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Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Post Number: 1163
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   

Joe- to each his own I say!

To me, it's rolling art, but it's still a car. The bike rack to me enhances what the car is all about, sheer enjoyment of life and all the beauty it has to offer!

Best!
Ben.
Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Post Number: 306
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   

Last year I rented the F40 while in Germany, and took it out on the Autobahn. Needless to say, it was an outstanding experience. After driving a 360, when you first hop into the seat of an F40, here is how it feels:

1) The steering on the F40 at first feels very heavy without power assist. But once you get moving, this thought goes away.
2) The brake pedal is hard, and requires quite a bit of effort to stop the car, until the brakes heat up. Once they are hot, again, this thought goes away.
3) The power curve in both the 360 and F40 is not linear. Both start making power only after you reach 4-5,000. The difference is that 360 power comes on smooth, whereas the F40 power comes on well, VIOLENTLY.
4) The F40 pulls so strong all the way up past 170mph, whereas top gear in 360 at speed over 150 it's not pulling as hard.
5) The 360 turns heads of bystanders. The F40 turns traffic into bystanders.
Joe (Jts)
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:23 am:   

I hear what you're saying you Philistines :-)

P.S. "decorum" does not mean a garage queen that is "shown" once a year on some lawn - it means giving a piece of art the respect she is due. But like I said, I hear what you're saying.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1749
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:52 am:   

Vincent: as you saw today - it's plenty fast. But can you imagine if there were an F40 out there? Of course, I'd be DEAD!

--Dan
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
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Post Number: 2362
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:24 am:   

Ben, I agree with you all the way :-)
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 1124
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:58 pm:   

Dan,

Guess the 550 is not fast enough :-)

Vincent.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Post Number: 1152
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:45 pm:   

I think it's faquing fantastic! I saw that pic, and I immediately thought of half a dozen places I want to take an F40/Bike-rack! Friggin brilliant.


PS: Joe, I'd throw a trailer on a 288 anyday. decorum, if decorum means keeping it in a garage 364 days a year, and then draging it onto a lawn at a car show for 1 day I want no part of that! (conversely, I'm fine showing a car that sees a lot of action, but I probally wouldn't clean it first :D Infact, first car show I ever went to, I arrived late after a 150mile drive, parked the car in the middle field, and slaped a 'post-it' on my cracked fender saying "Sears Point Turn 8a was here." )

At any one time, we can all only drive ONE car. Might as well make every time friggin count.


Best!
Ben.

PS: pardon the friggings. F40s get me excited.
Joe (Jts)
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Post Number: 218
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:38 pm:   

Dan - fair enough.

Did you make it out to see the F40 with the mods and all the spares? What's the verdict? As awesome in person as it looks online?
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1739
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:44 am:   

Joe: Not PS. That's an actual photo. And Amir's respect for the cars is definetly there. This guy probably has more love for the marque than most of us - and proves it so. Who else can put up with an F40 for ~50k miles? Not ust put up, but actually drive this car at 10/10ths (VCHC, etc).

I am truly in awe.

--Dan
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Post Number: 1143
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 9:35 pm:   


quote:

What's next? A 288GTO with a U-Haul trailer?




I can't remember who originally posted this:

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Joe (Jts)
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 8:07 pm:   

I have to ask - is that F40 with the bike rack a Photoshop job?

If it is real...I respect the fact that this guy drives his F-Cars all the time but imho, it seems really disrespectful to such a magnificent beast to throw a bike rack on her. So ridiculous in fact, that I assumed Photoshop.

Yes, I know that people are entitled to do whatever they want to their own property...but let's maintain some decorum here ! :-)

What's next? A 288GTO with a U-Haul trailer?
John Millard (Jmillard308)
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:12 am:   

Chris
Thanks for your input - really appreciate it
John
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 779
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:32 pm:   

John, is the title clean or salvage?

The low end on a F40 is about $275,000 the high about $350,000.

A proper repaint is going to run $15,000.00

subtract for repairs, that could easily hit $50,000 to $100,000 (the hood alone is about $30,000)

I euro F40? I have never seen one for sale in the US, I do not know where it would be priced, I suspect $50,000 under a US car, but again that is a guess.

