| Author | Message | ||
| J R K (Kenyon)
Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 998 Registered: 10-2002 |
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| Najib Amanullah (Najib)
Member Username: Najib Post Number: 262 Registered: 4-2001 |
Adnaan Ignore Pric_s like Allan. They are not worth it. I have read several of his inflamatory posts and decided he is a loser and not worth wasting any breath on. He obviously does not have very much to do with his time but post inflamtory offensive remarks. In fact has anyone seen this Assh0les cars or is it just another load of sh_t from him. I dont normally resort to character bashing on this chat line but this guy is the limit. He hijacks perfectly good discussions and reduces it to his level of stupidity. Can't Rob put and end to the verbal diorreah from this Assh0le??? | ||
| Joe (Jts)
Junior Member Username: Jts Post Number: 154 Registered: 8-2003 |
That was complete bullshit Allan. Your issues and problems are clearly much worse than I had imagined. I don't know how old you are, what you do for a living or where you get your money, but I do know that you are a world-class ••••. Despite the fact that you are living in paradise, with a wife, at least two supercars and lots of cash, you spend all your time on countless car message boards, with your only goal being to stir •••• up. Use some of that money Allan and seek professional help. You are a very lonely, angry, and insecure little man. Get help before you harm yourself or worse, someone else. You Jackass. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7314 Registered: 8-2002 |
i'm with Craig Peterson - i've always like Lamborghinis; they've always made me stop in my tracks and stare... After so many months of putting up with Allan Keebler's (Keebler as in elf, elf as in inferiority complex) comments about how much better Lamborghinis are than EVERYTHING ELSE, i'm no longer jumping up and down, screaming DIABLO! DIABLO! DIABLO! One of the other Diablo owners here on the board emailed me a month or two ago and was extremely nice; easily discernable that not ALL Lamborghini owners are brown eye rose buds but that Allan IS... i haven't been on LamborghiniChat in months solely because of Keebler... i love Lamborghinis but i'll keep my enthusiasm to myself and share it only with individual people... The racist comment was, of course, uncalled for, disgusting and so typical of Allan... Allan, i know two really stupid people in this whole world and you're both of them. You have no place here - ••••, dude, you really have no place anywhere... You're an assh0le and your personality synesthizes* the sh!t that comes out of one... At 24 and nary a pot to piss in, it's so evident that i've gotten more out of life than all of your daddy's dollars could ever give you... You should be Trojan's poster child... If we never heard from you again, starting yesterday, it couldn't be too soon... At first thought, i felt bad for your parents as they have to deal with the fact that they've made such a social monstrosity, then i think further and realize that, somewhere, they did something that helped turn you out to be the steaming pile of ape sh!t that you are... i'm not sure if your daddy's testes were exposed to radiation when he was younger or if your mother's ovaries were transplanted into her from Chernobyl but somewhere, something •••••• you up, big time... i understand that, beneath all the glitz and glamour, you feel horrible about yourself; you probably hate to look in the mirror; you hate yourself and what you've become and constantly surround your exterior with cool things because you're so ugly on the inside... You should seriously consider professional help... i've tried to be a friend, to be someone you could talk to about your problems; a shoulder to lean and/or cry on... but to no avail. You're too screwed up inside and odds are, you'll be rotten, moldy, dried-up-dog-sh!t-infested assh0le for the rest of your life... That in itself is almost enough punishment for you; however, the rest of us are unDEServing of your punishment, so why don't make like a d!ck and beat it. i'm more disgusted about the racism than anything else but the other thing that pisses me off almost as much is that you completely •••••• up a perfectly good Enzo thread. *(i cannot vouch for the word "synesthizes" being a real word in the English language.  ) | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 165 Registered: 8-2003 |
If you are not a racist why would you make a racist comment like this? Nothing to LOL about in my opinion and certainly no place for that on this forum.  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1365 Registered: 6-2002 |
Yes I am a Racist!!!lol | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 160 Registered: 8-2003 |
Allan - what are you LOL about? The fact that you are a racist or the fact that you have been exposed as a proven troll on half a dozen chat boards?    | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1360 Registered: 6-2002 |
LOL! | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2003 |
