| Author | Message | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2594 Registered: 10-2002 |
The sound stays with you... Best | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 334 Registered: 4-2003 |
James, Oh, okay. It was certainly a sight to see (and hear!). Can't wait to see your car when it is finished! -Augustine | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2591 Registered: 10-2002 |
No It was probably 412P 0844. | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 332 Registered: 4-2003 |
James, Thanks for the info. By the way, a few years ago while I was student down in Miami I saw a 330 P4 running around Homestead. I think that there was a 360 Challenge practice session and a lot of guys had other cars there. I remember this car vividly and I have some photos. Was it by any chance yours? -Augustine | ||
| Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 399 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>The 250 GTO is very, very beautiful.<< Jim, I, or course, agree with you. If I owned a car company (and it ticks me off that I don't), I would make my designers meditate for hours on end just by looking at pictures of a 250 GTO. Sometimes, the planets align just so and somebody can create a masterpiece without even realizing what they have done. For example, a 1970 Triumph Bonneville is, IMNSHO, the most beautiful production motorcycle ever made. Did the Brits understand what they had done? Nope, because they changed it the next year, <sigh>. But the price difference between a 250 GTO and a production 275 has always amazed me. Not that I'm complaining. They say never say never, but it is highly unlikely that I will ever own a 250 GTO in this lifetime. Now, a nice sharknose, that's a real possibility. thx | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2589 Registered: 10-2002 |
Tyson If that is correct and it may be he did indeed pay 10 million in 88. 88 was the top of the bubble. A 250GTO sold at about that time for 17+. Today IMHO this car would not bring 10 as 250GTO's are about at 9-10. But it is a very special car and I'm sure the owner bought it to keep for ever and really doesn't care. Someday it may very well sell for more than 10 but if it does IMHO 250 GTO's will be going for 20. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 148 Registered: 5-2003 |
I bought a 328gts in feb. '92 at shelton and I recall them showing me that one of a kind Ferrari and back then they said it was worth maybe 10 million, but those days are gone now. | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 389 Registered: 6-2003 |
http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/6885.275GTB.htm | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2588 Registered: 10-2002 |
Augustine This is indeed a very special car. It is a 275 GTB Comp. with nice history but it is not a 250 GTO. I believe it did sell for 6500 in the 70ies. I saw a 250 GTO and a trailer sell for 6300 in the 60ies. Today this car would probably go for more than 1.5 because of it's history but it is no where close to 10. I'd guess 3-4. Andrew this may be the "65 GTO" Sheehan sold but there are no 65 GTO's. Dale I think it comes down to several things. Race results, (A 250 GTO did come in 1 OA at Sebring) beauty, and rarity. The 250 GTO is very, very beautiful. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1324 Registered: 10-2001 |
And yes there are much more 275 than 250's per type .. 36 GTOs 280'ish SWB Fewer TDF's Around 700 275 GTB's ( long ,short , 2 and 4 cams ) | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1323 Registered: 10-2001 |
The 275 racing history cant be compared to the 250's be it TDF , GTO or SWB. | ||
| Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 394 Registered: 4-2003 |
Jim, just curious... Why aren't 275s multi-million dollar cars like the 250s? They were the last of the "drive-to-the-race-track" cars, but perhaps they were not as edgy as the 2050s? Or was the 275 motor not as successful on the track as the 250? Did Ferrari make too many, or is it just one of those things. Thanks in advance, Dale | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1322 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sheehan sold a 65 GTO a few years ago for a little less than 2m$ i think ? How about the 312 P ? Peter Sachs and Bardinon's car ? How much are they worth ? | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 327 Registered: 4-2003 |
Yep. | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 382 Registered: 6-2003 |
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| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 381 Registered: 6-2003 |
http://www.qv500.com/ferrari275p5.htm | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 326 Registered: 4-2003 |
That's not the one. I believe the one at Shelton has been nicknamed the "'65 GTO." | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 380 Registered: 6-2003 |
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| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 379 Registered: 6-2003 |
Very interested to see this car. Any pics? | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 324 Registered: 4-2003 |
I think he drove it to work every day too! | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 323 Registered: 4-2003 |
It may not be worth $10 million but I'm pretty sure it's worth more than $1.5 million. Again, I'm going on what I was told by the keepers of the car. Very interesting car none the less. Was apparently owned by a University of Miami professor at one point and sold during the seventies for around $6,500 if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2586 Registered: 10-2002 |
