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John B (John_b)
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 5:47 am:   

I think Mr Green confused the aluminum with plastic
Norman (Storminnormin)
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Post Number: 230
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 8:41 pm:   

The "360 Modena" badge on the dash is a big chunk of plastic :-)
Michael W. (Whimike)
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 6:02 pm:   

Right, my titanium G4 is scratched to death and looks awful. The reason they paint it is because the titanium under the paint is a charcoal black and probalby not the color Apple wanted.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Post Number: 762
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   

The titanium in my powerbook G4 is still titanium, but it is painted. (not really sure why, honestly. Electrical insulation?) If abused, it will scratch, etc.

Still looks like a million bucks from 5 feet though!

Best!
Ben.
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Post Number: 999
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 1:49 pm:   

"I thought all the silver stuff (apart from the shifter) was plastic."

To quote the original C&D test: "Everyting in the interior that looks like aluminum IS aluminum."
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
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Post Number: 1283
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 1:30 pm:   

Guys, guys. Mr. Green ( otherwise "affectionatly" known as "the schizo" aka tony roberts, tony pantera, et. al.) sat in the Matel Hotwheels 360 modena. No wonder he noticed the plastic interior; his entire "car" is plastic.
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Post Number: 907
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   

The way I checked to see if my Range rover's metal was plastic was to simply touch it after the AC had been blasting for a while....

...the aluminum trim would all be very cold to the touch.
Dan 360 (Dan360)
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   

I thought all the silver stuff (apart from the shifter) was plastic. I'm going to go and tap mine again. The area of the drivers door in front of the speaker scuffs easily and this stuff doesn't heat up on a hot day like the metal shifter does. I think it looks great mind you, but I'm looking forward to the Carbon-Fibre on the 360CS.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Post Number: 2430
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 8:35 am:   

Also remember Mr Green is also Tony Roberts. His sole purpose in life is inane posts.

Can you drive a Ferrari in wing tip shoes?
ELI (Titanium360)
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 8:15 am:   

Where do you see plastic? can someone point it out please!
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
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Post Number: 921
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 7:41 am:   

Guys, guys, guys...remember to treat MR. GREEN with kid gloves. He gets his feelings hurt VEEEEEry easily and then he goes into a tirade about how we are all snobs. :-)
rob guess (Beast)
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 6:22 am:   

I think Mr Green would like to see billit titanium vents and Brushed aluminum air bag cover.
Michael W. (Whimike)
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 4:59 am:   

Let's play, "Find the plastic". Here is a picture of my 360 interior...

Upload
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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Post Number: 824
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 3:14 am:   

I had absolutely no idea there was plastic at all in there. Good eye.

I will sleep well tonight knowing that of all the possible things to discuss about Ferrari's, your fine attention wins the day.

Sunny
911 Fan (911fan)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 1:17 am:   

Michael,

To my eyes, Porsche interiors look best in black. Most of the other interior colors draw attention to the plastic bits, and they end up looking cheap and sometimes even hideous (light blue, for example).

My 996 has the full leather option (black, of course!) so, as you pointed out, there are very few plastic pieces in view. A very handsome interior, IMHO.

Jeremy P (Stolit_redux)
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Post Number: 5
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 1:11 am:   

I found the interior of the 360 to be very comfortable, roomy, and have no visible quality issues. The interior seemed to be aluminium and leather wrapped. To me, at least, the interior seemed downright luxurious.
Michael W. (Whimike)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:57 am:   

Bizarre, to say the least. When the 360 first came out I was very surprised by how "modern" the 360 interior was compared to all past models. Very ergonomic, simple and clean with curvy lines, to me it made all past models look vintage, busy, and complex. My 360 has very little plastic, anywhere. I also have a 996TT and that also has reasonably little plastic, assuming you get the options that cover most items in leather. Most 996TT owners that bought them when they were going well over retail bought bare-bones stripped models to maximize immediate resale profit, so many came without options and thus many parts were plastic.
911 Fan (911fan)
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:52 am:   

John,

Yes, I'm sure. I discovered a factory paint flaw on one trim piece which the dealer then resprayed under warranty.

Also, during an impressively thorough delivery "briefing", the salesman cautioned me that all 360 center consoles are painted so I needed to be careful not to scratch mine. So far so good...