Guys thanks for the support. The guy has issues. | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2003 |
Allan. You small minded dipstick. You think you know it all but in fact you know •••• all. Lambo this Lambo that. We dont care coz we are passionate about Ferrari's. Which part of this skipped those two cells of yours posing as a brain? As for the red dots? You make me laugh. You really do! You know so little about so little that know you've made an even bigger twat of yourself. You are obviously refering to Hindu women who wear red dots on their forhead as a symbol of marriage. So now you think you are so amazing that you can insult someones culture and religion! You are low. In fact you lower and dirtier than the •••• that comes out of a pigs ass. Im sure that •••• has more inteligence than you too. But what makes me laugh is you have as much in common hindu religion and culture as I do. Im not from there, and never have been. You see a foreign name and because its not John Smith you presume oh Indian. How do you know im not white skinned, blue eyed, and brown haired? Allan. Just do the world a favour and leave the earth alone. | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 157 Registered: 8-2003 |
banning him at least makes him re-register doesn't it? and rob could ban the name. He would have to start from post #1 and not like that. It is one thing to be a moron and another to be a racist. | ||
| Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member Username: Dr_bob Post Number: 80 Registered: 4-2003 |
IGNORE HIM! when he gets banned, he opens a new account. IP-ban won't work, cause IP addresses can be changed. Think agagin. Just ignore him | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 156 Registered: 8-2003 |
yep - it was low. Allan is a moron, troll and a racist. There was no need for the "dot in the forehead comment." That should get Allan banned here. It is one thing to be a moron and quite another to be a racist. I can predict the "I was only joking" response. I do not accept that as an excuse for him to hide behind. roblay - what are the rules governing these types of racist comments? | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 155 Registered: 8-2003 |
Adnaan - don't waste your time on Allan. He is a persona non grata on over half a dozen boards including Viper chat, NSX chat, Supra chat, Ferrari chat, etc. Here is a link that demonstrates the scope of his trolling. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/331267.html?1066509667 He pissed everyone off is the viper forum (and many others) by ranting about the lambo and dissing the viper. As one example in the following thread, people were asking him why does he post on the lambo forum. In his words below .. . "it [the lambo forum] would probably be more fun if it were 15 year old kids on it." No doubt he would prefer that - he likes to impress 15 year old kids and the lambo board members were all tired of his "look at me" story. He is a moron with nothing better to do. His wife obviously figured that out 18 months ago and since that time he has posted over 5,000 messages on non lambo car chat boards - mainly bashing other cars and promoting the lambo. Here is his reasoning for not posting on the lambo board. Speaks for itself.  | ||
| Warren Balla (West662)
Junior Member Username: West662 Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2003 |
that was low. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1357 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ok, let me see if i can paint a little red dot on his forehead. | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2003 |
You've never seen me have you Allan. Even someone who was blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid could not mistake that for me. I guess we have to find a new catagory for you then.. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1355 Registered: 6-2002 |
But, Adnan, thats you! Dont you recognize yourself? | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2003 |
Allan. Nice self portrait! You look as stupid as you act! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1354 Registered: 6-2002 |
Coming from a guy who WANTS a Mondial, i'll take that as a compliment.  | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 72 Registered: 4-2003 |
Guys dont get me wrong. I like the F1, but I love the Enzo. But a few points. The looks are not comparable. The F1 is ten years old, and ten years ago the Enzo would have looked like a martian space ship. Today the F1 is starting to date, and the Enzo looks awesome. Someone made a comment that the top end speed can never be used. True. So on that basis why even bother producing 200+ mph cars? They are made because they can me made, and not because they can be driven at that speed. In reality most will sit in a garage for 99% of the time. And I know top speed is not everything. But my point is this. When people compare the performance of the two cars two key things they look at is 0-60 and top speed. Im just saying that with 10 years of advancement in technology, we're still in the same place. Granted the extra weight for safety. Plus the superior handling+braking of the enzo etc. But still we should have moved on. Also I know that Ferrari said that they never wanted to get into a speed race. But in my opinion they should have. If I was going to spend �600K on a car, I would want to know it was the best in every sense of the word. If the Ferrari formula 1 team decided top speed was not important where would they be? Why should their road cars be any different? Before I get bashed again I LOVE THE ENZO!!!! Oh and Allan. Sorry mate but you're a twat. | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 529 Registered: 9-2002 |
