| Author | Message | ||
| Dave Janes (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 178 Registered: 1-2003 |
The sport seats are like a rock, if you are track star do it, but sit in one at the showroom and you will never do it unless you are a racer most of the time. (but I have to admit the metal seat belt cut ins are cool looking) | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2003 |
Well, I'm going to take a close look at the sport seats, thats for sure. I notice they are available as full leather or with fabric inserts...any opinions as to which is way to go? Does the fabric hold up? I've got leather seats with cloth inserts in the E46 M3 I'm driving right now and like them. A friend with a Spider bought the sport seats and both he and his wife don't like them, say they are too uncomfortable. Maybe neither one of them fit the seat right, he's about 6'3" and she's about 5'1". I'm 5'10" and my wife is 5'4". He says he'll trade straight across if I get the standard seats. Is that possible with a reasonable amount of labor? | ||
| 911 Fan (911fan)
Junior Member Username: 911fan Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2003 |
My turn... The Daytona seats (power or manual) seem to hold up better than the standard ones, which start sagging and showing wear way too soon. Check out some older 360s with comparable miles and see for yourself. The power Daytona has a better adjustment capability than the manual (ie, you can adjust the power seat to positions unattainable in the manual one). Also, I believe the power Daytona has more vertical travel, which might be useful for shorter drivers. I'd definitely get the leather headliner - Brian is right about the standard headliner being kind of weird. Plus, it's the one option which is reasonably priced! Skip the sunroof - it's poorly designed, it's impractical for regular use, and it spoils the aesthetics of the coupe. Skip the shields - everyone will figure out it's a Ferrari soon enough (the shields issue is almost as polarizing as F1 vs 6-speed - get the 6-speed...) | ||
| robert biscan (Tn_ferrari_bob)
New member Username: Tn_ferrari_bob Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2003 |
Get the shields and rear challenge for sure. Get the manual for sure. I do recomend the upgraded stereo and cd and the 3 piece wheels. For one thing the wheels will set your car apart at resale and they look good. I got the power daytona seats and really don't think the power is at all important, the daytona seats I like. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 461 Registered: 3-2002 |
Not too sure about all of Dave's advice... > Leather door sills are really nice but pricey Don't do much for me. The Leather headliner is good though as the standard headliner is a bit... well... strange looking. > Fire Extinguisher scares the passenger and is too small to stop a real problem. Better than nothing, given most aren't going to install a full fire protection system. And scaring the passengers a bit is a good thing... adds to the experience without requiring any real added danger.  > Personilized ID plate is cool but use a good name, someone famous and > say you are second owner, Mike Tyson, OJ, 50 cent, etc,. Yeah, like maybe "OJ LWYR" ... that'll be good. > F1 works good from '03 on. Prior to that it sucks. Utter nonsense. I hear some early 99's weren't entirely sorted out, but from late 99 on the F1's are great. I have a very early 2000. > Sunroof looks like its worth it but you have to drop the hi fi option, > I would do the sun roof if I had to do it over. I would strongly recommend against the sunroof... not good for resale... not good for track driving... not too good even for cruising... your passengers will be negatively impressed by it. > Navigation, forget it. Truly... its a textual nav system... and I hear its very hard to read... too little space for the necessary text. | ||
| N'din (Abangdin)
Junior Member Username: Abangdin Post Number: 93 Registered: 7-2003 |
Gary, I have the sports seats. They are awesome. I've driven on 500km journeys with 1 fuel stop and the seats are so comfortable, because they mould onto your back. But it is on the track that the sports seat pays for itself. There is no sliding and moving around and that boost your confidence factor. I have the Challenge rims and they are almost half the weight of the normal rims and they look good too. I would recommend them. I also have the challenge grills and Scuderia shields. The shield add that bit of sparkle to the red car. My seats are biege. I would strongly advise against magnolia because I had that in my F355 and it was hell to look after. Do not order the sun-roof. It's aweful. It's just a piece of cover which you have to lift manually to get your sun-roof. Enjoy your waiting. !! | ||
| Dave Janes (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 176 Registered: 1-2003 |
Not really sure, It seems like its in south west austria, stavilo pass or some name to that effect, I have seen it on a map and intend to use it someday soon. In the mean time the 405 freeway at 35 mph is a big day for me. Life in the USA is really good despite this situation. | ||
| DL (Darth550)
Member Username: Darth550 Post Number: 462 Registered: 7-2003 |
Dave, Where is that road? (in your profile). DL | ||
| Dave Janes (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 175 Registered: 1-2003 |
