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Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:32 pm:   

The 'low class' labels aside, my main fear for not getting a Cavallino tattoo (which has crossed my mind, after seeing a German dude with a sweet SF Shield on his calf) was that I'm so young my tastes and interests could change.

Who knows, maybe I'll actually buy an F-car in 3 yrs and have a terrible experience, only to find my real driving preference is a P-car or a Lambo or even Mercedes (I'm not saying it WILL, but it COULD). I was even worried to go to Maranello as I might not have enjoyed my visit and tainted my feelings (which turned out to be an awesome day-trip... even though as a non-owner I couldn't see the factory inside).
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 5739
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   

BTW I always wanted to get the logo from Queen from the cover of "A Night at the Opera" as a tattoo.
Almost did it when I was 16 on the Boardwalk in NJ in 1985.

...and I would still wear it proud!
will h (Willh)
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   

Bizarre turns these threads can take. How about a pic of the shield tattoo?

Anyway, recently at dinner I admired a waiter's tattoo, elaborate, colorful, quite the work of art. I told my wife it might be interesting to get a tattoo - really just thinking out loud, have managed to avoid piercings, probably never will get "ink." Wife's immediate, emphatic reaction was sort of a mix of some of the negative comments here - gross, low class, you'll regret it, etc - then she thought for a minute, brightened considerably, and said, "you could get a tattoo of my name ...."

PS Racer Nika, nice site, I see Mishael Abbott race FMs from time to time and seems she has really picked up her pace, looking better and stronger.
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Post Number: 2680
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:06 pm:   

NICE POST MARTIN..............

FRANK ,
TAKE HIS ADVICE, MAYBE YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING....

MY FATHER NEVER FINISHED H.S..AND RETIRED AT 60..VERY SUCCESFUL MAN...DEGREES MEAN .....
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 5738
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   

"I wonder about a person's judgment when I see them going into a church. "

LOL Des, I wonder about those all the time! :-)

Frank,
with all the degrees I have, I learned one thing: They are worthless and do not make you a better person nor show good judgement. In most cases the contrary was the case. Those that have wasted time for degrees have lost years of life opportunity to fulfill their dreams. When I was 21 my friends were studying law and al the other crap while I was driving Ferraris through town having the time of my life making tons of money. Today those that studied law still live in small rental apartments making minimum wage because nobody needs them. A good freind of mine stopped studying medicine, his absolute dream job since I knew him, because he knew by the time he can go into his own practice he will be 40+ years old and will have to take a loan of about 500,000 German Marks to open his own office. He will have to work 15 years to repay that loan and by 55 will start making money.

What good is a doctorate? My brother in law (my gae) has one in law. Yep he is a Doc. Jur. at age 34, actually got his Doc at age 28 if I remember correctly.

The wise a*s kid on the street taking the lemonade stad public and franchising it gets more respect from me that the "loser" spending the parents money in tuition. Besides that street kid will be able to afford 6 DINOs faster that the degree ridden study boy.

Take DES while we have it:

He has great writting skills. He is a true Ferrari/Exoti car enthusiast and combining both will be able to unleash a new Magnum PI story that may be bought by a network and next thing you know DES is DEServingly rich with money.

Besides using a guy that is in his 20s to compare to your XX Years more of life...wait till he is your age and see his accomplishments. When you were DES's age I am sure you were still sitting in your dorm working on the next paper due!
Joe V. (Jts)
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Post Number: 15
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:52 am:   


quote:

Um, DES, that guy in your "wiggly underwear" graphic is famed British comic Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) who is a REAL car nut.




True - apparently he collects and races lots of hot cars. I only heard about his love of cars when I read a couple of years ago that he crashed his McLaren F1 (rear-ended someone in a Rover Metro, whatever that is) and then ran down the road with photographers in hot pursuit.
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5762
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:34 am:   

BRASS...!

Whew...!

i haven't seen you all day...! i was starting to get nervous...! Finally, a regular heartbeat... Busy today, buddy...? i bet... That's ok... You slap 'em around a bit, lick a few lips, stick 'em to the wall shtup their asses good, right...? Yeah, you silly b!tch, you... i'm crazy like that... i'll sell anything... Gimme a tank, i'll sell that, too, i'm crazy...
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Post Number: 2677
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:32 am:   

FRANK

WHY ALL THE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS DES??

