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nickm........ (Nickm)
Member
Username: Nickm
Post Number: 274
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 7:07 pm: | |
Add 26 in the "parts" section. |
nickm........ (Nickm)
Member
Username: Nickm
Post Number: 273
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 7:03 pm: | |
Hi James,
I have the 288 conversion parts for sale in the FerrariAds.com section of this site. Look up at the top of this page, to the right. It is the shorter version, fit & finish is great, fiberglass is straight as an arrow. |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 141
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
The last time I saw a 288GTO complete engine and trany was $150,000 U.S. dollars about 10 years ago. |
Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member
Username: Djparks
Post Number: 605
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 3:16 pm: | |
The lower rear longitudinal on my 308 are oval. Everything above is square box.
There is some oval in the lower front also but I seem to recall some heavy box reinforcing crosswise at the foot well and diagonally underneath. |
James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member
Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 189
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:53 pm: | |
Finding an original 288 transaxle may be difficult. Not to say that a G50 (big and heavy) is the best solution, but I have worked with them before. The audi trans are short and nice, but the power rating is ~400 max. Of course, the TT motor isn't making the gear shattering torque of a larger displacement, so it may be OK with some minor prep.
Wasn't the ZF trans the original one slated for production? but it sat to high IIRC (?).
There are much worse fates than becoming a well-built racestyle car. It could be converted into a diablo LOL
What combination of oval/boxed tube is the stock 308 frame?
James |
Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member
Username: Djparks
Post Number: 603
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:43 pm: | |
Thanks Willis, Could have sworn it was more than that. Maybe I am thinking of the difference between a GTS & GT4, (the back seats ya'know). |
Frank Wiedmann (Frankieferrari)
Junior Member
Username: Frankieferrari
Post Number: 180
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:33 pm: | |
James(madmax) check out this site: www.italianauto.com This guy sells 288GTO rebody's,kits,parts...whatever you need. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1530
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 1:12 pm: | |
The wheelbase difference between a 288GTO and a 308 is 4.3 inches. |
Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member
Username: Djparks
Post Number: 600
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:56 pm: | |
There is nothing morbid about taking a bone yard shell out of the weeds and bringing it back to life as long as an attempt is made to accurately and tastefully recreate the type you are copying.
Many would frown on the idea but better than being lost in a shack in Alabama for 40 years and ruined by mold and rust.
Barn finds may be cool but creating barn finds isn't what it's about.
Do a search on the archives. There was an extensive thread of a 308/288 hybrid mod done with extensive pictures. The wheel base wasn't extended, the engine is still transverse. The building practices may have left a bit to be desired but the car appeared to be fairly well proportioned when completed.
DJ. |
Paul Cox (Paulc)
Junior Member
Username: Paulc
Post Number: 53
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:51 pm: | |
The G50 does work but you have to mount it upside down. I have no first hand experience with this but contact David Moore at www.moorespeed.com |
Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member
Username: Djparks
Post Number: 599
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:47 pm: | |
I believe the wheel base is extended 11 inches from the rear wheel well to the aft edge of the door to accomodate the longitudinal position of the engine.
Personally I would lean towards a blueprinted and reratioed ZF transaxle (Pantera) to handle any excessive torque unless you can score a 288 transaxle in good shape for 10 to 15,000 USD. I don't know enough about current transaxles to offer an alternate suggestion.
I would look to the layout of the original for the answers to the rest of your questions.
DJ |
James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member
Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 188
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:32 pm: | |
Just out of morbid curiosity, what would all need to be changed in a 288-style conversion on a 308 platform? Not a true "replica" mind you, but a body/layout similar to that of the original car.
How far is the frame stretched? Are there panels already made for the correct wheelbase, or will current "kits" need to be modified as well? Would a Porsche G50 or the like (Audi perhaps?) transaxle make a good candidate for the longitudinal mount? Assume Haltech ECU and custom exhaust would be in order. Would the stock fuel tanks need to be relocated? Suspension change for the track and it's position along the frame?
As far as the interior goes, the bulkhead was moved forward in the center for engine clearance, correct? Barring the change in gauges/seats/etc. for accuracy, what else was changed in the passenger compartment?
James |