My opinon after 2 360's Daytona Seats are must, must, must have Shields are must have Challenge Grills, can be added later without much cost. Hi-Fi is excellent Leather door sills are really nice but pricey Power seats are a waste of $$$ Fire Extinguisher scares the passenger and is too small to stop a real problem. Personilized ID plate is cool but use a good name, someone famous and say you are second owner, Mike Tyson, OJ, 50 cent, etc,. F1 works good from '03 on. Prior to that it sucks. Modular wheels are worth the money. Don't scratch them though, its major bucks at the parts counter. CD changer, it can wait but its worth it, if you try to change a CD on the road you get a lane change at no extra charge. Sunroof looks like its worth it but you have to drop the hi fi option, I would do the sun roof if I had to do it over. Spare tire, non unless you order it, depends on your intended use. Navigation, forget it. Leather door sills rule but it comes with a leather rear shelf which is a waste, do it however if you can aford it. Daytona seats-So nice get them alone if you cannot afford the car. Ideal interior of all time is Cuiou? (not sure of spelling), sabia stiching, tan inserts and black dash. Piping seems weird to me but I am sure it can work in certain cases. I heard of one guy getting the same color piping, this could be interesting. Whatever you do, get an alternate stitching for whatever you are into. For some reason the coupe is more fun to drive than the spider but I cannot determine why. At the end of the day, the F1 is more fun, get it unless you need to cut the budget, its really more fun, downshifts especially. Unfortunately the warranty matters. | ||
| DL (Darth550)
Member Username: Darth550 Post Number: 461 Registered: 7-2003 |
IMHO, the challenge wheels absolutely make the car(5-6K). A friend of mine just got a 6 spd manual, black/sabbia with sabbia stitching on the dash and red calipers. I convinced him to put the front and rear challenge grilles, challenge wheels and a Fuchs. The car is just SICK! DL | ||
| Norman (Storminnormin)
Member Username: Storminnormin Post Number: 271 Registered: 7-2002 |
They're not painful. | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yes, I'm working with Evan at FoSF and felt like I had instant rapport with him. Sure, he's in sales, but he is clearly an enthusiast and knows his stuff. I am really impressed that they host 3 track events per year at Thunderhill. How many manufacturers/dealers would do that? I plan to do maybe four track events annually and love that I don't have to hide it from the dealership. I've got to consider the sport seats, but I'm afraid they would be painful on any trip over an hour or so. | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2003 |
People have mentioned the modular wheels (I'm thinking these are the ones similar to the 550 Barchetta wheels), but what about the Challenge wheels? My favorite on the 360. Challenge grills on both ends and shields are the way to go. | ||
| Norman (Storminnormin)
Member Username: Storminnormin Post Number: 270 Registered: 7-2002 |
I have the carbon fibre racing seats in my 360. Fits me like a glove. There is no height adjustment. Back rake adjustment is manual. Lumbar supports are so deep that I have trouble getting out without sliding the seat all the way back first. That's a minor issue. I love the seat. Wouldn't have it any other way. | ||
| Michael W. (Whimike)
Junior Member Username: Whimike Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2003 |
Gary, I bought my 360M from FoSF and am on the list for the 360Spider through them. I am not sure who you dealt with over there, but I dealth with Evan and he is awesome. I forgot to mention the sports seats. My car has the regular power seats. I really wanted the sports seats as they are just very cool. I sat in the Challenge Stradale they had at FoSF which had the sports seats and they felt fantastic and I think I am going to order them in my Spider. -- Michael | ||
| Nick Tingle (Ntingle)
New member Username: Ntingle Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2003 |
I've heard that the electric seats go back further than the manuals and thus work better for taller people. Don't know if this means 'regular' tall people or basketball players. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 459 Registered: 3-2002 |
> I would know if the soprt seats on Modena are more comfortable than standar daytona seats. First, the Daytona seats aren't "standard"... they are an option like the "race seats". If by "soprt seats" you mean the racing seats, then you should know that the racing seats are NOT comfortable per se... they forego some comfort to increase hold. However, above .9g laterally, those racing seats start paying off... nothing is more uncomfortable than trying to operate the pedals with your feet while trying to keep yourself in your seat with your knees, and all the time having your butt riding one or the other side bolster. But if you're taking a >100 mile trip on the highway, the lack of padding and the lumbar anti-support can get a bit uncomfortable. I cured the latter by adding a lumbar support pad, but the former remains true. HTH. | ||
| alberto bavai (Abavai)
Junior Member Username: Abavai Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2002 |
I would know if the soprt seats on Modena are more comfortable than standar daytona seats. | ||
