| Author | Message | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
Junior Member Username: 250lm Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2003 |
Although every system can be circumvented, the NAP seems to work alright. Since last year the Netherlands also obliged license plates for caravans and trailers (we used to use the same ID plate of your car). Since then many as stolen reported trailers came up again!!! | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 701 Registered: 12-2002 |
Just remember that high performance cars have a lot of motor oil and it takes time to warm it up. Sometimes even 50km or more. Ton | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 868 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hello Garretto, the first 30 km under 3.000rpm`s! Yes, its realy very, very important! There are over 9 liter oil and f.e. in the Testarossa 14 Liter Motor oil inside. Same with the big gear box...sorry don`t know exactly how much oil. It needs the time to warm up and go around the whole engine. A friend of mine has blwon his engine (cylinder-head-gasket) `cause he drove too fast with the cold engine. Most blown engines has been ruined by driven with cold motor oil. By the way, on most Ferraris, you can not get from the 1. gear to the 2. gear with a cold engine....have to wait! This has been discussed in several forums here at ferrarichat.com - try to look on the search function here. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| rdp (Garretto)
New member Username: Garretto Post Number: 11 Registered: 9-2003 |
Just read about that NAP system... it seems easy, cheap and trustworthy. Any ideas why it hasn't been implemented in other countries? BTW, Wolfgang, do you really need as much as 30 km under 3000 rpm to get all temps ok? Is that valid for most other cars or only for Ferrari? | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 811 Registered: 3-2003 |
Niels, thats fine;-) We gonna buy in the Netherlands the Ferraris with less km & drive the cars here in Germany. ....still working on your list! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2003 |
I know of 'high' milage Ferrari's but in the Netherlands you don't see them that often. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 809 Registered: 3-2003 |
Niels, a 100.000 km on a Ferrari is realy not unusual. A friend of mine in Munich drives a 308QV with now 185.000km on the odometer and still the first engine!!! If you take care of your car: Drive the first 30km with less than 3.000rpm`s, waiting for the right temperature and pressure. Doing all the services right in time....nothing can & will happen! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 40 Registered: 8-2003 |
Well, The NAP system was introduced several years ago. Many cars had odometres that where turned back, so they tried to find a system to reduce the chance to became a victim of this fraud. Every APK (Auto Periodieke Keuring), which is an obliged test for every car older than three years, the tester has to put the kilometers as read from the odo into the computer system. When this one is lower than the last entry, the system reacts it is an illogical odo! So than you know immediately that there has been tampered with. Same goes for dealers that get a car into their stock. If they check it, they see what they have. I even think that the insurance companies of the dealer ask their dealers to run all their new cars thru the system in order to be covered for any damage they might get later. However, I am not sure about that! As for the Dutch not driving much: it depends largely on what the car is used for. I, still being a student, live in a city in which I can do everything by walking or cycling. Much easier (and cheaper) than finding a parking place in the city center for instance. To circuits around Europe I sometimes get rides from other people. My work is located 15km away, but I work parttime (two days a week) In all, I think I do 10000-15000 km a year with the car at the moment. I bought my car from a guy that worked less than 5km from his work and he often took his bike to work, doing less than 7000 km/year. The first owner I do not know, but I think he did 70.000 km in six or seven years, so not much either. Just my luck. A friend of mine has a three year old Clio with more than 100.000 km on the odo and I know people who will do 50.000 km or more a year. So it all depends. But a Ferrari with much more than 100.000 on the odo, I have not seen much. As said before, you don't see them often just on the streets. From the 348 onwards the cars are driven more regularly. If you spot a Ferrari on the road overhere big change it is either a 355, 360 or Maranello. Niels | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 807 Registered: 3-2003 |
Niels, I haven`t heard anything before from this NAP system. Very, very intereting. We don`t have anything like this in Germany. Are the Netherlands all riding bicycle???? No kilometers on the odometers;-) I drive my toys: F 308QV from 1985 with 96.000 km Opel Astra 1994 with 155.000 km Yamaha XT 350...don`t know the year 45.000km BMW Z 3 1998 around 55.000km Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 39 Registered: 8-2003 |