So I would start with the assumption a euro F40 is worth $225,000, less paint, less repairs, less for a salvage title.

I would guess something just north of $100,000.

It would depend on the extent of damage...
John Millard (Jmillard308)
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 11:57 am:   

Chris
Would value your opinion on this one - given that it wouldn't have to be US legal (they say the car in in Philadelphia), what sort of value would you put on it?
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 776
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:50 am:   

John.......

it is all about price........ if it is cheap enough.

The color is an automatic deduct... The damage might be easy to fix, but it won't be cheap.

Where is this car located? it is a euro car, not US legal... it would be cost prohibitive to make US legal so this is a euro only project unless it has already been converted..
Richanton (Richanton)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:48 am:   

This site has a couple F-cars listed, including a 360 spider. Very interesting. Does anyone know anything about Autosource? Any thoughts on whether it could possibly be worth fixing these cars?
John Millard (Jmillard308)
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:30 am:   

Quote:
Out of curiosity would any of you consider buying a car like this?http://www.readytofix.com/Inventory/F40.htm

Does anyone know what sort of dollars this will go for?
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 775
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:24 am:   

No, I never got a LM hood, I never found one.

I had some guys who said they could make one, but I was not comfortable with that.

I drive the F40 year round weather permitting...

I love Paris.... I hope to come back some day, maybe I should wait till Bush is out of office!
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1780
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:12 am:   

LOL i hope she'll be ready soon :-) Do you use her during winter ?
I dont remember if i asked you already but did you buy the front LM hood ? I remember that you wanted it at some point .

Yes i live in Paris full time , finishing law school.

Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 774
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:09 am:   

Andrew,
the engine is out as of right now, but should be back on the street by the end of next week...

I had a valve stem seal go bad and it was oiling #3 cylinder. It should be very happy now!

Do you live in France full time?
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1779
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:06 am:   

Chris , nice too see you !

I totally agree ! The Stradale is a mini F40 :-).
Same philosophy !

How 's your F40 ?

Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 773
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:03 am:   

Andrew, I think a Stradale would be the perfect compliment to a F40.

I have never warmed up to a 360, but a fly yellow Stradale could find a home in my garage someday...
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1777
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:00 am:   

lol ! You wouldnt ?

I'll have to sneak in by Mexico then !

Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1721
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 9:50 am:   

"And in world news today, a French citizen was not granted entry into the United States. Andrew Menasce was witheld by Customs Agents for reasons unknown. Sources suggest that this could, in fact, be related to a vehicular argument, and that his denial of entry is no more than a revenge-ploy."
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1771
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 8:48 am:   

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Dan (Bobafett)
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Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 8:27 am:   

You better watch out... that's all I'm saying.

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1768
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 7:42 am:   

LOL :-)..i promise i wont talk anymore about the Stradale until then ...yeah right :-)
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1714
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 7:19 am:   

You'll be sorry when you're in NY! :-)

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1765
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 6:51 am:   

Dan , what can i say ..:-) Im sorry :-)
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1711
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 6:41 am:   

Just read through all of NSXfiles. It's 4.40am. Again, Andrew, you cause problems for me!

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1760
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 5:06 am:   

All the stroies about the Virginia Hill climb. I read that back in 1998/99 i think.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1710
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 4:29 am:   

Andrew: what stories on NSXfiles? Where are they?

--Dan
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1700
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:23 am:   

Michael,

Los Altos Hills.

--Dan

PS: You coming to the drive this weekend? See the other thread. PM me if you need more info.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Post Number: 1135
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:14 am:   

Dan- that's the coolest thing I've ever fricking seen!

LM trim it looks like too, {bows down}

Best!
Ben.
Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 1:05 am:   

Oh $HIT, i've seen that F40 before. The owner lives in the bay area doesnt he? Man, was his car loud. I was 15 cars behind him and my ears were hurting
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1694
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:36 am:   

All I have to say is ... respect. Lots of it.

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1756
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:28 am:   

Amir Rosenbaum ?

read all his stories on NSX files and on Forza...he seems to be a great dude !
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1691
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:12 am:   

Exactly right, Tyler. Stand-up guy. Met him thruogh a friend.

