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Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:44 pm:   

Yeah Bill, it seems like I heard that Ferrari went to Schneider just before he opened and basically said to him "We found someone with deeper pockets than yours and btw you're a schmuk. Have a nice day" and took the franchise from him. But that was the last I ever heard of it. Did Mr. Schneider have a "reputation" in the Ferrari world? Reason I ask is my brother went down to Texas and had some contact with one of the dealers down there (Houston I think) and when the name "Schneider" came up, they groaned almost like he was somewhat notorious. Please correct me if I'm wrong......
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:06 am:   

Yeah, Chris, it's starting to come back now. A lot of that sounds familiar. I had forgotten about Ann Arbor. I'll have to check around and see.
Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:29 am:   

As I remember, it seemed Mr Schneider bounced around a lot in Michigan. I remember the store in Dearborn, then that closed and a new dealership was opened in Troy (Ferrari of Michigan) then that one closed, and he was all set to open again in Ann Arbor (Ferrari of Detroit). He even had a showroom and service bay all setup with a couple of cars in the showroom. Through the rumor mill I heard that Ferrari yanked his franchise at the 11th hour before he opened and awarded it to Cauley. Cauley also hired away Mr. Schneiders chief tech. Anyone else hear any stories/rumors/lies about that whole saga, or why he kept going out of business?
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 6:51 am:   

Right Paul! Schneider. My mistake. I didn't realize he had been closed very long, though.
PeterS (Peters)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:45 am:   

Chris...I'll help you put some much needed miles on your F-40. Can you please ship it to me in Sonora,CA? :-)
Tony Nevotti (Tnevotti)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:40 am:   

Just to clarify a few things:

Ferrari of Houston & Ferrari of Dallas are owned by Giuseppe Risi. Giuseppe Risi is not the importer for Spain.

Ferrari of Orange County is not Factory Owned.

Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:09 am:   

Bill and Chris,

His name was Bob Schneider and he was out of business for quite a while before Cauley got the franchise.

Paul
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 6:50 pm:   

Bill, you are correct, alot more time on the boat!!

I find that I am spending more of my time on my boat and less time in a Ferrari.

I ashamed to say the F40 did not move for 5 weeks... it is interesting though, the 355 is still the most fun to drive!
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 5:46 pm:   

Could be, Chris, but I doubt it. I heard that Jeff Cauley got to know a few Ferrari Dealers while racing Corvettes at Daytona and that they hooked him up with Ferrari. His family's Chevy dealership is very well established. In any event, he was on the right side of the political pendulum and you weren't. Maybe you were lucky. If things had gone yor way you'd be spending more time at the dealership and less time on your boat.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   

Bill, you may be correct, but I belive I saw where Ferrari announced Cauley as a new sales point.

Is it possible Snodgrass was out of busines for a period prior to Cauley?

I was involved with a group trying to get a Ferrari franchise here in KC at about the time Cauley became a dealer. At the time we were told no new dealerships and then Cauley showed up.

We had deep pockets, but we did not have Butoni's blessing...
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 3:39 pm:   

I agree with your premise, Chris, but I believe Cauley was not an addition; they took over the franchise from the dealer in Troy, MI. I believe the owner's name was Bob Snodgrass. He formerly owned the Sports Car Exchange in Dearborn, which also sold Ferraris.
Rosso (Redhead)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:47 am:   

Ferrari of San Diego and Orange County are owned by Bill Story Jr.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:40 am:   

St Louis had a Ferrari dealership for years, so did Kansas City.

Both went away in the early 90's when Ferrari cut back the number of dealers.

Oklahoma City had a Ferrari dealership, BIG RED, at this time, it also got the ax...
Steve B (Sjb509)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

The Maserati dealership in St. Louis is also a Bentley dealership. Since their inception a few years ago they were exclusively Bentley, but have now added Maserati. I guess Maserati is their "cheap" car. Heading OT now, but I just don't understand how a city like St. Louis could support a Bentley dealership, but not a Ferrari dealership. How many Bentleys were sold in the US last year anyway...12?
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:26 am:   

Piero, and others were principals in Ferrari of Orange County when it opened, I do not know who the owners are now.

With the addition of Ferrari of San Diego and with the changes at Ferrari of Beverly Hills I am not sure who the principals are in these dealership are at this time.

Terry (Dogue)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:21 am:   

I had heard that Ferrari of Beverly Hills was a Factory owned store as well as Ferrari of San Francisco. This could have changed over the years, but I believe it was true a few years ago.