Good luck with your search! BTW, my car (Nissan Sunny Coupe from 1990) was used as everyday car and in those 13 years it has accumulated 129.000 km right now. So less than 10.000 km/year. I think a TR should have half of that a year max. So a 1985 should have 90.000 km maximimum and probably half of that. Come to think of it, a friend of mine bought a Yamaha Thundercat (motorcycle) of two years old last year with 900 km on the odo so everything is possible. If you do not trust the odo or want to make sure, just walk in with any dealership in the Netherlands that has the NAP logo outside and ask them to run the car thru the computer. I think they should help you for free, I never tried it. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 806 Registered: 3-2003 |
Niels, very intriguing story! This makes it more understandable too me, thank you! I`m just on the phone to call some friends of mine in the Netherlands...let you know more soon. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 38 Registered: 8-2003 |
It is possible. A Testarossa can be a bit an impractical car here with many, many, many, many speed bumps etc. The Dutch culture is also one of envy instead of enjoying someone else his car! So many TRs are garage queens and will only drive around at Ferrari Club meetings etc. Two nice little stories. When I was a kid, the uncle of a friend of mine had a Mercedes dealership. One time he had traded in a Testarossa and was coming over to show the car. When he knocked on the door, everybody was looking for the Ferrari which wasn't there. 'What happened?' everybody asked. 'Well', the uncle said, 'I cannot drive over the speed bump in front of the residential area, so I had to leave the car there.' Other story of a 512 BB owner, which I took a ride with. "This car is only a pleasure to drive with at least 150 km/h on the speedo, and everytime I do that I get pulled over by the police. No fun at all.." He only used it for good causes and did far less than 3000 km a year with it. Bottom line, in general most Ferraris in the Netherlands are driven not as often as one might think. A Testarossa is even worse, since the car is quite wide. Try to park it in Amsterdam for instance, you would be very concerned with the others that park it next to you car (little space, so door banging etc. is very likely) So yes, I think those kilometers are genuine. You can always run by a dealer and ask for a NAP (Nationale Auto PAS) verification, which is a system that controls the kilometres of every car. Since a TR has to be tested periodically (APK) it should have some hits in the NAP. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 804 Registered: 3-2003 |
Niels, thanks again for your help. I`m wondering, all Ferraris are with real less km`s on the odometer?!?!? Try to call the sellers today. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2003 |
Found a coupe of others as well. I think this is almost everything that is for sale in this little country at the moment: Weird ads, no pics but low prices. Only a mobile telephone number! Could be a 'damaged' car, could be a private sale: Ferrari Testarossa Vraagprijs: � 36.500 Bouwjaar: 1985 Telefoon: 06-53235940 Tekst: Ferrari TESTAROSSA, bj. '85, IN ZEER GOEDE STAAT, vr.pr. � 36.500. 06-53235940. Ferrari Testarossa Vraagprijs: � 42.750 Bouwjaar: 1986 Kleur: rood Telefoon: 06-53331485 Tekst: FERRARI TESTAROSSA, bj. 1986, kmst 24.000, rood, beige leder, i.z.g.s., prijs � 42.750. Tel. 06-53331485. Ferrari Testarossa Vraagprijs: � 45.000 Bouwjaar: 1987 Kilometerstand: 21.000 Telefoon: 074-2766111 Tekst: Snellers.nl This is a dealer! These guys have always some exclusive cars for sale and I think they are often imported from other countries meaning they are not on Dutch title yet. It could be possible it still is for instance a German-titled car! | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 798 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Niels, wow, thanks a lot for your very long list of Testarossa`s...I�m impressed. Need some time to work thru your whole list....sounds so crazy to read things like: "Brandstof-Benzin" (Brand-Stuff) @Mat, this one realy sounds better and better too me. The phone number is just identical(+33 388-xxx) to my sister living in France 5 miles behind the border in 67470 Nieder-R�dern. So, I`m sure he speaks some German and I will call him. Maybe this is one more reason to meet my sister for a coffee;-) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2003 |
Yes, Havana means Tan... His number is +33 3 88 67 45 37. Do not hesitate to think that the 54K� requested in France mean 50K� ;-) I keep my eyes open on any other opportunities... Mat | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2003 |