--Dan
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Post Number: 1129
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   

Dan, I think there was an article in one of the early Forza magazines about this guy. If I remember correctly his name was Amir.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 11:38 pm:   

A friend sent this. The owner drove the piss out of his TR (100k miles+, including a win at Virginia City HC), another 100k+ on his TR, and has some ungodly amount on his F40 now.

MUCH respect for this guy. Drive em into the ground:

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Jeff Green (Carguy)
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Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 9:28 pm:   

Oh my Gawd....that car is awesome! I don't mean to intrude....just drooling and a bit over enthusiastic about F40s.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1660
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 9:18 pm:   

Ben: Yes. Can be had for a little less, with negotiation.

I don't know about the deal of the century, but it does look like an attractive prospect. We shall see.

The beautiful thing about the F40 is that no matter what, there's always a good one available. That's why I'm not feeling rushed about it. If this one goes, oh well, there are at least 20 more ont he market.

--Dan
Joe (Jts)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 8:04 pm:   

Yeah - $315K for that car, with those mods and those spares has to be the deal of the century.

Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 8:02 pm:   

I like that reverse lockout!

Dan- is this Benny's car? BUY IT!

Only downside I see would be the relatively low miles.

But that car at 315k is a steal. Damn.

Best!
Ben.
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
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Post Number: 849
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   

Rick, I posted additional info in your tech thread, FYI if you didn't see it.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1651
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   

Rick,

Very interesting input. Would love to hear more about your adj. suspension. I will PM you.

Chris/Joe: I have seen that car on the site, and actually, it's very local. I will most likely check it out towards the end of the week. There are a few objections I have to certain things, but it's nothing terribly major.

--Dan
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:51 pm:   

Joe,

Yes, it is an excellent buy. This car is carries pretty much the same mods as mine with the same set of spares.

I have a lot more than $315,000 in mine. A purist might object to the mods, but everything that has been done can be undone, but I do not know why you would do that!

Looks like a very nice car.
Joe (Jts)
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:40 pm:   

Dan - have you seen this?: http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/FE-F40-90568/main.shtml

Chris Parr, Chris Burch and other owners - is it just me or is this an awesome deal? Or am I missing something obvious?
Rick Doria (Zsnnf)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   

My car has 28,000 miles. As far as repairs go, it has had a clutch, a 30K service, cam cover seals leaked, and a fuel pump problem (broken wire at pump or something) Even when the pump failed the car was driveable. The car has 2 seperate systems.

My car also has the Euro suspension fitted. It does make it easier to get around town with. I understand these kits are no longer available from Ferrari.

Rick
Manu (Manu)
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Post Number: 866
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 7:27 am:   

IMO the F40 has no equal.

I've driven quite a few cars and this is EASILY the best. The way it lunges forward when the turbos spool up is just devastating... nothing *FEELS* faster (including the F50 I was once a passenger in) and then there is the weight... it steers so directly, slows down well (once the brakes have got some temperature mind - not easy to do on the road).....

It is EASILY streetable...this is not an issue at all. It shrinks around you, feels small and nimble and the adjustable suspension cars eliminate problems with ground clearance. It's soo light you can see the nose bobbing around over bumps....I stalled it quite a few time getting used to the on/off clutch but after that the car is just a joy....

I haven't driven an Enzo (ridden an F50) but I don't like the idea of an F1 gearbox and I doubt it will have that extreme visceral quality the F40 has.
The reality is, after driving an F40 ALL the modern Ferraris will feel just a tad weak.... They don't make 'em like they used to eh?
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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Post Number: 1035
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 3:35 am:   

Don't wreck your clutch, get a winch for heavens sake.
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:22 am:   

Tyson, for the right amount of money, i would.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:02 am:   

Dino, Chris P, Chris B, Tim, Rick, etc - thanks for the comments. Sorry I didn't get to this earlier - been off the board.