Also I heard that United Auto Group was opening no less than 7 Maserati Dealerships in the next few years as well as a new Ferrari Dealership on the East Coast.

If Piero Ferrari is the owner of Orange County, does that mean that he also owns the San Diego Dealer? Ferrari of San Diego shares the same website as Orange County.

I visited the San Diego Dealer last weekend and it was terrible, The people were rude and unwilling to offer help. I know I was not there to buy a car, but they did not even offer assistance or acknowledge my existance, infact one employee was sweeping the floor, coming towards us without even yielding. Another invisible day in my life:-)
dave handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:14 am:   

DJ,
As Chris Parr mentioned, it is widely known that Maserati intends to open many more independant dealers in smaller markets that may not be able to support a Ferrari dealership. The Maserati is/will be their "volume" product, and they have every intention to sell a lot of them...Whether they are successful or not, is another question.
DJ (Godfather)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:32 am:   

Ferrari is committing sin with Maserati. How do they expect people to purchase these cars without a dealer network? They can't compete against Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, etc.

I can't take the time to travel to my nearest Ferari dealer to get a Maserati serviced. Its hard enough with the Ferrari as it is.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:15 am:   

Ferrari is repeating its past sin's.

In the early 90's Ferrari significantly cut the number of dealerships, this gave the remaining dealerships enough allocation to make a Ferrari dealership a viable business.

With the addition of Cauley Ferrari, Ferrari of Central Florida, Ferrari of Las Vegas and the new dealership in California, Ferrari is once again cutting the pie into smaller pieces.

Ferrari is not making more cars, they are just adding dealerships.

I suspect Maserati is the motivation for more dealerships, the first independent Maserati dealership just opened in St Louis.

I think we will see more stand alone Maserati dealerships in the future, but adding Ferarri dealerships without adding production is bad business.

Here in Kansas City, our nearest dealers are over 600 miles away.

Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:57 am:   

YES..YES YOUR CORRECT...OWNERSHIP TO STEVE WYNNE

BRUCE
Rosso (Redhead)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:55 am:   

Art and Chris....

In october of 2002, The owner of FLG approached FNA in regards to terminating the dealership agreement.
FNA had an issue since the PAST owner put this dealership in to bankruptcy. Anyone had the chance to buy the dealership out of the bankruptcy court, and FNA did bid on it, but being FNA, and being cheap, they did not out bid the eventual owners. This led to 6 years of court battles, and FNA cutting allocation to FLG. FLG then decided to sell it back to FNA being the currents state of the economy AND te fact that most of our service work was related to non warranty cars as it was.

This is straight from the horses mouth per se'.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

Isn't there talk of a dealership opening in Las Vegas as well now?

--Dan
James Lee (Aventino)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:50 am:   

Call me stupid but I always thought, out of all the dealerships out there, that Ferrari would be the one of the better ones to have in terms of a product that sells itself with a relatively stable market.

As an aside, Italian Motors in Hong Kong are opening one in Shanghai and the response has been amazing.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:12 am:   

Art, you are very correct!

All of these issues have very long stories behind them, my point is a simple question can have a very complex answer.

It has been awhile since we have talked, I hope all is well with you!

Chris
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 9:04 am:   

Chris:

The issue of Ferrari of Los Gatos is more complex than that. If you imput the name into Google, you'll get links to various articles which lay out the specifics of the claims of both Ferrari of Los Gatos and Ferrari North America. There are claims of fraud, transfer of ownership without permission, bankruptcy, etc. Where the truth is, who knows, but apparently the California New Dealer Board decided that Ferrari of North America could terminate the dealership.

Art
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 8:45 am:   

Ferrari of San Francisco is factory owned.

Ferrari of Orange County is owned in part by Piero Ferrari, so it enjoys "Factory Status".

Ferrari of Dallas and Ferrari of Houston are owned by Geisepi Risi, who controls the import rights to Ferrari in Spain.

Mr. Green's question is interesting because it raises the question does Ferrari play favorites with its dealers?, and the answer is yes.

This certainly impacts the ability of a dealer to get the allocation it needs to survive.

You may not be aware that dealers can not sell new cars to individuals outside there trade area, ask Shelton what the impact of Ferrari of Central Florida has had on there business.

Ferrari of Central Florida was a "favor" granted to a friend of Butoni's before he was removed as President of FNA.

Ferrari of Los Gatos also lost the war against FNA as has Brian Jessel.

