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Andy Barre (Abarre)
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Username: Abarre

Post Number: 47
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 2:11 pm:   

Love mine, but I went into it conservatively. Shopped around for about a year until I found a REALLY nice example that wouldn't be a resto-project. Then I immediately did a 30K service and clutch job, new tires, etc...

Everything on the car works. But it is constant attention to keep it that way.

I would not enjoy owning this car on a shoestring budget. Parts are ridiculous $$. Also, the looming threat of internal engine/tranny work would be nervewracking if you can't deal with the occasional $1-5000 (or more!) surprise.

Another non-monetary drawback is that the average person believes ANY Ferrari must have cost a fortune. One moron sitting next to me at a stoplight made a comment about how stupid people are that spend over $150K for a car just to make themselves feel important. I didn't point out that his brand-new Navigator cost him almost twice what I paid for my Mondial....

All that said, it's worth it for the pride of ownership. The noise it makes is worth the price of admission...
Dave (Dave)
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 586
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:22 am:   

Oh I forgot the good one yesterday,
"What dat Lambo do"
Dave (Dave)
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 585
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:20 am:   

Bingo Terry, .... "Wow, how much did you have to pay for THAT"
or my personal favorite... "What's on the Dash"
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355

Post Number: 2506
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 8:59 am:   

Expensive to own, not terribly reliable, but some of the most fun I've had in a long time.

Art
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Username: Tspringer

Post Number: 791
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 8:26 am:   

The upside is of coarse the looks, sounds, driving experience and the history of the cars.

Downside is people in hothatches wanting to race you, sometimes unwanted attention (a 308 often draws quite a crowd) and lots of moronic questions. "Wow, how much did you have to pay for THAT" is not my favorite!
Kds (Kds)
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Username: Kds

Post Number: 133
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 7:47 am:   

I have never owned one...but for ownership experience I did have the daily use of a 97 355 Spider for 2 weeks last June before I sold it.

I hated the attention..........How much ? How fast ? How much horsepower ? Putting gas in the damn thing was an exercise in annoyance more than anything else because of the people and the constant questioning.

Other than that.......great car !!!!
Michael Vaughan (Vanimal)
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Username: Vanimal

Post Number: 57
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 6:58 am:   

The good ;-)
# The feeling you get when you walk up to her
# The feeling you get as you get in
# The feeling when the engine starts
# The feeling you get when as you drive of, and every miles passes by - one of the best experiences in life.

The BAD! :-(
# Paying over the odds for mass produced components found in other cars but earmarked for Ferrari
# Speed bumps and excessive entry and exit angles to malls, garages etc.
# Some of the speeds of todays disposable mass produced offerings
#Cambelt services - get real - (but we are supporters of the cause).

All in - its the best way to spend your cash, and the best way to get frustrated - ever.
Darryl - TR&328 (Tr328)
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Username: Tr328

Post Number: 60
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:21 pm:   

Good - driving, sound, attention, feeling, power beneath your feet.
Bad - The bill from the mechanic, high cost of maintenance and parts, no reason parts should cost so much, when it needs service or broke down, the feeling of how long is it going to be in the shop. Not a poor mans toy.
Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
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Username: Ferruccio

Post Number: 127
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:38 pm:   

"Beg, borrow or steal one and drive it right. Your life will never be the same."
I agree 100 percent Thank you Mike Charness and Dr Erick (For letting me drive there F cars!)
Chris McKay (Mrmckay)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:22 pm:   

I couldn't have said it better Tazio.
martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
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Post Number: 1166
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 8:41 pm:   

Well said,Tazio.
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Username: Arlie

Post Number: 1461
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 7:52 pm:   

Lawrence said: "3. Driver's feet are to the right of driver's butt."

One of the first things that I noticed when I sat in a 308 was the annoyance of the left front wheel well protruding into the foot well and the "over to the right" feeling of the pedals. While the overall design necessitates this bit of engineering, at least I now know that my observations weren't totally the actions of a Ferrari neophyte. Interesting that a veteran owner feels that same way that I did.

L. (Testaroja)
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Username: Testaroja

Post Number: 134
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 7:42 pm:   

Ferraris are about the most fun there is, but the 30,000 mile service is the worst thing there is about owning a flat 12.
The 328 is about perfect fun and a very cheap major service
William H (Countachxx)
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Username: Countachxx

Post Number: 2882
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 6:36 am:   

Ive had a few mechanical gremlins like I had to replace the circuit board & the tranmissions are weak but there is Nothing!!!! on the road as gorgeous as my 512TR :-) & few things on the sidewalk that can compete either LOL
Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
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Username: Shelbee

Post Number: 454
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:17 pm:   

Good things: no regret

Bad things: create jealousy to some morons
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1668
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:41 pm:   

I think the only thing I'd disagree with in the comments below is that on my car, EVERYTHING works, and works well.

Having said that, I'll have to admit that my car is a 1975, and there is, uh, like 2 switches or so on the entire car.
Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari)
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:11 am:   

Ferrari ownership is tangeable proof that love is blind. Once you own one you fully realize that Italian 'hand-built' cars are not better built than mass produced vehicles. You also dispel the widely held public myth that spending that much on a car must assure you of the 'BEST' product out there.

I admit that I am a total fool for owning a Ferrari but such is the price of love; I would'nt want it any other way.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr

Post Number: 2042
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:54 am:   

A recent (very inciteful IMO) post from ken rentiers on the FerrariList:

(start quote)

I know there are a lot of lurkers on the board who dream of someday
getting a Ferrari. If so read these rules, I have been through the
experience of Ferrari ownership. Will I get another - yes, but with my
eyes wide open. My hope is these Tin Commandments serve to give you
some of the same insight I now possess.

