| Author | Message | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3315 Registered: 2-2001 |
The 962 is a great car and the prices were low, not sure what they are now. But the stories I heard about the maintenance made me cringe so I decided against it | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 353 Registered: 9-2002 |
William I like the S7 it reminds me of a street legal race car, like the 962 porsche. I thought you wanted a 962 not to long ago. But I do love the f40.These are problems I wish I had. | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Intermediate Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 1013 Registered: 11-2001 |
Saw an S7 (dark metallic orange / tan interior) on the interstate and the same car later at an exit in the parking lot of a Wendy's. Driver was nowhere around, but the S7's windows were rolled completely down and it was POURING DOWN RAIN! Car was heading south thru Georgia towards Florida. BTW, I'd prefer the F40  . | ||
| Rosso (Redhead)
Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 495 Registered: 12-2001 |
Being an S7 dealer-I might be able to shed some light. It is a very beautiful car. Some of the fit and finish is not to Italian car specs. AS well, ingress and degrees is not easy at all. I am a thin 5-11 and it is cumbersome at best. Once your inside, it feels like a Lotus Esprit to me, in terms of size and placement of feet. I have never driven one, so I can not comment on that. We have sold one, and for the first service, we had it sent back to Saleen, and in the time it was down there, the customer sold it back to us(long story--nothing to due with this car). Another customer that had driven it stated that it was a bit "rough" around the edges in terms of drivability (?), and he owns a few HIGH end Ferrari's. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2755 Registered: 10-2002 |
Neb is correct. (BMW and cyl. dem.) | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 677 Registered: 11-2002 |
oops...I mean BMW....I think. | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 676 Registered: 11-2002 |
Just a Ford: Ha! As far as I know, the only thing it shares with a "Ford" is the cylinder dimensions of a 427. I could be wrong on the details here, but the damn car is pretty original. That comment is like saying the McLaren F1 is nothing more than a Mercedes! | ||
| Kds (Kds)
Member Username: Kds Post Number: 296 Registered: 5-2003 |
William.... I wasn't referring to quality of the actual product, but resale marketability. What's he sold "new" half a dozen street versions...maybe 10 ? I really don't know the numbers, but that's how I feel about it. Using it for the track is another story, but you still have to look at the numbers. Used race cars and club cars have a marketplace that thrives as well. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3308 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good points, when the time comes I'll see if i can rent a track for a little "taste test" | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 204 Registered: 9-2001 |
from the local dealer here in seattle. If you are interested, ask for david bruski: http://www.parkplaceltd.com/Makes/SaleenS7.asp parkplace is also sponsored (well i guess being a relative of the owner helps) chris bingham through daytona in a saleen s7r (a hideous orange color) that they were tryign to sell for some time about two years ago w/the teamseattle.com effort. I think they have dumped them now - the issues early on was related to part availability. Also there were some issues in that the race officialls weren't convinced that the saleen s7 was a production car in 2001 since there were very very very few produced. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2746 Registered: 10-2002 |
William I'm with Bill, Jon, and Martin on this one. If you're trying to win LeMans today you need a current race car. If you want a very serious club racer I'd get an F-40LM or an F40 if you wanted to also drive it on the street. Modern Race Cars are very large $ to run much more than even an F40LM. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7063 Registered: 8-2002 |
How about the Mosler MT900 Photon; the magazine article i have at home says it's a very unforgiving car and would be great for racing... i'm sure a few modifications would make it hella fast, too... | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Intermediate Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 1105 Registered: 8-2001 |
William, ALthough I haven't driven a race Saleen S7 I talked with Franz Konrad at Daytona at lenght back in 2001 about his Saleen S7R. If you're talking street car I can't make a comment and I would take an F40 over the street car any day. The race car is extremely expensive to run. The entire body is a carbon fiber and the engine lasts maybe 30 hours at most in sprint form and 40 hours in endurance form. While yu can buy the race car for around $500,000 from Saleen Konrad told me that it took another 100K of prep work and developement to make it competitive. In comparison to an F40 street car the Saleen S7R would destroy it. It would be a much closer match to an F40 LM but even there I think it would win. I saw them run at Daytona in 2001 and 2002 and their straightline speed was almost as fast as the slower LMP cars. Ludicrously expesnive and ludicrously fast!  FYI: Just got back from Pocono, was hoping you'd make it as there was only one other car (Chris S.'s F355 C) to play with........wound out 6th gear at 7000 rpm. Great fun. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 www.flatoutracing.net | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 6377 Registered: 5-2001 |
for everyday driving? F40 For the track and best results? Saleen But then there is 15 years in between them so very unfair to compare. Think Enzo vs Saleen | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 963 Registered: 2-2002 |
True, Omar, there was a lot of British influence in the Ford GT, but they didn't start winning races until the American teams were called in to develop the car. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 962 Registered: 2-2002 |
Funny how marketability and resale value come up in this discussion. I seriously doubt that there would be much left to sell after William was through flogging either of these cars on the track. William, I think you need to drive them both and figure it out for yourself. They are very different cars and I'm sure you will be able to decide one way or the other. Getting advice from a bunch of armchair quarterbacks like us isn't likely to provide an accurate answer to your question. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1074 Registered: 9-2002 |
Will I think the GT40s were a british body with major tech assistance for an English group if I recall. As for my opinion, I would have to say F40, just because then you would have a nice spread of Ferraris. Saleens are sick, and very sexy, but I would have to say, you already have alot of Ferrari racing experiance, might as well keep it up in a F40 moddeded to over 500 or even 600 hp | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3303 Registered: 2-2001 |
Rob the original GT40s were also "Just Fords" & they kicked Ferraris azz. Also whne I was at the Miami GP I noticed that ALL the CART cars had "just Ford" engines. Ford has built some seriously badazz cars like the GT40, SHelby Cobra 427, Mustang Boss 429, I'd have them all in my garage As for the Vector, theres no way you can compare Vector (Jerry Weigert) with Steve Saleen. Saleen is a lot more like Michelotto than Vector which was crap | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Intermediate Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 1214 Registered: 10-2001 |
Where does one get service for a Saleen? | ||
| rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
Member Username: Robiferretti Post Number: 383 Registered: 4-2002 |
s7 is a ford... a sick fast ford, but its still a ford | ||
| Kds (Kds)
Member Username: Kds Post Number: 295 Registered: 5-2003 |
I think the S7 is hideously overpriced with even more extremely limited marketability than an F-40.....think "Vector". That's my only comment. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3301 Registered: 2-2001 |
OK, so I'm trying to motivate myself more to go through law school & pass the Bar exams. So I'm thinking when I pass the bar I'll give myself a nice present So these are 2 of my favorite cars. Ive ridden in an F40 & that thing was amazingly fast. Of course Ive driven against a whole bunch of F40s, Ive even beaten more than a few Dont hvae a lot of nfo on the S7 although Ive seen the race cars up close down here in Miami Which do you prefer & why ? |