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stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
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Username: Ethans_dad

Post Number: 365
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:53 pm:   

Also related, I was informed that over 90% of redirected "online auction escrow services" are scams. Most only handle Western Union cash tranfers. Simple online purchase rule... if they don't accept Paypal or credit cards, walk away. It's not worth the gamble.

Steve
Niels Schouten (250lm)
New member
Username: 250lm

Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:25 pm:   

I get these stuff all the time. Just do not react. I never did, and I can still use Ebay. Funny thing is that I get them on an email account I do not use for Ebay anymore for the last year, so there adressbook is not up-to-date!!


Niels

Sam Germana (Sjmst)
Junior Member
Username: Sjmst

Post Number: 59
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

I've gotten these as well. Ebay told me it was called "spoofing." Makes it sound like innocent fun, but it is of course fraud.
James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member
Username: Madmaxx

Post Number: 174
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 2:27 pm:   

Companies will never contact you via email if there is a problem with your account. You will NEVER be asked to verify card info, pins, and especially NOT SS numbers.

Look at the headers of the email, easy way to tell that they did not come from the source. Also check the host/IP of the "link" they give. You will find that it is NOT "ebay.com", rather something like ebaycheck.com or other junk like that. They mask it sometimes in emails that are HTML encoded, so look at the source.


The fun thing to do with sites like this that try to rip people off are to find the post methods, then port flood the hell out of their SQL servers :-)

You can also setup your credit info that any change (such as new account or CC opened) must be authenticated by phone call to you, from the establishment looking to issue the account. That way you can quickly stop anyone from getting a SS and opening up accounts all over the place.

Scams like this have many forms. From the "You've won a prize! We just need you to setup an account with our bank to claim it....." phone calls to the new email scams.

When in doubt, check it out. ALWAYS verify info from callers/emailers before giving out ANY personal info.

James
Wyatt Hanson (Wyatth)
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Username: Wyatth

Post Number: 143
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

Thank you very much for the alert.
Doug meredith (Dougm)
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Username: Dougm

Post Number: 360
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 8:53 am:   

Got the same email a few months ago about once a week for a month. I didn't do it and figured that next time I bid or go to list an item, they will want the info.
I guess any important info such as banks, investments etc...should only be updated if they ask for the info after you go to their website on your own.
Thomas I (Wax)
Junior Member
Username: Wax

Post Number: 195
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 6:38 am:   

This type of scam is called "phishing" - here's how it relates to ebay in the news:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&edition=us&q=ebay+phishing&btnG=Search+News
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
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Username: Tork1966

Post Number: 935
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 5:44 am:   

Art, it was not that hard believe it or not. My c.c. co. reversed all charges and I just had to fill out a 1 pg. form affirming that I did not make said charges and I got a new card Fed Ex next day.
Frank Wiedmann (Frankieferrari)
Junior Member
Username: Frankieferrari

Post Number: 86
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 5:23 pm:   

Man,I don't EVER,I mean EVER give my credit card and social security numbers out over the phone,and especially not the internet! I have ordered things off the internet,but,opted to pay,"the old fashioned way"-got their mailing address and sent a check or money order (that can be cancelled if need be.) No problems,yet,but there are some pretty crafty criminals out there...
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 487
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 4:06 pm:   

Like Jerry W...I fell for it too, then saw this thread and flew to the phone and cancelled my credit card. This stuff makes me so mad! Luckily for me no charges had been racked up. These people need to be beaten repeatedly about the head and shoulders with a heavy blunt instrument.
arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member
Username: Art355

Post Number: 2525
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

Jerry:

How much trouble was it to fix every thing? This would make a great "off-topic" thread about what happens when you screw up, or have your identity stolen, and the consequences.

Sorry

Art
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member
Username: Tork1966

Post Number: 933
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 3:13 pm:   

I fell for it and gave them my c.c. info, mother's maiden name, address...everything. They immediately started charging items to my VISA from CA. Please keep your "dumb ass" comments to yourself...LOL!
Gary Reed (Gary_reed)
Junior Member
Username: Gary_reed

Post Number: 168
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 3:05 pm:   

The best thing to do if you get one of these fake emails, is to forward it, including the full header to: [email protected]
Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
Member
Username: Gagatep

Post Number: 359
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

i also received the email a few weeks ago.
i didn't contact ebay to verify.
i had that bad feeling but almost fell for the trap anyway.
its a good thing i followed my instincts and i didn't respond.
its just good practice not to disclose
such information when asked the way that e-mail did.
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member
Username: Coachi

Post Number: 354
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 2:49 pm:   

james, this scam has been going on for months, and I too contacted EBay and they told me to ignore it. It does look official and I almost fell for it. I did not give them any info whatsoever andnever will.
steve coleby (Ferraridriver)
Junior Member
Username: Ferraridriver

Post Number: 132
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 1:42 pm:   

James
Thanks for the warning

Steve
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh

Post Number: 216
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 1:31 pm:   

I know this should go to off topic but I feel it is important to alert everyone. I received an email today, supposedly from Ebay asking me to verify my information or my Ebay account would be terminated. When I click on to do this, it came up with a very official looking form with an ebay.com address. It asked for bank info, credit card info, passwords, PIN number, paypal info. I contacted Ebay immediately to ask why they need this information. They told me it was a scam and it was not from ebay. Ebay would never ask for passwords, social sercurity card number or PIN's. So everyone, please be careful
James

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