| Author | Message | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2003 |
Well I thought why try and buy a normal car. Buying this way is much more fun! Well the whole deal seems far too risky, even by my low standards! Too much to potentially go wrong. Malcolm- The engine + gearbox is apparently tested and guarateed. Not sure if that makes it any better... | ||
| Malcolm West (Ferrari_uk_tech)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_uk_tech Post Number: 132 Registered: 7-2003 |
Adnaan, Just bear in mind if you go for the car and do the "engine swap" for �3000.00 you may have additional costs for servicing the 3.2 engine and how do you know the gearbox is ok? Anyway good luck. MW | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1725 Registered: 11-2001 |
adnaan - this deal is getting more creative by the minute ;-) only you can make the call on whether this deal is worth it to you. now you'll have the right engine, but without matching numbers, which i guess is better than having the wrong engine without matching numbers :-) whatever you decide - good luck! doody. | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2003 |
Just to throw a spanner in the works. I just spoke to a guy who has a 3.2 QV engine and gearbox for sale. He is willing to do a part ex on the 2V engine + �3000 (although there may be a bit of room to negotiate. Obviously have to pay some money for fitting too. Plus I imagine there would be other parts that might need changing like exhaust possibly. What do you guys think? Worth it? | ||
| Lee Hamner (Tennlee)
Junior Member Username: Tennlee Post Number: 225 Registered: 2-2002 |
Adnaan, My advice is if you imagine you'll wake up in the mornings thinking, "Life is good. Can't believe its in my garage- hope its a pretty day, and I don't have to work!" ...then buy it! But if you imagine you'll lay awake at night wondering if you should have bought it... don't. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 748 Registered: 6-2002 |
Buy it. This is a car. Not a kidney transplant. If, in your emotional evaluation you have determined that you are getting a good deal (as a result of the compromises mentioned), then it feels good. Do it. At these price levels, you can't get seriously hurt. So what if you lose a few dollars after a few years? It's like I kick myself for not shorting bonds last month. How low could interest rates go? Bond prices had to be near the top. As my wife said, "...follow your gut...". It's a beautiful car. Enjoy it. Jim S. | ||
| SRA (Sranderson)
Junior Member Username: Sranderson Post Number: 79 Registered: 11-2002 |
"The plus side is price. Its dead cheap" Adnaan, There are a few things in the English language that don't go together. 1)Honest Politician 2)Cheap Taxes 3)Cheap Ferrari S. Anderson | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 372 Registered: 9-2002 |
Adnaan it was about 2-3months ago at blackbush, the Mondial8 at FDL in the autotrader cost �7k if that gives you any idea of the underlying trade price, think there's a car comming up at H&H in buxton next month. a few Fcars end up going through the prestige sales at the big auctions instead of the classics, have you subscribed to ADT, Coys etc? If I hear of anything I've got your E-mail so I'll let you know | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2003 |
Guys cheers for the advice. Andrew - The ADT auction, which was that? I usually keep an eye on the classic auctions. I must have missed that. | ||
| Norm (32storm)
New member Username: 32storm Post Number: 48 Registered: 5-2003 |
I don't like yellow Ferrari's, but that's just personal preference. The bumpers can be easily removed & re-sprayed black at any time, and the wheels can be easily replaced if so desired. So it comes down to the "8" engine. Is this the car you really want? Do you plan on holding onto the car? If it's what you want, and it's priced right buy it. As far as being rare, due to RH drive cab in your market, I think wrong engine more than washes that out. However, if it was a 3.2 engine then it would be different. As there is no shortage of Mondial cab's for sale in the US, have you considered importing a correct car? | ||
| Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax Post Number: 275 Registered: 7-2003 |
Look at it this way: A person has an empty 25-year-old scotch bottle and funnels an 8-year-old scotch into the bottle. That person tells you this before they offer the bottle for sale. You buy it. What are you drinking? | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 370 Registered: 9-2002 |
Adnaan, if its more than 10K don't bother!, if it's less and there is nothing wrong (within reason) then go for it, just bear in mind that when yo want to trade up it WILL be v difficult to sell, as lets face it the majority of F owners want a perfect one not a bitsa car!, One went through the ring at ADT a few months ago and only took 8.5K+premium!!!, has the seller confirmed why it has a Mondial8 engine instead of the real one? oh and the rear seats are only OK as long as the driver isnt over 6ft | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
New member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2003 |
Also can anyone confirm if the rear legroom on the cab is less than the coupe. I know the seats are closer together, but im interested if the legroom is reduced too. | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
New member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 47 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hmmm I agree with a lot if the comments. One thing I keep thinking is they only made 24 RHD QV cabs. So its a bit of a rare car over here. As for the fact that its a cab. Well the cost of it means I can drive a cab for less than I would be paying for a coupe. Even a Mondial 8 coupe. So Greg sound like good value? You mentioned $18K. This is much less than that! Also did I mention the interior is in mint condition. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 384 Registered: 4-2002 |
These cars are not expensive. Why not buy a car that you realy want? | ||
| casey slattery (Mondialcab)
New member Username: Mondialcab Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2003 |
Adnaan, dont settle for a F- that is not exactly what your looking for. I spent over a year looking for mine. I have to agree that the 8 engine does detract from it and will hurt your ability to unload it if/when you decide to sell. However, I think the paint is a huge plus. Its beautiful and looks great with that body style! For what its worth, (I know i'm just a dumb rookie kid) I would not hesitate to spend around 20K if the PPI checks out. | ||
| Greg (Greg512tr)
Junior Member Username: Greg512tr Post Number: 197 Registered: 2-2002 |
I think $18k would be tempting. Once you get over $20 you have other options. Its worth more than a Mondial 8 since its a cab. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1717 Registered: 11-2001 |
well, how can you get it for "less than market value"? if you're a qualified buyer; and they're a motivated seller; and you're willing to pay X then how is X not market value? the car has had many modifications (as ferraris go). the engine swap being a big one. market value would be "standard market value for a perfect car" minus wear and mileage and broken stuff. and then minus the modifications. so "less than market value" would be further below whatever that result is. if you "don't want to get stuck with" a car, i would buy a very nice original not-screwed-with example. that will be much easier to move in a hurry than something like this. my two drachmas, worth precisely what you paid for them  . doody. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3054 Registered: 2-2001 |
The Mondial has never been my cup of tea, but if you really like it, then wahtever makes you happy. # 1 rule of investing - Buy stuff you like cus you could very well get stuck with it Good Luck | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
New member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2003 |
Guys, need to pass this by you. Mentioned this car before, and rejected it. But I keep thinking about it. Here's the pic:  Sorry for the poor quality pic. The plus side is price. Its dead cheap. The downside is as follows: 1. The car is a Mondial QV Cab, but the engine has been changed for a Mondial 8 engine. I know its less performance, but the price is reflecting this. 2. The colour combination would not be my first choice: Yellow with black yellow (piped yellow). I thought it would look awful, but the car actually looks nice. In the pic the colour looks slightly goldish, but i've seen the car, and its actually more like the yellow car pictured below. 3. The car has had a few minor non standard things done to it. It has the 348 wheels (which I like), and the black bumpers have been colour coded. I have always prefered a Ferrari to be original, but the changes dont look bad. Question is should I buy? I dont want to get stuck with it when I come to selling it. I can get the car at less than market value, and of course the car will have a PPI before purchase. I have been informed that the car has just had a cambelt change and service too, but this will be examined in a PPI if I decide to get it. Should I?? Here's a pic of another yellow one for colour reference for colour:  Adnaan Also does the cab have less rear legroom than the coupe? Can someone confirm? |