G. Green (Mr_green)
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Post Number: 155
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:01 am:   

YES!
Norman (Storminnormin)
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:59 pm:   

Mr. Green, there are no Ferrari Nazi's on tonight. Please identify the plastic pieces that are excessive. I can only find the radio fascia, the air vents, the ventilation controls and steering column. Every other inch of space is covered either in leather or aluminum. Are you mistaking the aluminum for plastic?
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:37 pm:   

I'm sorry for having an opinion. I didn't know the Ferrari-Nazis were on line tonite.
john (Johnwto)
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

painted?? are you sure about that?
911 Fan (911fan)
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 9:23 pm:   

Many of the trim pieces are not "polished aluminum" - they may be aluminum but they're painted. You need to be careful with metal objects and passengers who fling open their seat belts!


Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Post Number: 761
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:59 pm:   

enh? While I like the 355's interior a little better than the 360 asthetically (but this is like asking "which of these georgeous intelligent whitty supermodels would you like to sleep with?") there is no denying that the 360's interior is a step up in quality and fit of materials.

Very little plastic in either car. Maybe in the buttons. And those work very well to boot.

I mean, sure, it's not quite in Koenigsegg or Zonda or TVR territory, but those interiors belong in modern art museums, not mere automobiles.

I love how Ferrari finally went to completely metal shifter balls and pedals, (and I love how those touches look in a 308 let's say) both are just pure SEX!

Best!
Ben.
Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:56 pm:   

Tony strikes again.
ty (360mode)
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:48 pm:   

or maybe a fieromodena...
Thomas I (Wax)
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:48 pm:   

This writer (Scott Oldham) was satisfied by the 2002 Modena:
http://www.nctd.com/review-walk.cfm?ReviewID=944

A snapshot of his review:
Once in, you're surrounded by the finest materials we've ever seen in an automobile. The leather, which covers everything, is top notch. The console, door panels and dash are polished aluminum. And the plastics used for the switches and air conditioning vents are heavy to the touch. Even the toggle switches that control things like the trunk latch and the defogger require a heavy hand to operate. Everything about this car says quality, nothing feels loose or flimsy.

What, pray tell, should it look like, Mr. Green?
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Post Number: 2429
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:46 pm:   

Maybe it was a Miata.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 1468
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:45 pm:   

Hmm... It's pretty much covered in leather and Aluminum. I've never heard anyone said the 360 has too much plastic in it before. Not sure what you're comparing it to. A Rolls or Bentley, perhaps?
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Post Number: 2427
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:43 pm:   

I'm not sure what kind of 360 you sat in, but the one's I've seen are covered in leather and brushed aluminum. Which of those textures do you think is plastic?
ty (360mode)
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:42 pm:   

i don't believe willis is taking offense, just wondering where the excessive plastic is located...
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:35 pm:   

Willis,

Don't be offended I really love the car. I just think the Interior looks a bit cheap.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 1467
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:27 pm:   

Whose 360 were you in that has too much plastic, G. Green? Please point out the offending pieces.
Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 8:02 pm:   

BTW, as long as the steering wheel, shift knob and pedals are leather, titanium and aluminum respectively, I don't care what else is plastic!
Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:58 pm:   

MB has been ravaged by MBA's cutting costs and cheapening their cars. The incorporation of Chrysler development and assembly hasn't helped things.

Nothing beats the heavyweight uber-luxury they had in the early 90's S-class.
john (Johnwto)
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:40 pm:   

bill the interior of the 02 cl was better than the 03.............too bad really, mb is lowering the quality of their interiors.
Bill Gomez (Bgomez)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:33 pm:   

John,
I agree with you. Not much plastic in my 360 either but I just figured the CL would have even more leather and whatever might be plastic in the 360 would probably be wood in the CL. Great cars!
Bill
john (Johnwto)
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:16 pm:   

where is there too much plastic in a 360???? i have aluminum and leather covering just about every surface. bill my 03 cl55 has more plastic than my 360
Bill Gomez (Bgomez)
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 5:57 pm:   

My 360 coupe has loads more leather and much less plastic than my 996TT. That's not what the car is about; for that I would get a CL55.
Bill
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Post Number: 1600
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 4:46 pm:   

i can't really get all that worked up about the interior of a sports car. i adore the interior of my 550, but if it had "more plastic" i wouldn't really think less of it. my 996TT had a TON of plastic. it was a patently chintzy interior, but that never really bothered me about it. i want my luxobarge sedans to have superb interiors, but when i'm in the f-cars it's all about acceleration, braking, and cornering!

but to each their own, for sure!

doody.
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 4:31 pm:   

I love the outside look of the car. The inside has to much plastic for me.

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