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William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2918 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 7:41 am: | |
K&N makes air filters for the Jeep Cherokee & they also happen to fit the 512TR Seems Lambo also uses some FIAT parts cus the door handles on my countach are right off the X/1 9 as well |
Peter Cyr (Pete04222)
Junior Member Username: Pete04222
Post Number: 74 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 4:24 am: | |
I am finishing up my ignition conversion, I've got the front distributor out and I find that the air pump check valve is rotted out and just hanging there in space. I guess I have found that exhaust leak I thought was too expensive to bother looking for. Oh great, this is a show stopper since you can only get to this part with the distributor out. I'm figuring a call to Dennis McCann is in order with FedEx shipping. My wife says "So I guess you'll be running down to CarQuest." I say "Ya right, like they are going to have one of these laying around for a '79 Ferrari." She says "What, they only made these for Ferrari's?" So I get thinking, "Wait a minute." and I go to my other garage and start digging through "The pile of stuff I will never use but is too good to throw away" and I find the old exhaust manifold left over from my Jeep when I put the Borla exhaust on it and sure enough, there is an air pump check valve on it. Guess what - It fits!! I looked up the part on McCann's website and he is getting $42 for it. I couldn't believe that a Jeep part fit the Ferrari. I was very pleased. Some things do go my way.
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Sam Germana (Sjmst)
New member Username: Sjmst
Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:37 pm: | |
My 2 cents: The gas cap on my 82 Mondial needed replacing. The one for my 81 Fiat Spider is exactly the same. |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 537 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:44 am: | |
When I was working at Pete Lovely Racing, I found that quite a number of old Fiat and Lancia parts, particularly electrical items, were exactly interchangable with Ferraris from the 50's and 60's. I can recall using headlight relays, horn relays, dash switches, wiper arms, horns, warning lights, mirrors, interior door pulls, tail lights, dome lights, jacks, brake fluid tanks, hose clamps, etc. that were certainly not unique to Ferrari. It makes sense. Why would Ferrari commission production of parts for the limited number of cars they were manufacturing, when perfectly good items were already available? |
Frank Wiedmann (Frankieferrari)
Junior Member Username: Frankieferrari
Post Number: 76 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:17 am: | |
O.K.,Thanks,guys for the replies.I appreciate it! Because,I am aware that alot of parts manufacturers make parts for alot of different auto manufacturers. Same part,but,each auto manufacturer has THEIR OWN "part # " for it.(and price,too!) It would be a great idea if somone had the time and knowledge to assemble a book,or something like that, that would help people find "crossover" parts. (unless there is one,already-please let me know, andrewg!) And,to art3555,no,if you read my post again,I did say that I wasn't looking to compromise safety or value by "skimping". But,in the 1980's, I drove a truck for a while,and picked up alot of parts for the J.I.Case co.,in Wisconsin,that made tractors and farm implements. I would pick-up assorted parts at various manufacturers,and saw that some of these manufacturers made the SAME parts,or,TYPE of parts,for other motorized equipment ,and auto manufacturers,too. (for instance,FelPro gaskets. They make gaskets for just about everything. And, say,IF,for an example, they made gaskets for both Ferraris AND Fiats. You're buying the SAME QUALITY gasket,that fits both a Ferrari AND a Fiat, If I found the Fiat part # that was the exact SAME as a Ferrari part,(but had a Ferrari part #). I could order the Fiat part#,and,PROPERLY use it on my Ferrari,but,pay the Fiat price for same. As opposed to paying more,SIMPLY due to ,the same part,being labeled as a "Ferrari" part!)Thats all (and using that FelPro reference was purely an example.) But,I picked up parts at a place that made "control" Knobs that were connected to cables,that hooked up to something. And another place that made wiring harnesses. And another place that made knobs. Another place that imported fasteners,and so on. These parts are all the same,same manufacturer,but,when they get shipped to their respective buyers,the buyers then put their own part number on it,and,their own price,too. |
Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
Junior Member Username: Srandrsn
Post Number: 173 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:41 am: | |
I recently picked up a thermostat for my 80 308. It's was a X/1-9 thermo and was $5 from local parts place... Ferrari themo was $45-$65. Installed it and there's been no difference in operating temps. Check it out |
Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
Member Username: Ferrariguy
Post Number: 298 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:12 am: | |
When I had my 1980 308 I had to replace the rear marker light cover. I found out it was a FIAT part and it only cost $25 CDN |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 335 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:06 am: | |
the exterior door handles on400/412/mondial's 8,qv and 3.2 are the same as the alfa spider, whilst a large amount of the trim bits that fit a 308 gt4 also fit on a x1/9, not to mention spark plugs brake pads etc (BMW 6, Porsche 911 3.2), whenever I've had to buy service or "hidden" bits for my 400 I've always gone to my auto parts store and looked through the parts cross over books, great fun and a nice saving, the best example was the rear brake pads which are the same as a Porsche 944's fronts, whilst Ferrari UK was the cheapeast place for OEM's in the little yellow box, the Porsche pads were almost 30% cheaper, wouldnt mind too much but they were all made in the same factory (maybe Ferrari ship them from Caernarfon to Italy then back again in the yellow box's?) |
Bert Kanters (Bert308)
Junior Member Username: Bert308
Post Number: 101 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
The handle for opening the hood/trunk on a 308 is the same on my Lancia Montecarlo, though no horse with the Monte. The shims for valve adjustment are Fiat items. I found out when I asked a friend, who's dad used to be a Zastava (Yugo) dealer, if he had shims like the one I showed him. Turned out the Zastava shims were the same. Zastava=Fiat based. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 2509 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:44 am: | |
I'm sure there's a bit of price inflation, but there is also on some parts, slight improvements and modifications that make these exchanges risky. I'd be very careful about doing this. Art |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2878 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:39 am: | |
I have used a lot of Fiat parts on my Ferraris over the years. I recall on my 328 I needed the ac/heater bar graph monitor that goes on the console. Ferrari wanted over $600 for the part. I bought one that goes on a Lancia that was exactly the same for about $100. After all, Ferraria ARE Fiats . |
Frank Wiedmann (Frankieferrari)
Junior Member Username: Frankieferrari
Post Number: 73 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:29 am: | |
About 20 or so years ago,I was talking to a European guy about Ferrari's. He did not own one at that time,but said that he had friends back in Europe that did. When we were discussing the high maintainance costs,parts,etc...he told me that some Fiat parts were interchangable,or,able to be used on a Ferrari. (which,20 years ago,would have only included ,what,308's,512BBi's,400i's,and ?) He was mostly referring to front end parts,wheel bearings,little parts...stuff like that. But,said that if you can find the Fiat alternative part,that would work for your Ferrari,you ordered a "Fiat" part,and it would be alot le$$ expensive,as oppo$$ed to saying," I need a --- for my '81 Ferrari...." And, a$ $oon a$ you $aid,"Ferrari",the co$t of the part went up! So,I was wondering,if any of that was,infact,true,as I now (past 3 years)DO own a Ferrari. Question: Are there,indeed,actually any Fiat parts (same vendors as Ferrari)that will work for a Ferrari? Someone might think its a dumb question,but,if Fiat and Ferrari had the same vendor(manufacturer) making,say,brake parts,or,steering parts,or whatever,there isn't a quality issue(as in trying to "skimp" on parts) as,they were made by the same manufacturer,except that the parts made that were earmarked for Ferrari,were then charged a much higher price,SIMPLY because they were FOR a Ferrari.Anyone know? (I believe that,back then,Fiat had a "Spider-124 or 850-? And the "X 1/9".) |
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