If it is a 275 GTB comp there are several of them and they go for 1.5 ish. 250LM's (sometimes miscalled 275 LM's) with huge history 3-4. The only F cars I know that have traded for 10 million + are several 250 GTO's and one 330P4. Anyone? | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 321 Registered: 4-2003 |
James, I know we've never chatted together before, and I know that you know your stuff, but I think Ed B. might be right. I know the car that he speaks of. It's #24. Was raced at Le Mans and is at Shelton. Bud Root, a sales rep there, showed the car to me on my visit. It's featured in Cavallino and several other publications and books. I'll see if I can find out more. It does start out with 275 too.  -Augustine | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2584 Registered: 10-2002 |
Ed FYI there are no F cars worth 10 million that begin with 275. The ones that are worth 10 million begin with 250 or 330. | ||
| Bart McMurry (Mcmurb)
New member Username: Mcmurb Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2002 |
the red enzo from FCF was released to the new owner last week. I saw him driving it north on I4. I was told the car will stay here and that the owner lives in New Symrna and works in Sanford so very likely you will see the car on road. BTW the car had been up at the dealership for about two weeks, one week on the floor and one in the back. | ||
| Ed Bolian (Mred)
New member Username: Mred Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2003 |
The swap shop is in fort lauderdale. I was there a few weeks ago and the owners collection was on display in the lower level. I got directions from a salesman at Shelton Ferrari. The cars that were there were: Red Enzo Yellow F50 Red 550 Barchetta Yellow 360 Spyder Red 360 Modena Yellow Daytona Convertible that was a Sebring pace car White Testarossa from Magnum PI a yellow race car that the guy at Shelton told me was a 275 competizione (?) of some sort, that it was the only on in the world and that the value was cerca $10,000,000.00! It is definately worth the trip. He also has several porsche race cars including a 935 and one that won daytona. Fun stuff. ED | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1035 Registered: 5-2002 |
An Enzo in Orlando??? I need to get out more.. I hope it's not going to sit in someones garage.. I'm still waiting for the opportunity to see one.. I can't wait. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2003 |
There is a local Enzo car in orlando, but will we ever see it on the road? Its red of course. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1030 Registered: 5-2002 |
Martin- The show you are speaking of is the Winter Park show on Oct. 19th... I will be there. I was just hoping for an earlier show or gathering... | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5992 Registered: 5-2001 |
Ron, there is MOunt Dora coming up, or was it Winterpark? They send me e-mails every week about the show and I sent in my registration but they never reply. So screw them, I will make other plans. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1028 Registered: 5-2002 |
Greg. I'd love to help you work on your 308, But 4hrs. WOW! Thanks for the offer but time is a factor.. I really wish you lived closer..... Bart - I'd love to take you on your offer. Maybe we can get together for the next show.. L. Testaroja - Currently I don't have a Ferrari. Just Moved in my new home in Dec. Decorating and putting in a pool. Still tring to make the wife happy in order to "justify" the Ferrari. I may be looking for a carb 308 or something to that effect.. Still not sure.. I am a Big fan of the TR's but the repair cost scare me.. Time will tell.. You guys are all great for you offers.. | ||
| Dr Mike Jacobsen (Dr_whoopie)
New member Username: Dr_whoopie Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2003 |
I'm game for fast drives thru the hills n of tampa! I'm also in the porsche club and theres a nice backroads run to Mt Dora we've taken to the car show there. Drive it like you stole it! Dr Mike | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 144 Registered: 5-2003 |
I live in Orlando and drive a '88 testarossa my brother also lives here and he drives a 328gts. What do your have? | ||
| Bart McMurry (Mcmurb)
New member Username: Mcmurb Post Number: 38 Registered: 9-2002 |
Ron, there are quite a few f-cars here in town. don't know if they are chatters though. i have busy schedule like everyone else in the world but would certainly make time to get together if you want. i live up on the north side of town - let me know. | ||
| Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member Username: Sloan83qv Post Number: 640 Registered: 3-2001 |
Maybe you should post in the Florida section? Might get a better response. | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 840 Registered: 10-2001 |
Ron...Come on up to Tallahassee...a mere 4 hours...you can help me work on the 308. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1026 Registered: 5-2002 |
I take it that this was a bad idea ? ? ? ? Comments .. Anyone.. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1018 Registered: 5-2002 |
What's going on in Orlando.. I'm waiting for some local shows to see some F-cars and meet some of my Chat room brothers and there is none going on.. Maybe some of us should have a get together before the winter sets in.... What do you think? |