Overall, it seems that the car really doesn't have too much that can go wrong, so long as you keep on top of it. Luckily for me there's someone very good very close by who loves F40s as it is, so I'm not concerned on that front. I'd be more afraid of stuffing the car at some point on track than anything else. Definetly a car to grow into.

The next step is to find one to drive. I've been looking (albeit a bit fruitlessly) for a 92 with the euro adjustable suspension retrofitted. My guess is I'll have to forget the adjustable susp. to find a car.

If I can think of anything else, I'll ask. Thanks again.

--Dan
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 1:00 am:   

Out of curiosity would any of you consider buying a car like this?http://www.readytofix.com/Inventory/F40.htm
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:51 am:   

I like the F40 much better than the F50, and according to many who actually own both, so do they!
1987 Jerry (Slag_328gts)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:45 am:   

Is it just me, or does anyone else here like the F40 better than the F50?? The F50 looks to polished to me - I like the raw look of the F40.

I need to go to Scottsdale just to look at Tim's toys. :-)
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:17 pm:   

Lucky bastards!! I want one too!!!
Ernie (Ernie)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:06 pm:   

When is Roland gonna chime in?
john (Johnwto)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:02 pm:   

no chris i have not driven one yet. the 360 is starting to feel so slow. i drove a murciego recently and was very impressed with the power, i'm just not 100% sold on the looks. i love the f40's looks except the inside is kinda plain. so far i have not heard even ONE person say they were disappointed with the f40.
Dino Micalizio (Ingenere)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   

The F40 I had was TOTALLY reliable! AC rocked and who needs a radio when all that music is going on over your right shoulder. It never let me down on the road and was brilliant at the track, Sometimes I drove it daily to work. The first trip with it was when I picked it up.....LA to Phx in 3hrs 20mins...that almost beats Southwest Airlines.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   

John, I think they are just as reliable as a 355 or a 360...

That said, I have been stranded in a 308, a 348, 355 and the F40!

John, have you driven one? It is not like any other Ferrari, a 355 is like your wife, you could spend the rest of your life with her, a F40 is like your mistress, a few pounds lighter, a lot quicker, but you may only want to play on the weekends.....

(Disclaimer: just an anolgy, no wives were actually used during the making of this post, plus my wife HATES that description.. lol)
john (Johnwto)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   

thanks chris. i've had a 355 and two 360's. it's not a matter of being able to afford it, it's being able to justify it. i would puke if my 355 cost me 25K to repair. i dont think any car can justify that type of repair bill other than a super exotic car...........like the f40!!!

how about reliabilty? i would put about 5000 miles a year on it with about 4 track days. has the car ever left you stranded? i really want one but i just expect it to be super reliable. maybe that's asking too much for a 12 year old supercar.
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   

John,

You can have a $30,000 repair bill on a 328.

I had a $26,000 repair bill on my 355.

I just replaced and an exhaust valve on the F40, dealer cost on the valve was $832.00, I would hate to have to replace 16 of them. This will be a $7,500 repair I suspect with labor.

If you can truly afford a $300,000 car, you can afford a $30,000 repair bill. I was more scared of a $20,000 engine rebuild on my 308!

Hey, my F40 has been a pleasure to own, very reliable, but any Ferrari can dent your wallet.

Chris
john (Johnwto)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 9:37 pm:   

are these cars expensive to maintain? i have been thinking about buying one for months but i'm afraid of getting a $30,000 repair bill one day.
Chris Burch (Cyb)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 9:33 pm:   

Dan,

There is just nothing out there that will give you the exhillartion and test your limits as the F40. I have owned or driven most "all of them" and there isn't anything that can compare. ( I am still very interested in a streetable 956, I must admit)

My detail guy, who has driven and hot lapped a Mclaren F1 as well as most of all of the other exotics, received one of my hot laps from me a while back on a cool dense air morning. He hasn't been the same since. He was vibrating when we finished. He said the car hit much harder than the more linear F1!

The car is actually very drivable in traffic, even in Dallas 105 heat. Really. The air conditioner works better than any of the past F cars I have had the good fortune to own.

It's fairly easy to drive fast, however, it will really test you to drive it really fast. There is a point where you are driving it, for the most part, with your right foot only. I haven't seen the need for much left braking as you would expect in a turbo car. Keep the "r's" in the mid range or highter and there is plenty of torque to accomplish anything you want.