Well, found some others. naam Opel Nefkens Amersfoort adres Amsterdamseweg 151 postcode 3812 RR plaats Amersfoort tel 033-4224444 fax 033-4224411 e-mail [email protected] website www.nefkens.nl They have one for less than 50k, but I think this car has had some severe damage in its live. bouwjaar 1988-07 bijzonderheden aan deze informatie kunnen geen rechten ontleend worden. km stand 33000 kleur ROOD brandstof Benzine deuren 2-deurs carrosserievorm Sportwagen transmissie Handgeschakeld 6-versn APK Onbekend prijs Eur 55.000,- aanwezige opties ABS, Alarmsysteem, Buitentemp. meter, Centr.vergrendeling, Elektr. ramen voor, Lederen bekleding, Lichtmetalen velgen, Metallic lak naam Cars2 adres De Scheper 305 postcode 5688 HP plaats Oirschot tel 0499-577627 fax 0499-578886 e-mail [email protected] website www.cars2.nl bouwjaar 1988-08 bijzonderheden Deze Ferrari heeft een complete inspectie gehad (incl. riemen e.d.) en is voorzienm van o.a. org. 5-gaats/arms velgen en rechterbuitenspiegel. Betreffende auto verkeert in een perfecte staat, zowel technisch als optisch !! km stand 46201 kleur Rood brandstof Benzine deuren 2-deurs carrosserievorm Coupe transmissie Handgeschakeld 5-versn motorinhoud 4943 cc vermogen 287 kW ledig gewicht 1580 kg APK Bij aflevering prijs Eur 53.250,- aanwezige opties Airconditioning, Alarmsysteem, Lederen bekleding, Lichtmetalen velgen naam Autobedrijf Paul van Bergen adres Faunastraat 11 postcode 6657 AX plaats Boven Leeuwen tel 0487-593580 fax 0487-592874 e-mail [email protected] website www.paulvanbergen.nl bouwjaar 1988-06 km stand 95500 kleur Rood brandstof Benzine deuren 2-deurs carrosserievorm Coupe transmissie Handgeschakeld 5-versn motorinhoud 4943 cc vermogen 287 kW ledig gewicht 1580 kg APK Bij aflevering prijs Eur 55.750,- aanwezige opties Alarmsysteem, Lederen bekleding, Lichtmetalen velgen naam Autobedrijf Van Haren adres Kerkstraat 21 postcode 6551 ZX plaats Weurt tel 024-6770007 fax 024-6778550 e-mail [email protected] website www.mazdavanharen.nl bouwjaar 1987-04 bijzonderheden Beige leder, riemen vervangen bij 65.000km, boekjes aanwezig km stand 69000 kleur Rood brandstof Benzine deuren 2-deurs carrosserievorm Coupe transmissie Handgeschakeld 5-versn motorinhoud 4943 cc vermogen 287 kW ledig gewicht 1700 kg APK Bij aflevering aanwezige opties Airconditioning, Alarmsysteem, Bumpers in carrosseriekleur, Centr.vergrendeling, Elektr. ramen voor, Elektr. buitenspiegels, Getint glas, Lederen bekleding, Lichtmetalen velgen, Radio/CD, Sportstoelen, Stuurbekrachtiging, Stuur hoogte verstelb. naam Snellers Auto's B.V. adres Koehortsmaat 12 postcode 7561 BM plaats Deurningen tel 074-2766111 fax 074-2780542 e-mail [email protected] website www.snellers.nl Ferrari Testarossa Prijs � 49.000,00 Transmissie - Bouwjaar 1988 Kilometerstand 39.000 km Brandstof Benzine Kleur - Carrosserievorm Coup� Aantal deuren 2 Opties / opmerkingen: 2 Deurs. 12-cilinder, airconditioning, alarmsysteem. orgineel Aanbieder Autobedrijf Piet Smedts B.V. Baarlo Lb Telefoon : 077-4772154 www.pietsmedts.nl The Netherlands has only two official dealers and they have some TRs for sale: www.munsterhuis.nl http://www.ferrari.nl/ As you can see, it is hard to find one below 50k overhere, at least at dealers. Private sales I have not seen yet. Good luck, Niels | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 797 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Matthieu, the `92 with the TR wheels sound very interesting. What the hell is "Havana" leather? Is this the same we call "tan"? Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 19 Registered: 9-2003 |
So : In fact, Dpt 75 means : Paris. The 90' TR is sold by a professionnal and warranted 3 months (+ 33 1 43 06 11 96), it is a black/black car, not a first hand, with Stainless Exhaust, Aircon. The 92' TR is Red/Havana, with 512 TR wheels, 1year warranty, maybe located near to the German border according to the Dpt number... Matthieu | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 794 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Matthieu, thank you very much for this informative link. Its good to see, that the prices are very close to the German market. The description is very poor and I`m missing the details...many questions. Two Testarossa from `90-`92 sounds preety good with less kilometers. But why don`t they tell us how many pre-owners they have had. What area is dependance 75? Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2003 |
Wolfgang, Just to give you an overview on the French market and prices, I give you an address below. Ok it is in french but you can see the main informations, and if any translation needed please tell me ! Anyway, the best way to see interesting add in France is Newspaper dedicated to Sport Cars small adds ! If you need, I can buy it and send it to you... Just let me know... http://www.lacentrale.fr/recherche_vehicule.php?popup=non&categorie=automobile&sous_categorie=berline&marque=FERRARI&energie=&prix_mini=&prix_maxi=&cp_1=&cp_2=&cp_3=&rechercher_x=26&rechercher_y=13&tri=&page=1 Matthieu | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 792 Registered: 3-2003 |
Matthieu, yep, we will ask Ulli next time. He is a real Rodeo-Master-Driver! 1. Gear up to 110km/h (68,75mph) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2003 |
Some people say : "Lambo is just a shape and an engine", but SUCH a shape and SUCH an engine ! I'd appreciate to make a rodeo trip in it ;-) Matthieu | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 791 Registered: 3-2003 |