HES A GREAT GUY, DID YOU WAKE UP ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BED TODAY??

COME ON MAN, LIGHTEN UP..

BRUCE

DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5761
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:29 am:   

Dave, sorry, i had no idea he was a car nut... i just posted it 'cause it looks funny - i actually thought of you when i found it (in a weird but platonic way, so don't be afraid; don't be very afraid:-))

Frank, i think Nika knew those things wouldn't get one into heaven when she said it - that's why she said it. There's a clue in there for you; when you find it, let us know, mkay...?
Racer Nika (Racernika)
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:29 am:   

If I was a gambler I would of placed a bet that you'd bring up "chick" again back to the time you insulted my character because I am a racerchick and I run www.racerchicks.com -- need I remind you again the Webster's dictionary meaning ......it is a term of endearment....and the site is not meant for the uptight - it's informative and entertaining (you are just the latter)

Need I tell you again about my website that without any advertising has helped many women racers in their quest to better themselves both on and off the race track.


You stand on your pedestal Frank - look at ALL your accomplishments - but the one thing you will NEVER earn is respect from Des and myself.....and really that is a rare treasure for anyone to achieve.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Post Number: 2614
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:25 am:   

Um, DES, that guy in your "wiggly underwear" graphic is famed British comic Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) who is a REAL car nut.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Post Number: 2837
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:20 am:   

Racer Nika, again you are wrong. Degrees and licenses will get you NOTHING at the gates of heaven, nor will tattoos. You need to be careful about what you're so "sure" of. By the way, what happened to you "chick" handle ?
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5759
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:10 am:   

Nika, you continue to flatter me, even just by mentioning my name... My feelings mirror your own; thank you.

Dave, LOL, i have no idea what you just said... :-)
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5758
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:08 am:   

Frank, i agree you've excercised good judgment in acquiring your doctorate and the various licenses you currently hold; still, though, you continue to excercise lethargically poor judgment by judging people... Mentioning you've owned 6 "full scale" Ferraris is not good judgment - owners of inexpensive, reliable moDES of transportation would beg to differ; owning 6 "full scale" Ferraris just shows that you own 6 "full scale" Ferraris; nothing more.



quote:

When I look out at the world it seems most of the people I see with tattoos are people that often excercise bad judgement not only in getting the tattoo, but in other more important factors in life such as God, education and family.



Here's your problem; you're judging people... Who are you to say what decision is best for another person...? Maybe you think god is more important for yourself, but to make that assumption for someone else is just wrong, dude... just plain wrong.

Judgement is a variant of judgment; a colloquial variant. Only the latter is formal. How many 1:18 models are equivalent to a tattoo is another relative question. Depends on the tattoo and the model.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

DES, I just LOVE that graphic of Rowan Atkinson.......

...who is as commited a car fanatic as you are!!!

:-) :-) :-)
Racer Nika (Racernika)
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:57 am:   

Frank - there are people that strive to be the best they can be - and there are others that can only "higher" themselves by lowering those around them - you are the latter.

I would rather be the world's best tattoo artist then the world's worst attorney. Your arrogance and "high almighty" attitude made me realize I am honored to call Des my friend - he has more personality, class and accomplishment then you will ever achieve.

Take take your licenses and degrees and show them at the gates of heaven - I'm sure they will get you far

Oh - I do not have a tattoo nor would I EVER get one

Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:36 am:   

DES, I never said I was superior to you or anyone else for that matter. I only indicated that I have excercised good judgement over the years as reflected by my accomplishments. I do not believe one excercises good judgement by getting a tattoo. When I look out at the world it seems most of the people I see with tattoos are people that often excercise bad judgement not only in getting the tattoo, but in other more important factors in life such as God, education and family. By the way, judgment and judgement are both proper. Do what you want,I don't care. But, think how many 1/18th scale Ferrari models you can buy for the price of a tattoo ?
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:18 am:   

Frank, if i need to emulate your character to even own ONE Ferrari, i'd be perfectly happy with a Saturn for the rest of my life...

