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Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
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Username: Arizonaguy

Post Number: 607
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 6:54 pm:   

Lets hope its underated like the 03 cobra!
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 2531
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 6:49 pm:   

A.
The weight will come down and the hp will be more than you think. This is not the end either...
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 6201
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 4:15 pm:   

Wow, didn't know the Ford GT was that heavy. That's impressive then to be that much quicker at the same weight. Give it a diet like the CS and it would be even faster.
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
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Username: Senna1994

Post Number: 126
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 4:09 pm:   

The Ford GT weighs roughly 3,200 lbs from what I have read. Remember a 360CS is 3.5 seconds quicker around Fiorano than a stock 360 Modena. I believe that the GT will be very quick but the next generation 360 will have its ticket. Nice to see FORD to well though.
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Post Number: 6199
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 3:43 pm:   

How much does a Ford GT weigh?
Greg (Teflon)
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Username: Teflon

Post Number: 69
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

What kind of tires was the GT running at Laguna? How much faster is a 360CS than a 360 at Laguna?

Ford has had problems getting the cobra engine to reliably produce 390hp, so it will be very interesting to see how it fares in the GT.

Greg A

neal (95spiderneal)
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Username: 95spiderneal

Post Number: 241
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   

agree completely. ferrari should concentrate on dramatic improvements to ownership experience and maintenance requirements. performance is fine and only needs continual model year upgrades. real edge f has is in styling which it must maintain at all costs. supercar competition is great for us
jake diamond (Rampante)
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Username: Rampante

Post Number: 136
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 2:52 pm:   

They'll either wise-up or they'll be following Pan Am, et. al., into oblivion. The older "tifosi" are eventually going to die off; it will be a new day as more younger(and demanding) consumers move into the market. I've said it before, no one ever thought Pan Am would go out of business (Polaroid/Xerox were once invincable, too--now look at them). Hopefully someone at Ferrari will realize this.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Username: Willis360

Post Number: 1539
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:08 am:   

I don't mind the retro styling as I always liked the GT40. 100 more HP and a supercharger really helps the GT. I wonder what sort of lap time a 360 would do with a supercharger installed? :-)

Cheaper service costs will favor the other marques. Ferrari/FNA better come up with a really good deal to keep customers who are fed up with outrageous parts pricing.

Tenney (Tenney)
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Username: Tenney

Post Number: 434
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:06 am:   

Heard same re: GT40. Sounds like it'll be a good one.

A PMUM update for you, Chris:

http://www.world-challenge.com/news/03press235.html
John Whelan (Fodee)
Junior Member
Username: Fodee

Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:01 am:   

Chris, NGK makes an F40 plug in platinum for about $5.00. Those Champion plugs are not worth $0.89. You can get them from almost any motorcycle dealer.
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bahiaau

Post Number: 1008
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:00 am:   

Good! Ferrari needs a little competition. I think it's great to see Ford mix it up with them too. I think VW is going to make things interesting as well.
Edward (Edward_96gts)
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Username: Edward_96gts

Post Number: 100
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:43 am:   

James sources are accurate. I was at Laguna Seca during the testing and was told the same thing.
Reliable sources are quoting "significantly" more than 500 HP if it passes reliability testing.
Yes indeed it is a new day!
Dan 360 (Dan360)
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Username: Dan360

Post Number: 118
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:38 am:   

I'm sure 100 hp helps in lap times! I still think its a pity that the style is so completely retro.

I think "if you haven't looked at ford lately" message is a recognition that most people have thought that Ford cars are crap for some time. My ford experience is hire-car land - The Explorer is a decent vehicle but the Taurus and Sable are amongst the most embarrasing modern vehicles produced. They may be cheap, but they're also awful. For nearly 2Bn invested Ford is betting a lot on the new F150. Reports are its as good as the Explorer, so things are looking up for Ford, now all they need to do is take on the Accord and Camry with a decent car...

The New GT as I understand it from those in the trade is mostly going to loyal ford fleet buyers - those that have a fleet of F150s etc. I think this is a good way to treat customers. Its probably a well timed Halo car.

I think it looks great, but I'd rather it had original styling.

Its not going to tempt me away from F-car land, now an original Shelby GT-350 thats a Ford I'd like to add to the garage :-)
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member
Username: T88power

Post Number: 1685
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:28 am:   

Yes, I'm sure taking this thing in to the local Ford dealer service department will be an excellent experience.

Ernesto.

PS. If it is 5 seconds faster, then it is truly amazing. 5 secs is a lifetime on the track.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Username: Cmparrf40

Post Number: 726
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:27 am:   

$400.00?

Damn, Frank I could buy an set of spark plugs for my F40 for that (not installed) what are these guys thinking! lol
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2921
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:25 am:   

I love the way the new Ford GT looks. But, they claim a 30k service on it will cost almost $400.00 . That's outrageous ! With that kind of high service cost will anyone be interested in buying one of the things....time will tell ?
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 2524
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 9:15 am:   

Reliable sources have told me the new Ford GT is 5 seconds a lap faster than a stock 360 at Luguna!!!!!! If this is correct it's a brand new day...

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