Trevi, have you ever had the pleasure to drive such a beast? I did, and B4 I was thinking the same like you. After this drive (ride on a f*** rocket) I changed my mind. I will ask Ulli (you know him with the red Diablo) next time you will meet us. After this drive we will re-measure your blodd pressure...you can`t be immun enough;-) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
Junior Member Username: Trevi Post Number: 165 Registered: 5-2003 |
wolfgang, blood pressure still on normal level, no specific reaction measurable... ;-) | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 788 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Trevi, thats for you! The tractor event in May 2003...lots of peasons with tractors;-)  Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 787 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Niels, but 55K there is no "or near offer" to start. I know the prices & rules for inspection. I prefer to do the inspection at MY dealer. I don`t care about stamped service maps and bla, bla, bla. Mostly its just stamped but not done. I realy can tell you some great storys about this. I have got an biiiiig invoice from a Ferrari dealer changed belts, rolls, spark plugs, airfilter etc. A few weeks later I have been at my NOW Ferrari Garage and he called me to come and have a look on my car. He showed me a new belt but old rolls (New rolls on the invoice) He also showed me very old spark plugs and air filter from my car...never changed at the dealer but listed as brand new on the invoice...a.s.o. So, thats why I would prefer to do the inspection at MY garage. Just my thoughts about a 10K inspection. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2003 |
About the '91 TR, I think he just had the 2003 service done! Recent billof 12.000 Euro ex tax! I think I saw this car at the Arese delaership, but I am not 100% sure. That should have been this year that I saw it, so if that was the 2003 maintanance round, the price could be right. He also states in his ad he knows they are going for Euro 45.000 onwards, so I do not think he has to sell it quick. You might contact him and he might lower the price. Remember, it is the asking price! Wolfgang, I will keep you update on any TR's here for sale. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 786 Registered: 3-2003 |
Trevi, whats about MONACO or Lichtenstein???? Lamborghini: I would be very proud to be a peason and driving such a tractor;-) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
Junior Member Username: Trevi Post Number: 163 Registered: 5-2003 |
am i ever talking about tractors?????? don't have a statistic at hand, but what i always heard, in switzerland are the most ferraris per citizen in the world. don't forget, switzerland has about 7.5 mio inhabitants, not more! trevi | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 785 Registered: 3-2003 |
Trevi, I know, that Switzerland is absolut first and NO.1 on Lamborghini world-wide!...but on Ferrari, no sorry can`t believe it! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
Junior Member Username: Trevi Post Number: 162 Registered: 5-2003 |
matthieu proportionally to the number of citizen, switzerland is first by far! :-) trevi | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 784 Registered: 3-2003 |
Mat, well, well sad!!!! Of course the mobile.de market is a great place to find the perfect toy and never forget: All prices are just asking prices. 10% cash is usual in this business. Oh yes, I would appreciate you search on the French market very much. I know so less about the French market maybe you can enlight me a bit? Thanks in advance Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hello, Yes, I agree with Wolfgang, it's too expansive for a 91' TR model... Or for that price, the car should have the 2003 full service done and bills, with just the big maintenance done (something like 10.000� bill done). Something to be relax about the maintenance for the next 3/4 years let say (except of course the usual yearly check and maintenance as : oil/filters/plugs/liquides...). I guess the good car is findable on Mobile.de with seeling price lower or near 50K, in 1rst hand, very recently checked... You are so lucky to have such rich 2nd hand market in Germany, with so hugh and large choice of car, it's amazing ! You are, in proportion, the 1rst Ferrari market in the world (of course, if you consider the number of cars sold it is USA, but proportionaly to the number of citizen, Germany is first!!!!). In Germany people really love cars, that great ! I will have a look on the French market for TR... Mat ! | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 780 Registered: 3-2003 |
@Niels, thanks a lot for your link & info about the `91 Testarossa. I appreciate every info on my search very much. I have had a look on the web-site and found the car. But IMO its realy too expensive for a Testarossa. For the same price I can buy a 512TR. A resonable price would be less than 50K. Anyway, thanks a lot and please keep me updated for any more Testa`s in the Netherlands. Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member Username: 250lm Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2003 |