While the percentage of factory dealerships in the US is low, the impact of the politics of FNA has a direct impact on all of us.
Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 3:51 am:   

No worries Mark !! Glad you said it !

There are about 50 non-franchise repairers/suppliers/restorers in the UK.

We have 15 Authorised dealers whom act under our auspices.

Not forgetting that we supply parts ourselves too !
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 3:19 am:   

Jeff
Yeah, I suppose, I couldn't seem to find any real info on the Ferrari dealer network outside North America so it was easier to just declare the rest of the world irrelevant. Typical American eh...UploadUploadUploadUpload

I would be interested what you might be able to tell us about Ferrari dealers in the UK and elsewhere.
Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 2:32 am:   

I think we have a few US customers that would disagree ! :-)Upload


quote:

I am also ignoring Ferrari dealerships outside of North America as they are not particularly relevent to US buyers in my opinion.


Vincent (Vincent348)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 2:19 am:   

all bullshit aside...FoSF is the only factory owned dealership. With that in mind you think they would represent, a little better.

Vincent.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   

Like Chris and a few others, I am curious as to the history of Ferrari owned dealerships. From what I understand, FoSF is the only fully factory owned dealership, but Ferrari has some stake in all dealerships (variable?). Can anyone shed some more light on this?

--Dan
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:48 pm:   

David

I kinda answered the question in my first post, it's right below the picture of Dave packing a Streetsweeper.

I know all this may seem counterintuitive but amazingly enough you can find dealer information by going to the Ferrari North America web site. If you then browse through the various dealer profiles you will see that only Ferrari of San Francisco is owned and managed by the Ferrari Factory. By my count there are a total of 32 Ferrari dealerships in North America. 29 in the United States and 3 in Canada. These numbers are of course subject to change. For instance, while the FNA web site still lists Brian Jessel Ferrari regular Fchat readers may recall that they have lost their franchise which would of course change the percentage. I am also ignoring Ferrari dealerships outside of North America as they are not particularly relevent to US buyers in my opinion. So the answer to Mr Green's original question is 3.125% of Ferrari Dealers in North America are owned by the Factory.
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   

mwg,

It's the other way around!
mwg (Mikeg)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   

Mr_Green, no need to pull a tiger by the tail. I would recommend laying off Bruce - he has 2700 posts and likely would enjoy firing off a couple hundred more to you in a battle that goes nowhere. I would politely encourage you to do as DES suggests and elevate your stature here by taking the time to give a little more background on your questions and ignore Bruce. You also may want to put a little more background info in your profile or explain a bit more about yourself in a message. I think people here view you with a heavy dose of skepticism. Providing background info on you and your questions may help people overcome that. Then again you may just be a "button pusher" - in which case I wasted my time. Its up to you.
David R. (Rodsky)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   

So after all that BS, no one answered the question. If this was a valid question why didn't anyone answer it. Perhaps Bruce was a little tough on Tony but there's a lot of history there. Tony tweaks everyone's tail and gets everyone riled up - then when he cant handle it anymore says Ferrari owners are snobs. Go and read his posts. Or better yet he asks Pontiac questions in GFD.

OK - I'll ask the question again what percentage are factory owned?
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

mwg,

People who do not know how to communicate feel they need to shout to be heard.
Ron (Easy_rider)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   

MikeG, welcome to the board.
mwg (Mikeg)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   

Mark - thanks for the link. I might have guessed that others have pointed out the inappropriateness of the SHOUTING to Bruce.

I have been lurking for a few weeks now to gain an understanding of the personalities and tempo of this board prior to posting. I must say for the most part this seems like an excellent board. I guess I will get used to the SHOUTING - but it is just so out of place in the on-line world. Certainly he does not SHOUT in everyday life or correspond in his professional e-mails this way. Then again who knows.

Seems like Bruce was a bit hard on Mr_Green. My guess would be that Mr_Green is a young enthusiast. One would think that the sensible thing to do would be for Bruce to ignore certain posts(as he encourages others to do e.g here http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/304963.html?1061857200) vs. respond with vulgarity. I gave my 10 year old niece the ferrari chat link to check out some nice member car photos - I certainly would not want her seeing responses like Bruce's response to Mr_Green. Not the caliber of post one would expect from a Ferrari chat board member.

BTW Mark your imagework is awesome! Just awesome!
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   

MWG
You are hardly the first. Skip past the Bruno leaving thing and this is one of many threads that gets into the all caps thing.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 9:33 pm:   

Rob, I must admit, I don't understand what is going on, used to be a nice neighborhood...

rob guess (Beast)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 9:26 pm:   

Chris;

Perhaps this behavior is result of the alignment of mars to the earth tommorow morning. Who knows???

