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DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member
Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6100
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 3:50 pm:   

LOL, the skills here are ridiculous...! Hey, guys, i lost about $60 when i was 12 years old... Can i get some assistance...? :-)
Michael W. (Whimike)
Junior Member
Username: Whimike

Post Number: 52
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 3:26 pm:   

James,

Never was it said that e-bay has asked for your password in an e-mail. It has always been asked for on a webpage that is linked from an e-mail sent from what appears to be e-bay, but isn't.

We are well beyond the times of just asking for password info in an e-mail. These criminals are very advanced now with custom websites, fake escrow companies, and other elaborate setups.
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member
Username: Ralfabco

Post Number: 721
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:34 pm:   

If you think this is a scam, you should look into
(for fun) The Nigerian offshore oil account giveaway
they are e-mailing around the country.

A person I know played with this scam for a few
weeks for enjoyment. He obviously knew it was
a scam from the beginning. They shrewdly do not
ask for money up front. They send Fed Ex papers,
lawyers call and send faxes etc.... You will get a letter from The Netherlands with an actual
signature from a Doctor ? Then they ask for a small $5,000 deposit to draft papers. That is the scam. They mention how they cannot take the 5K out of the Pot of Gold you are going to obtain.
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh

Post Number: 220
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:22 pm:   

I meant ebay would never send you a letter, email, etc. asking for your password. The only time you enter your password is when you are bidding on something or you need to get into your pass records, but they are not asking for the password, the password gains you access to your account.
Greg G (Greg_g)
Junior Member
Username: Greg_g

Post Number: 53
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:09 pm:   

Its now Fri, 3:15pm EST - why hasnt Ebay pulled the ad yet???
Chris D (Prohydro)
Junior Member
Username: Prohydro

Post Number: 80
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   

Henry,

Yeah, the guy in Denver (or wherever he is) just copied the ad of the legitimate 348. Same pictures, same description. Then, he has the winning bidder send him a $500 deposit as soon as the auction ends, and the scammer just leaves with the money. So, no car actually exists in Denver. If he was smarter, he would have waited until the auction he copied was over...
Michael W. (Whimike)
Junior Member
Username: Whimike

Post Number: 51
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 8:55 pm:   

James,

E-bay asks for your password all the time, for example if you want to bid on an item you have to enter your user name and password. Just make sure it is a xxx.ebay.com URL before you enter it.
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk

Post Number: 1156
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 8:26 pm:   

Why are the serial numbers different? Does the guy in Denver have a real car, and just falsifying the pictures, and descriptions?
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh

Post Number: 219
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 8:20 pm:   

Ebay will never and I repeat NEVER EVER ask for your password. So regardless of the address, if they are asking for password, it is not from Ebay.
Roberto (Cuore_rosso)
New member
Username: Cuore_rosso

Post Number: 19
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 5:57 pm:   

EBay has still not pulled the auction! The real item did not sell, let's hope the fake has the same fate. I guess the seller of the fake will just lower the reserve to make someone part with $500.

Long delay in responding by EBay, does not breed confidence.
Michael W. (Whimike)
New member
Username: Whimike

Post Number: 49
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:29 am:   

Henryk:

The reason the high-bidder is running the scam auction is because somebody has hacked into that sellers e-bay account. What happens is that some people receive an e-mail from e-bay telling them their credit card info is no longer valid and they need to sign in and fix it. The problem is that the e-mail is not really from e-bay, but rather from some criminal group. They make the e-mail look exactly as if it came from e-bay. Then you click on the link in the e-mail and it takes you to what looks exactly like an e-bay sign in page. You put in your name and password and credit card info and it all goes to this criminal group and viola, they have all your info to hack into your account.

To make sure you don't get scammed, just make 100% sure the URL has "xxx.ebay.com" before you put in any password or credit card info on the web for e-bay.
Chris D (Prohydro)
Junior Member
Username: Prohydro

Post Number: 78
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   

Wow, you guys are quick. I was going to email ebay and the dealer, but it looks like it's been taken care of. Thanks!

~Chris
Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 2439
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   

Follow-up:

I've contacted Michael Rozenstraten in Costa Mesa and he is aware of the bogus listing. He has contacted eBay and is looking into legal options.
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk

Post Number: 1154
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 9:20 pm:   

While I agree this is a scam, how does it work? The seller is mayalhigh with 2386 transactions, and a 99.6% positive responce. The buyer is told to e-mail questions to WireDown1..... Wouldn't the winning bidder send money to mayalhigh? Is he in on it too? I don't understand.
Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 2413
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 7:19 pm:   

Notified eBay. The listing should be gone by tomorrow.
Jason W (Pristines4)
Member
Username: Pristines4

Post Number: 633
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 6:32 pm:   

Just emailed all the bidders in the Denver auction with a link to this thread.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jim_schad

Post Number: 1796
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 6:24 pm:   

can they not just track his stupid aol address then go bust his chops?
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400

Post Number: 1861
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 5:15 pm:   

Michael is right, the Costa Mesa one is the real one...I know the shop its at and its pictured on the link to the shop's website.
Michael W. (Whimike)
New member
Username: Whimike

Post Number: 48
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   

The seller in Costa Mesa is 99% the real on, the seller in Denver is 99% the fake one. It looks as if the Denver sellers e-bay account has been hacked into by some foreigner. The recent breaking into of accounts has been traced back to Romania and Russia, and some of the wording in the "Denver" auction is showing this.
Chris D (Prohydro)
Junior Member
Username: Prohydro

Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 3:42 pm:   

So, I was cruising Ebay checking out the latest prices on 348's. Found these two auctions...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2430839408&category=6212

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2430118005&category=6212

Different usernames...different VINs...same pictures used, virtually the same description word for word...even the offer of a $1000 discount for new tires.

Wonder which one is the real car? Any members of the FerrariChat Junior Investigator team up for some fun? I'm not interested in this car, but you could thrash another Ebay scammer.

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