Wolfgang, There is an advertisement at www.marktplaats.nl of a '91 TR in the Netherlands. Asking Euro 55k. Description looks good: Ex-Spain, since 1998 in the netherlands. Current owner has it for three years. Red/tan. Original Ferrari/Becker stereo with books. Service manual and bill from 2000. 55.000 KM. Recent new clutch, new exhaust, new Michelin "Pilot sport" [7000 KM]. new brake pads.[12.000 Euro ex tax] Complete with original car-cover, seat covers, original brochures. Have been maintained by the Dutch importer. Niels | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 779 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bart, in 5 years ...you a married / much more expensive and (mostly) a life time payaccount;-) in another 5 years years....children are coming / you need a van-family wagon. Yes, I tell you the truth! Thats why I have bought my first Ferrari with 40 years  Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2002 |
Hello Wolfgang, I wasn't serious about buying a replica, never ever in my life  And these student years aren't the best for my bankaccount so I don't think I will be able to buy your 308. But thanks for the offer, maybe in 5 years, when you are selling your TR, I'll be in the market for an F-car. (at least that's my aim right now) Bart | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 778 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bart, please be serious and don`t buy a replica,,,if you can get for a few more bucks the real one! You know, I`m on the way to buy a testarossa and selling my 308QV at www.mobile.de. Here is the link: http://www.mobile.de/SIDmqeNyDNY4t0ppV4khNgeCg-t-vaNexlCsAsK%F3P%F3R~BmSB10LsearchPublicJ1064419399A1LsearchPublicCCarX-t-vctpLtt~BmPA1A1B20B13l-t-vMkMoSm_xsO~BSRA6D8600G308%FF%A0GTSF308GTSA0A0/cgi-bin/da.pl?bereich=pkw&id=11111111126218595&top=7& For a ferrarichat.com member its a pleasure for me to lower the price, no I`m not kidding! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 467 Registered: 9-2002 |
Matthieu, that's a good one It looks really real to me though ;) (NOT !!) Thanks for looking out for a cheap F-car Any other suggestions are welcome, haha. Bart | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2003 |
Wolfgang, I was also laughing a lot at your animation !!!! Excellent ;-) Mat | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 777 Registered: 3-2003 |
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!! What I think about  Rekplikas! I want a REAL one  !!!! PLeeeeeeeeease no Replikas  ! But thanks, you make laughing again;-) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Gladieux Matthieu (Sferrari)
New member Username: Sferrari Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2003 |
Bart, I found a very interested post, a Testarossa for less than 13K� ! It looks to be a good opportunity for real F fanatic : http://www.mobile.de/SID4gzPj933vxX8.bqJAjEvog-t-vaNexlCsAsK%F3P%F3R~BmSB10LsearchPublicJ1064412107A1LsearchPublicCCarX-t-vctpLtt~BmPA1A1B20B33s-t-vMkMoSm_xsO~BSRA6D8600JtestarossaJTESTAROSSAA0A0/cgi-bin/da.pl?top=2&bereich=pkw&id=11111111117851364& Wolfgang, I got your beloved TR for reasonnable price ! Matthieu ;-) | ||
| Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member Username: Malfark Post Number: 464 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yup - one zero missing!! MARK | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 770 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bart, I will beat Martin;-) 20K CASH in max. 5 hours! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 6213 Registered: 5-2001 |
Bart, buy it I will take if of your hands for E15,000. You can double your profit here. | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 768 Registered: 3-2003 |
ups, wow good to CU TON! Seems we will have some fun tonight?! Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345 Post Number: 767 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hey Bart, GO FOR IT!!!! ...for 6.900,- bucks and lease a lawyer to make it happen for 6.9K. :-))) Wolfgang FORZA FERRARI | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 680 Registered: 12-2002 |
Bart, It must be � 69.000! Ton | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 466 Registered: 9-2002 |
Yeh I thought so aswell, but then again, you'd never know I was wondering if it should have read 16900, but that would be cheap aswell. Never figured that it could have been a left out 0 at the end. | ||
| David Mcguire (Matkat)
Junior Member Username: Matkat Post Number: 76 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bart have you thought that this "maybe" a mis-print and it should read 69,000� ? | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 465 Registered: 9-2002 |
I read in the dutch FCN magazine that there was a 355 for sale for 6900 euro's. It's a red on black, in race condition, around 5000 km. Parts for rebuild back to streetlegal available. 2 exhausts, multiple wheels (probably 4 ;)) Damage free. A 355 for under 7000 euro's ???? Must be a fault or not ? What do you guys think of this ? Bart |