Rob
mwg (Mikeg)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 9:23 pm:   

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S ANNOYING ... ALL CAPS IN A MESSAGE.... WHY SHOUT ALL THE TIME????

(AND WHY THE EXTRA PERIODS AND QUESTION MARKS ....??????)

I KNOW I AM NEW ON THIS BOARD... BUT HAS ANYONE TOLD HIM THAT THIS IS ANNOYING?????????
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 7:54 pm:   

Patrick, I invented the red dot!

It is just this is not the proper forum for that type of language.

Everybody is equal here, 2,700+ posts or 2, 308 or 360, F40 or P4.

Hey, it is just my opinion, I am just surprised that people I respect are acting so immature.
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 7:48 pm:   

Chris, I already know all the red dots:-)
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 7:42 pm:   

Bruce,

Did I miss something? Do we all have to get your permission before we post a thread?

You know I come here to have fun and learn, do you know how many dealerships in the world are factory owned? I don't.

If I find a post I am not interested in, I ignore it.

Bruce, if you had come back and said "these 3 dealership are factory owned in the US and they account for 1/3 of all Ferrari sales in the US", I would have found that interesting...

I have certainly seen sillier questions asked.

Your need to use profanity to show how intelligent you are is not working.

Bruce, you of all people are above this.

I know this man bothers you, but you are a better person than you are showing on this post.

Gentlemen young kids cruise this sight, is this the kind of language and examples we want to project?
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 6:02 pm:   

Dave,

People that buy Porsches are boring, real men drive Italian!
Mario B (Lawwdog)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   

Gotcha Bruce....I'm watchin the fun.

dave handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:48 pm:   

Well, my point is lost, but I believe that Mr. Green is just young, perhaps in high school or something. He is neither dumb, nor stupid, he is just an inquisitive youngster...nothing wrong with that, once the truth be known....now if this is an adult we are talking about, then maybe he IS just an annoyance... :-)

BTW, Mr. Green, thank you for the comments, but the car does not make me smart...in fact, I am a dolt with a "beautiful 328..." Smarts has nothing to do with purchasing a 328, only idiots who think with their heart would ever buy a Ferrari, P-cars (!), now THAT is a thinking mans car.
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:45 pm:   

David,

He's pissed off at the world, I'm sure you know the type.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:43 pm:   

Bruce, can I drive your 328? I know how!
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:42 pm:   

Gary/Tony, what's the speed of light in a vacuum? Maybe you could measure it by shining a flashlight in your ear and timing how long it takes for it to go out the other side.

Bruce, send him a flashlight. :-)
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

Dave,

You're brighter than me, you have a beautiful 328.
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:40 pm:   

HEY DAVID

READ ALL HIS POSTS, AFTER A WHILE YOU WILL GET THE PICTURE.....
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:38 pm:   

Geez Bruce,

What's up with the attitude?
I don't know Mr. Green from Adam...and I thought it was an interesting question?

BTW, I went to your web site...and it said I needed some Vasoline..Got any?

Regards to all,

David
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:37 pm:   

MARIO

WASNT INTENDED FOR YOU, BUDDY :-)

YOU HAVE USELESS QUESTIONS MR GREEN, THEREFORE THEY ARE NON-DESERVING OF ANSWERS,,,,,,,,,,
dave handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:36 pm:   

I am curious Mr. Green....how old are you? Me? I am 41 years old, single, not particularly bright... :-)
Mario B (Lawwdog)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:35 pm:   

Bruce,

I can't find www.fingermy.com :-)

Hey Mr. Green...nice way to start off a thread!

Mario
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:34 pm:   

Bruce,

Just because you don't have the answer to my question doesn't give you the right to be rude to me.
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:33 pm:   

Where is Dave and his pics when we need him?

Upload

IIRC F of San Francisco is the only one.
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:28 pm:   

THANKS JACK.....

NEED BATTERIES????
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   

Nice website btw, Bruce...

;-)

Jack
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:23 pm:   

NO JACK

JUST MR GREEN POSTS USELESS STUFF AND IS ANNOYING........
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:21 pm:   

Am I missing out on something good?
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:16 pm:   

Your a ....... go to www.tumadre.com
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:12 pm:   

YOUR AN ........GO TO WWW.FINGERMY.COM
G. Green (Mr_green)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 5:08 pm:   

What percentage are factory owned?

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