounted radar hit us both (still in Luzern)again.
Still the GT40 in front and can`t catch him. Just 3 km after Luzern the next f**** radar hit us again- BINGO 3 times double flash....it realy sucks!!!! Are you total crazy in Luzern to set 3 radar points within 5 km`s?????
Next fuel station we take a break and breakfast together. I spoke to the GT40 owner and did some pics from his car. He came from Manchester, UK ans was on the way to Italy.
I`m not sure, but I think that I can`t drive the next time to Switzerland without a few smal problems;-)
Wolfgang
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