A doctorate and so many licenses in so many things and you still see some people as inferior. LOL... What makes someone a lowlife because they're a tattooist...? The place i had mine done was a nice little place in CT; the artists wore shirts and ties, used new materials for each customer and cleaned them right in front of you; very professional... Beauty Mark is the name of the place, i believe; i would definitely recommend them...

Frank, i don't know if they have doctorates in anything, so they're probably inferior to you, sorry... i wonder why you think you've had pretty good judgment over the years because you have so many licenses... Do you really think they make you better than other people who don't have those licenses...? Do you think you're superior to others because you have a doctorate and so many licenses...? Are you better than me because you own a real Ferrari and i don't...? Do you really think you're better than someone because they have a tattoo and you don't...?


...and don't you think the variation 'judgement' (2 'E's) is a bit colloquial for someone with a doctorate and so many licenses...?
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:51 am:   

Well DES, you may call me a loser, but when I look in the mirror I don't have to look at the inferior work of man you call art. All I see is the beauty God created. And, as a loser I have earned enough to own 6 FULL SCALE Ferrais and/or Dinos over the years, have you ? As a loser I hold a doctorate degree, am a licensed attorney, licensed pilot, certified diver, coastguard certified sailor and certified NFL agent. So it seems I have had pretty good judgement over the years. Part of that good judgement was to not allow some lowlife to stick needles with dye in my body to paint some kind of picture on me. How about you ?
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Post Number: 2354
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:42 am:   

Dave has some tattoos:

http://shop.vendio.com/sodacom/item/541880094/index.html
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:36 am:   

Where can I get some Ferrari shield temp tattoos? My kid would love it. I would love to wear one to the local car shows too.... perhaps on my forehead!
P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
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Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

Mike Tyson has a "new" tatoo (he got it about 1 year ago). It is on his face and makes him look like Zorro. Although it looks entirely ridicilous, I don't think anyone would tell him how silly it looks if they valued their life or did not want their ear bitten off. LOL
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:29 am:   

Thanks, Pat... Some of these guys make me wonder...

Upload
Terry (Dogue)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:28 am:   

For the last few years or so I have thought about getting a Ferrari tattoo, but have always ended up deciding to save the money for an actual Ferrari someday. I have one tattoo that I got when I was 18, I don't regret it, but if I hadn't done it then, I probably would not have one at all. The problem with them is that most people get them when they are very young and it doesn't take long before you find something that is much more important to you than the symbol you marked yourself with. I was really set on going to school to become a Marine Biologist when I got the Shark on my calf, but that never happened. I still like the tattoo, but for it to look really good I need to get it touched up and that is really not a priority for me now. If I had gotten one when I was in highschool, when I REALLY WANTED ONE, I would very much regret it now, because it would have been some stupid Punk Rock thing that would only make me look like an old dork today. I have met many people also that have symbols on them and when you ask what it means they say "oh its a tribal symbol" well what the hell does that mean. to go through the pain and danger to get something permanent on your body and then to not even know what it means, seems very silly to me.

P.S. depending on the location and design, some tattoos are sexy to me, on the ladies.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:28 am:   

The only tattoo I've ever had were Ben's Ferrari Shield tattoos. By the way Ben, I'm out! :-)
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:23 am:   

Great post DES! I'm right here with you. (but I only have one. Having a Tatoo in no way makes anyone a loser and for Dino Frank to even make a statement like that shows his ignorance.

Pat
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 9:18 am:   

Lawrence, you're being a bit of a hard ass, don't you think...?

It's all relative as to what's "easier" to "remove"; it's not so easy to "remove" someone from a church; it's not so easy to "remove" someone from a relationship with someone else...

Your statement was a complete waste of a post and i'm equally foolish for replying... i wonder about a person's judgment when they make narrow-minded statements and tell ME to go look in the mirror...
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 8:39 am:   

DES:
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see they own a Ferrari.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see a necklace around their neck or bracelet around their wrist.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see them going into a church.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see them with someone of a different race.
Think about how irrationally dumb those statements are; now think about how equally dumb the original statement is.

Each of the above is easily changed. A tatoo is not easily removed. Perhaps you should take a good look in the mirror.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:33 am:   

Ben,

you're right on!