My overall experence has been excepitional!

Dino Micalizio (Ingenere)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   

I had an F40 for ~ 3 years....Great car! Could tool around like a Honda Accord...or blow away sport bikes! The feel was just so viceral. It's still the only car I ever regret going away!
Rick Doria (Zsnnf)
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Username: Zsnnf

Post Number: 10
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Dan,
The F40 is VERY drivable. Very streetable. Mine puts a grin on my face every time I get in it. It is a lot more user friendly and comfotable to drive than all the stories I heard before I bought mine. I drive mine at least once a week. Drive one. It WILL talk to you. If you like what it says, buy it, if not, drive another one. If you don't like that one either, maybe you need something else.
Something to consider...... If you buy a low mileage car that you plan on putting miles on you will lose a lot of resale value AND you need to be careful of the car having bad injectors or fuel pumps from fuel sitting in them and getting old. (Pumps and injectors are hard to find and VERY expensive)
If you buy a car with miles, over 15,000, you will need to service it, but the money you save in purchase price will more than out weight the service costs. Also, if you get a car that is not PERFECT, you don't have to FREAK OUT everytime you drive it and you will be able to enjoy it.
Try not to get upset when people ask you if it is a "Kit Car"

Boost is fun,
Rick
Tim G. (Tim)
Member
Username: Tim

Post Number: 277
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 2:40 pm:   

great all around car. I am currently replacing the clutch at 7000 miles. prematurely because of loading it in trailers. anyway other than that no problems. not really into modifying it except for chips, exhaust, wheels, anything else just seems kinda fruitless. sure you can get a little more performance here or there and make it a little better here or there but not substantially and you also get to a point where you are banging your head against the wall and then you realize you have way too much money in the car and should have just bought a couple other cars to compliment it instead. thats what I did with my viper, over $150k in it and sold it for a whopping $40k 2 weeks ago. in my humble opinion leave the F40 alone except for a few reasonable mods, Chris did brakes and a few other things because he tracks his but other than that our cars are very similar. cosmetic mods are a very personal thing to any car.

not sure I understand your question or if you even have one or if you were just up to late or to early. if your are thinking of purchasing and want to know if there are any detractants the answer is NO. I love the car and I know Chris loves his, so does Roland love his. they are great cars.

I like my F40 better than my Enzo. I like it better than my 360 challenge - if I could just get the challenge car registered that would be the REAL 360 stradale, it would make the 360CS cry. alot of cool cars out there and I will drive all of them at some point and probably own one of each of them at some point and I will probably sell all of them at some point but I do not see ever selling the F40 at this point. its hard to explain how you feel about an F40. its just a raw car. a true sports car, no puff and fluff. if your ever in the area look me up and check it out as well as other cars I have at the time.

hope this answers your question - ??
N'din (Abangdin)
Junior Member
Username: Abangdin

Post Number: 101
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 12:55 am:   

Go for it. Let your heart rule!!!
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member
Username: Artherd

Post Number: 1092
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 8:51 pm:   

Dan- JUST DO IT BUDDY!

I'll help you toss in LM turbos.

Best!
Ben.
Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member
Username: Dr_bob

Post Number: 75
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 8:38 pm:   

I think I'll catch some sleep too ;) 3:39 here...
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1673
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 8:37 pm:   

Dan this might be true :-)..its 3.37 am now !
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1616
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Me go to sleep? Andrew - you're just as bad as I am! :-)

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1670
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 5:25 am:   

And get an F40 this week end ! That will settle this ..oh and a Daytona ..and a 360 CS :-)

Voil� :-)
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1664
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 4:03 am:   

Go to sleep :-)
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1615
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 3:38 am:   

Chris, Tim, et alia:

Curious to hear your impressions of the car until now. How streetable has it been, what major headaches have you encountered, how fast before you modified it (and how far? - Chris, your list is way too long :-) ), etc.

Interested in hearing about long-term life with it. Not as a daily driver, but as a frequent-use car.

--Dan

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