| alberto bavai (Abavai)
Junior Member Username: Abavai Post Number: 173 Registered: 10-2002 |
I love sport seats in magnolia colout and red with red harneses. Red colour , shields, rear challenge, f1 ,xenon. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2725 Registered: 6-2001 |
Gary: I hope the 04 will be revised, but I've heard the new car is due in 05. If you've driven a 360, I can't really see the need for more power, since unless you're on a track, the 360's performance is way more than adequate. The build date for my car was supposed to be October, with a December, January delivery date. I've heard that there is some slippage, but I'll see. Art | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks for all the input. I've seen the shields and love the look, just didn't want to commit a faux pas I later regretted. Yes, Michael, the car is ordered thru FoSF, no build date specified. I have seen rumors the '04 will have more power (~420) and redesigned headlights. I thought the replacement design was still about 3 years off. I liked the power seats for the lumbar adjustment. What is the list opinion on the standard seat lumbar support? | ||
| Michael W. (Whimike)
Junior Member Username: Whimike Post Number: 74 Registered: 7-2003 |
Gary: I am local to you. Did you place your order with FoSF? In regards to options: 1. Rear challenge grill is a must. There is a lot of heat in that engine compartment and the grill not only looks great but allows that heat to escape quicker. 2. Front challenge grills. I think these look much better than those slats. 3. Scuderia shields are a must for a red Ferrari, they look so nice on them. If you have a chance head to Bentley of Los Gatos (formerly Ferrari of Los Gatos), they have 2 Red 360 Spiders there, one with shields and one without. You can compare. 4. I have modular wheels on my 360, I actually prefer the looks of the standard wheels. This one is personal preference. 5. Against the grain of the other members I would opt for the upgraded stereo. The base stereo is such garbage that I can't figure out if I NEVER listed to the stereo because the engine sounds so good or if the stereo just sounds so bad. The upgraded stereo adds some more bass to the system, which is sorely needs. If you find yourself on any long highway trips where you do want to listen to something, this is where the upgraded stereo may come in useful. 5. I would forego the sunroof, as I believe Ferrari has the absolute worst design in the industry for a sunroof. In order to open it you need to be stopped and have to unlatch the thing, remove it, and store it behind the seats! 6. There is the seat options of piping and deviating stiching (I think). For some reason I really like the piping and think it sets off a nice outline of the seats. Again, Bentley of Los Gatos has several 360's on their lot with tan interiors with and without piping, so you can have a look. 7. After you get the car I would seriously consider getting clear armor or other such product installed. Ferrari uses water based (?) paints that will chip if you even look funny at it. 8. Again, after you get it, it is a MUST to install an exhaust that brings out the true music of the engine. I heavly lean towards the Capristo. -- Michael | ||
| J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Member Username: Jeff Post Number: 295 Registered: 2-2001 |
Gary 1. The rear challenge grill is a must 2. I have the power seats. My wife also drives the car so power seats are handy. I wish the 360 came with memory seats but it doesn't. 3. Shields are a must on a red car. My first 360 was red without shields and I regretted it. 4. I have the modular wheels and would not do it again. I prefer the look of the standard wheel. 5. I found no value in the upgraded radio. I never listen to the radio. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2719 Registered: 6-2001 |
Gary: I've got one on order. The modular wheels are expensive, and fankley, in my opinon, aren't as good looking, the electric seats are nice, but what is there value. Since most of these cars are only driven by the same person, there is little need to be able to adjust the seats. The upgraded radio won't work with the sunroof. the Challenge grill is a functional and costemic option which works. I don't know about the shields, they were only an option for the race cars, but if you like their looks, by all means. Just my thoughts about this. Have they told you when the build date is? By the way, the rumours that I've heard is that the new car is due in 05, and has a lot of the Enzo in it. Art | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hello list - I am new to Ferraris, having owned Porsches and BMWs all my life, most recently an E46 M3. Always lusted after a Ferrari and finally pulled the trigger. The projected delivery date for my 360 is next summer, and I could use some expert advice on options and other choices. The order as it currently stands is Rosso Corsa with Tan power seats, manual gearbox, shields, and rear Challenge grill (still enough time to change any choices). I tried the Daytona seats, and like the standard seats just as much. I'll be tracking the car 3 or 4 times a year. What about the modular wheel option? Are they any lighter? What about the shields? I love the look, but some say they should only be on the Ferrari team race cars, anything else is poaching. All opinions appreciated! |