Guys do whatever you want, I could care less.

But why ruin a perfectly beautiful girl by writing all over her?

Vincent.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   

DES- pretty much agree with you, thought perhaps not so vhenimently :-) One exception: I personally have seen so many people who get tatoos, then later regret it, that I do observe a trend, and can say with as close to authority as one can get, that I would not get one, and that most people getting one today I would try to talk out of the idea to save them future heartache (and wallet trauma.)

It's like sticking a poker into your hand. Not particularily bright in my opinion, and I'll try to talk you out of it infact. But I WILL defend to the death your RIGHT to do it to yourself :P (if that makes any sense.)

Then again, some people love tatoos, more power to you guys! Certinly exotic cars, HiFi audio systems, airplanes, visual effects, and other miscelanious stuff I like is HARDLY sane ;)

Best!
Ben.

PS: pretty much don't care what people do to themselves, but I have to admit tatoos on girls I find to be a total turnoff!
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:08 pm:   

DES,

You just tore Frank a new A-hole.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:56 pm:   

Mark, ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!

Sorry--I will never make that mistake again!!
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:13 pm:   

Dave
Just want to set something straight before you start. Lamborghini drivers do not wear "necklaces" those are GOLD chains.

Upload
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 8:06 pm:   

I don't see "loser" when I see a person with a tattoo, or with a pierced (fill in name of body part here),but I do see a person who has relegated themselves to a lower level of income than they could achieve. Not bad or good--just is. Nothing magical about making a lot of money or having lots of career success, if you choose not to...but this artistic "expression" is a severely limiting factor.

I predict tatoo removal will be a HUGE growth industry in the next 10 years. No joke.

Now, ask me what I think of men who wear bracelets and non-religious necklaces...

:-)
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 7:43 pm:   

How can you dub someone a loser for having a tattoo...? How can "wonder about someone's judgment" merely because they've inked themselves in the meaning of art...?

LOL, that's gotta be the dumbest @#$%ing crap i've heard in a while...!

Granted, i have two tattoos, so my position on this may be biased, but then let's replace 'tattoos' with something else; this is what we have to work with:
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see: _________

I wonder about a person's judgment when I see they own a Ferrari.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see a necklace around their neck or bracelet around their wrist.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see them going into a church.
I wonder about a person's judgment when I see them with someone of a different race.

Think about how irrationally dumb those statements are; now think about how equally dumb the original statement is.

What makes someone a 'loser' if they have a tattoo...? Is it 'cause they spent money on it...? Is it 'cause you can see it...? i wonder if you know anyone you like/respect and they have a tattoo you don't know about... Tattoos are a form of expression; who are you to put down another person's form of expression as long as it's legal and not hurting anyone or infringing on anyone's rights, etc, etc, etc....? Anyone...? Bueller...?

Yeah, thanks.

People who make statements like those are losers. i have to wonder about a person's judgment when they make statements like that.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 6:22 pm:   

BobD, you are correct. The guy I go to has offices in Dallas, Tyler and just opened one in Houston last week. He has the contract from the state for released convicts to remove their gang signs etc to help reacclimate them. He does stuff for military entrants too. Also, I think the state pays for removal for anyone under the age of 18 to give them a fresh start. He has those contracts too. Still room for more, but he agrees that in 5 to 15 years there will be a huge wave of removals.

When I was in there there were 2 post college girls getting panthers off their thighs and a big L (like lavern and shirley) on the back of her neck. Name was Lisa, drunk tattoo.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 6:16 pm:   

Ben- A Temp SF tatoo would be a great laugh at the next show/track-day/drive. Bring some next time, and I'll join you in the self-expression!

Best!
Ben.
BobD (Bobd)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:42 pm:   

There have been a lot of threads here recently regarding potential business opportunities. I predict the tatoo removal business will be HUGE in 5 years. One of you need to franchise this opportunity and pay me only 10% for the idea. :-)

Nika... from a butterfly to a condor. LOL!
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:34 pm:   

So lets just say at the end of the day you don't know what to believe in and are so frustrated that you end up with a tattoo.

