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David McGee (Damcgee)
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Username: Damcgee

Post Number: 94
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 7:43 pm:   

I doubt 2 years is past the British statute of limitations, but it would be tough to prove the case. Even if you proved the case, you would spend more in litigation than the 3500 lbs it costs to fix.
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member
Username: Countachxx

Post Number: 2969
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 4:14 pm:   

I think an on board fire extinguisher has saved me at least 6 x. Everybody should have 1 in every car
Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
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Username: Alexpapas

Post Number: 62
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   

This is clearly someone's fault. If you can determine who is at fault i.e. when did the offending part get replaced then a lawsuit against that entity is certainly in order.
I also don't see why comprehensive insurance won't cover this. This is a clearly an insurable event, as much as if you had collided with something and a fire ensued. This is a fire caused by someone's actions or lack thereoff, not simply spontaneous combustion. I'm certain this is an insurable event.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2886
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:24 pm:   

auto comprehensive coverage will pay for the damage caused by the fire but not for the defective part that caused the fire.
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355

Post Number: 2541
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

Sue them both, let them fight it out whose fault it was.

Art
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 5901
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 2:56 pm:   

does not cover mechanical fires as far as I know but I would give it a try as well.

P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member
Username: Ferrari_fanatic

Post Number: 591
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

What about your regular car insurance? Isn't that why we buy it?
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member
Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 5891
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 8:02 am:   

I don't know why he is so mad about this being a Ferrari. This could have happened to any car. If the mechanic screws up why is that the fault of the car maker?

Clearly a mechnaics fault.
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member
Username: T88power

Post Number: 1680
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 6:50 am:   

Here is the writeup from the link:

Any input gratefully received...

355 GTB bought 21/12/02 from Graypauls. 10k miles, 4yrs old. Lovely. Added an extra year of Power warranty onto the 1yr it had.

Few warranty niggles (aircon switch knackered etc) but nothing major to spoil the dream.

12th July (car now has 15k miles on it) coming home from Goodwood the engine dies, all warning lights come on, the horn goes off and the car fills with smoke. Eject passenger and self for fear of life, then call tow truck (don't ask how long that took). No full on fire, but plenty of smoke. Oh bugger.

Car returned to Graypaul the following Friday for analysis and hopeful warranty claim!

Analysis:

The engine wiring loom had burnt out. It looks like the grommet that should prevent this part of the loom becoming chafed is not in place (not sure whether this is entirely, or just not in place properly). The loom has chafed and shorted on the ignition circuit causing the burn out.

As I'm told that the loom passes over the fuel tank at this point I'm somewhat relieved that no one was hurt. Though as I now stand, I think I'd rather the thing had set alight. Read on.

Ferrari UK - not covered by warranty. It looks like this might have happened when the engine was out for its belts to be done in 2001, but it's not a warranty claim period.

FUK contact the approved dealer (the car has ONLY been in the approved network) who did the belts to see what they say. Stratstones (said dealer) aren't interested as they did the work 2 years ago.

FUK suggest I talk to Graypauls as suppliers of the car.

Graypauls understand my point, but the problem isn't theirs to deal with.

Result - I'm left with at least a 3.5k bill, though as a gesture of goodwill and because they'd like to retain my business, they are offering a "reduced" rate on the fix (so it could feasibly be less than 3.5k if I were to be optimistic).


To say I'm a little bit mad would be the understatement of the century. And so much for my comments on this forum about buying from the approved network for peace of mind!

I feel more than a million miles away from smiling every time I see a 355 right at this moment in time.

If anyone has any advice, I'll take it gladly. Am going to call my insurers but I can already here the "sorry, this ain't covered" before I even bother.

The way I am right now, can't see me keeping the car once it's fixed. I fully accepted that a Ferrari might not be reliable, but this sh*te takes the biscuit and simply makes me want to put my money elsewhere.
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1045
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 6:23 am:   

Link does not work.
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 654
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 6:09 am:   

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=52539&f=63&h=0

Interesting article. I feel for the guy who owns the F355...

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