The Tin Commandments

1. Ferraris are toy cars.
- Street going Ferraris are intended as playthings for rich gentlemen
with many cars, and someone else to polish them. They are the worst
possible choice as a sole means of transportation. There are people on
this list who use Ferraris as daily drivers. These folks are also
capable of changing their crankshaft bearings after dinner.

2. Most buyers pay way too much for Ferraris.
- New Ferraris sell for a quarter million because there are 1.000
people a year in the USA who will pay that much. If you are not
employed by the NBA, a trust baby and/or don't know what 'bling-bling'
is your choice will be restricted to used Ferraris. The prices quoted
in FML are accurate ASKING prices. Most cars sell for 15 or 20 percent
less and down. There are lots of cars available, right now it's a
buyer's market. If you can't keep the lust under control have someone
else buy the car for you.

3. There is no such thing as a Ferrari where everything works.
- On big airliners where all systems have redundancy the pilot keeps a
clipboard of Things To Fix. Often there are a dozen or more items. Get
a small clipboard for you Ferrari. You will need it.

4. Old Ferraris are old, unreliable cars.
- IF properly serviced the drive-train is stone, cold dependable. Not
the air, not the seats or the top or anything electrical or hydraulic
except the brakes. Windows, doors, handles, lights will give you grey
hair. Remember 308s are now 20 - 30 year old cars that weren't reliable
when they were new.

5. New Ferraris are new, unreliable cars.
- Why? Because so few are made they never get all the bugs worked out.
With a list like this and a year or two and $5,000 - $10,000 you can
pretty well debug a good car. Double that figure for garage queens.

6. Mileage is good, not bad for a Ferrari.
"88 328 - only 1,500 miles" This car should have marks all over it
from ten foot poles. You will essentially have to rebuild the car and
still there will be surprises. Look for 5,000 miles a year average on
the car of your choice and a GOOD service record.

7. If you can find a Ferrari part it will be ex-pen-sive.
- A 328 windshield is over $2,000. Why? Because it's a FERRARI!

8. All Ferraris are red.
- Save the less common color schemes for your second or third example.
If you want to get out with your skin intact buy a red car.

9. Ferraris are like trophy wives, they are very expensive to keep.
- You don't hot rod a Ferrari because they are already hot rods as
they leave the factory. As high performance engines they require
frequent service. A minor service is several thousand dollars every
15,000 miles, A major service can be 5 - 10 thousand dollars and more
if you have a 12 cylinder car. Every 30,000 miles. Really.

10. If you buy a Ferrari you will need another car as well.
- Unless you just love riding the subway.

11. Unless you have an Enzo, someone faster is always out there, but
they are not having anywhere near as much fun.
- If you have never driven a Ferrari this may sound obscure. Beg,
borrow or steal one and drive it right. Your life will never be the
same.

(end quote)
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 971
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:45 am:   

"2. Very large turning radius. "

I thought that is what 1st gear and judicious use of the clutch and throttle was for.......

"The Ferrari is MUCH cheaper than a wife. "

Especially if you ever have to get rid of one....
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 2352
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:30 am:   

The Ferrari is MUCH cheaper than a wife. But you might have to hide what you're spending on the Ferrari, the little maintenance bills add up fast.
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
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Username: Airbarton

Post Number: 701
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:05 am:   

Dave, I always tell everyone my Ferrari is the "other woman" in my life. I can't help it but have a love affair with both! Every time I take the horse out for a little run I remember why I put up with her crap! I bet you can figure out how this relates to women!
Dave White (Dwhite)
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Username: Dwhite

Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 8:42 am:   

Charles I agree my ferrari is like my wife some times I drive her crazy and some times I drive her wild.
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member
Username: Airbarton

Post Number: 700
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:45 am:   

I am going into my second year of ownership and all I can say is my Ferrari is much like my wife. Sometimes she drives me crazy and other times she drives me wild! One other thing, she gets mad when I don't spend money on her!
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
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Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 743
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:11 am:   

I have owned a 328 for 15 years. I really like it and plan to keep it indefinitely.

In my opinion, the worst things about the car are:

1. Hot winshield in summertime due to radiator blast hitting winshield making it hot on driver's side.

2. Very large turning radius.

3. Driver's feet are to the right of driver's butt.

4. Cost of parts.

Best attributes:

1. Styling

2. Sound

3. Lack of mechanical problems

4. Exclusivity
William H (Countachxx)
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Username: Countachxx

Post Number: 2876
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 6:40 am:   

its all pretty good, When I get the bill from the mechanics I just remind myself that I am helping to put his kids through college :-) LOL
Lee Hamner (Tennlee)
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Username: Tennlee

Post Number: 174
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 5:49 am:   

Not sure what "bads" are, but there are none associated with Ferrari, unless you been "Hey, that car is bad!"
P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
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Username: Ferrari_fanatic

Post Number: 573
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:26 am:   

It's all good. And no I was not trying to be hip. LOL
Jay Grande (Jay)
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Username: Jay

Post Number: 1486
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:21 am:   

Well, everything costs about $1000.00 LOL :-)

Or just move the decmal over to the right a few digits. For example a brake booster should be around $100.00 but for the Ferrari 308 just move the decimal over 1 place and you get the actuall Ferrari price of $1000.00. Never say the "F" word (Ferrari)!
John M.Pisacane (Chazferrari)
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Username: Chazferrari

Post Number: 18
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:12 am:   

~Chaz~

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