Okay okay that wine during mess really pushed you over the edge! :-)
Branko Medenica (Branko)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:30 pm:   

Martin, that was an incredible bit of commentary. My hat is off to you.
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   

Terry: Yep, isn't it nice to be under grace instead of under old testament law? Most folks think there were just 10 commandments... they forget about the 613 precepts, some of which Martin quoted.

Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

Question on #5. If I hire somebody to kill the sabbath violator and the killer performs the act on a Sunday, am I obligated to hire yet another killer to kill killer number one for violating the sabbath?
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:40 pm:   

Good stuff Martin! Let me see if I can help here:

1. Smite the neighbors with the cow tongue, wet with BBQ sauce. Most come around pretty quick.

2. I dont know? Is she blond or brunnett and how old is she?

3. Check their purse. If they are unclean, they will probably have a tampax on them. If so... just walk away immediatly!

4. You can indeed purchase both Canadian and Mexican slaves. However, I highly recommend Mexican. The Canadians expect free healthcare and for you to do everyting for them while they dont have to lift a finger. The Mexicans expect very little and work hard. Thats only if you dont live in CA.

5. No. You may pay someone else to kill him. The going rate for a Sabbath violation killing is $500. You can get Govt. reimbursement by filing IRS form 1092-AA.

6. Homosexuality is actually worse. Then again, I have heard of a rare sect that practices homosexuality WITH certain shellfish. Only allowed in months that include an "R".

7. If your eyesight is good enough to read the verse you quote.... it hits the standard. If not, the penalty is death by #6.

8. Actually, modern interpretations allow cutting of all hair except toe hair. If you cut your toe hair... its death by pork. Feed the offender to wild pigs.

9. Yes, but the gloves must be made of Nylon or Rayon.... no leather.

10. Burning with the family is acceptable, but not as much fun. Go with the stoning. Get the whole town together. Throw in a picnic and turn it into an event the kids can enjoy.


Really.... Im plenty glad that Christ freed us from those laws.

I have always been seriously puzzled by the orthodox Jews. They supposedly believe the old testament Jewish law must be kept, yet they clearly pick and choose which ones. To my knowlege they dont sacrifice animals or do any of the other stuff Martin mentions.... yet they proclaim that law as the foundation of their faith. I would love to learn how that works? Im not knocking Judaism in any way... I really dont understand how that works.
Doug meredith (Dougm)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:37 pm:   

I have never had an interest in a tatoo and never will. However, I have friends that are interested and some have them. My argument against them is always the same. Just picture your 80 year old grandmother or grandfather with barbed wire around her bicep or a large tribal symbol on her lower back or calf. Would seem strange to me.
Joe V. (Jts)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:33 pm:   

Ditto - thanks Martin, I needed that!

P.S.


quote:

Why can't I own Canadians?




We're belligerent, don't follow orders too well and are totally useless during hockey season. :-)
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:27 pm:   

Jamil,
religion is nothing to be laughing about! :-)
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   

Martin that was one of the funniest things I've read in a long time.

Thanks
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   

Terry you mean the thoughfull laws that we all live by like:

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. 1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev. 15:19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27.
How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev. 24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with
people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Intermediate Member
Username: Benjet

Post Number: 1179
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:36 pm:   

I have temporary SF Shield tats (about 1.5" square)in case anyone wants them.
-Ben
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2832
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:13 pm:   

When I was in the Navy from 1974 to 1978 I saw a lot of people get tattoos. Thankfully I did nor succumb to such foolishness. Every on of them ended up regreting it.
Andy mathieson (Andy)
New member
Username: Andy

Post Number: 15
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:13 pm:   

A few years ago my wife was collecting our 6 year old son from school when he pointed at another woman who had a tattoo on her arm and said "look Mummy that lady got drunk". This is the same kid who aged three was taken to the hospital for stitches to his hand and told the receptionist that she was the fattest person in the world, so we thought it was just another of those embarrassing moments with your kids. A few weeks later we were telling the story to my sister and brother-in-law and all was revealed. My brother in law has a tattoo of a skull and crossed pistons on his shoulder. My son had asked him what it was and his reply was "oh I got drunk one night".
I suppose a prancing horse on your backside won't get attention in the school yard but you'll probably regret it one day all the same.

Still, if you put a ferrari tattoo there and sit on it maybe in 20 years you can just re-connolise the old leather to get it good as new.
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member
Username: Tspringer

Post Number: 728
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   

I dont have one, but my wife wants me to get one! Dont know if I will ever do it, seems like it would really hurt. I also dont know what I would get, but a prancing horse alone would work well as a Porsche and Ferrari fan. Perhaps a fancy looking cross?

We had an interesting arguement in my bible study recently about tattoos. Some folks attempted to argue that the bible forbids them pointing specifically to verses in Leviticus where the old testament jewish law is spelled out. Sure enough... the bible indeed does say not to have a tattoo. About 4 verses down from where it says not to cut your hair or trim your beard.... Needless to say everyone in the bible study gets regular haircuts. It was funny seeing some of the vehement anti-tattoo folks hemming and hawing about why they cut their hair!
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 741
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:25 pm:   

Mr green,
It won't be my first minority position.
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member
Username: Paulie_b

Post Number: 648
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:47 am:   

Martin...Jesus had a tatoo? What was it?
G. Green (Mr_green)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_green

Post Number: 78
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:27 am:   

Nikki Sixx happens to be a family man. I have seen him numerous times at the Thousand Oaks mall
with his wife and kids. I have talked with him a few times, he is extremly polite and very down to earth.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jim_schad

Post Number: 1730
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:21 am:   

I got some flames on my wrist last summer for $160. Regretted it right away. So far have spent another $850 and 8 sessions getting them removed. Feels like bacon grease on you for 30 minutes so think twice before you do it!
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jim_schad

Post Number: 1729
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:20 am:   

what do you think of Nikki Sixx's judgement?


Upload
G. Green (Mr_green)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_green

Post Number: 77
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:19 am:   

Lawrence,

With the amount of people getting tattoos nowadays soon you will be the minority.
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 739
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:00 am:   

Frank Parker's opinion is the same as mine. I wonder about a person's judgment when I see a tattoo.
G. Green (Mr_green)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_green

Post Number: 75
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:54 am:   

Great warriors since the begining of time have
sported tattoos.
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member
Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 5705
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:46 am:   

Jesus had a tattoo!
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2831
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:12 am:   

IMHO tattoos are for losers regardless of the image depicted thereon.
Paul Green (Diesirae)
New member
Username: Diesirae

Post Number: 46
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:43 am:   

Oh no, now we're going argue about whether or not its appropriate to tattoo S/F shields on your butt if you're not a racer... Upload

Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
Junior Member
Username: Sherpa23

Post Number: 90
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:36 am:   

Oh Nika! Did you really have to share that? Now i'm going to have that terrible image in my head every time I see a girl with a butterfly tatoo. Gross!
Racer Nika (Racernika)
New member
Username: Racernika

Post Number: 37
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:19 am:   

See vincent....if I would do that my "Prancing Horse" like hers....would be an "Old Nag" by the time I'm 40!

OUCH

Like a lady I worked with once - her "butterfly" tattoo on her chest is now a "condor" by her belly button so she says

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew


vincent decroix (Vince308)
New member
Username: Vince308

Post Number: 46
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:49 am:   

maybe you can take an example.
greetings, vince308Upload
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member
Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 998
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:54 am:   

LOL!
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member
Username: Artherd

Post Number: 726
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:41 am:   

Depends on where you put it!

Best!
Ben.
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member
Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 997
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:28 am:   

Nahh!

i just want to see it. where did you put it?

You're not whipped, but definitely a fan.

Vincent.
Thomas I (Wax)
Junior Member
Username: Wax

Post Number: 113
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:26 am:   

Yeah, we want to see a receipt, too.
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member
Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 994
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:15 am:   

Let's see it.
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Member
Username: Trinacria

Post Number: 392
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:13 am:   

Post a picture
PeterS (Peters)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peters

Post Number: 1325
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:35 pm:   

'Scudia Pisacane':-)
G. Green (Mr_green)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_green

Post Number: 73
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   

I guess you were too young for the dead.
John M.Pisacane (Chazferrari)
New member
Username: Chazferrari

Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:41 pm:   

Am I whipped or what?
~Chaz~

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