If you want fast, see if you can buy the Thrust SSC :  If you want the fastest around a corner, get an Enzo. The F1 is handy with the driver seat (most logical place to be), but why add the 2 seats ? Doesn't seem to be very fast to me (2 passengers). Bart | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7295 Registered: 8-2002 |
Warren, that's a perfect quote for this thread...! Ben, if the opportunity should ever present itself, i will certainly take it... i've only dreamed of racing around a race track my entire life... | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1107 Registered: 6-2002 |
DES- once I get a Challenge Car, and post some actual decent times, I will be worthy of mention with the likes of others you've posted There are probally TONS of us 'weekend fun seekers' who occationally track their street car. In anything decently performing, it's the most fun you can have in a car with your clothes on! If you ever get the chance, JUMP on it! Best! Ben. | ||
| Warren Balla (West662)
Junior Member Username: West662 Post Number: 72 Registered: 8-2003 |
Take it away Mr. Enzo Ferrari. 'It's not about how fast my cars go, rather how good they perform at given speeds. Anyone can build a fast car.' | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7293 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ben - it was only by mistake that i forgot to mention your name as one who tracks his car - i couldn't remember everyone so i just listed a few... Thanks for answering, your response just validates what i'm trying to say... i'm glad you see that the whole top speed thing isn't what it's all about... | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1102 Registered: 6-2002 |
DES- I've only seen about 110 or so on Sears Point's one 'straightaway' (aka, Turn 10! :D) Top speed is for loser magazine junkies, this car is all about the 100mph sweepers, loose! Best! Ben. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7288 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hey, Drippleslurp, glad you like my variation on your new name... If i can back a Ryder truck down a twisty driveway, at night, using mirrors only, without a spotter, then anyone else can go backwards in a Lamborghini... If i can drive the last half a mile home in my Sentra, at night, making stop sign stops, using my blinker, etcetera without a spotter, then anyone else can go backwards in a Lamborghini... Ok, ok, i'm done tooting my own horn... Getting back to the point of the thread, the Enzo and the McLaren F1... i have to agree with Jay Ross agreeing with me ( ), the Enzo, aesthetically, is untouchable - in my own, very humble opinion, of course... But beyond looks, it's still all that and a bag of chips... Breaks that would wrinkle pavement, acceleration that could give Joan Rivers the face lift of her life and performance that puts 99.9% of all the other top dogs out there in it's ridiculously expensive and overpriced Ferrari rearview mirror... If you were lucky enough to get on the list to buy an Enzo, you got a car whose performance specs are nearly mirrored to those of the Veyron - for half the price...! Veyron: 0-60: 2.9 Enzo: 0-60: 3.3 Veyron: 0-100: 6.0 Enzo: 0-100: 6.6 Top speed on an Enzo is what, 240...? Top speed on the Veyron is a proposed 252... The only people who have the sac and skill to care about the fractions of a second and top speeds that high are F1 pros... i have a question for some of the track people on this board: how many of you have maxed out your track car...? Top speed... Anyone...? Rob, in the 355 Challenge...? What's top speed on that bad boy, 180...? 185...? Hubert, you're an exceptional driver, have you ever maxed out your car...? Jon Kofod...? Dave MarshmaranelloMan...? Steve Solomon...? Matt Karson Squidracer...? If so, how often have you done it...? i'm not trying to be a prick here, but through answers to those questions, i'm hoping to paint a picture of just how silly the top speed war is... 10 years older or not, McLaren can have the top speed record... Hell, they could give me the car for free, to drive to work everyday, with guaranteed-for-life free service and maintenance... ••••, they could even throw in a healthy gas card... That's all well and good, but you know what...? The car would still have stickered Scuderia badges on the fenders, 'cause i'd still be lusting after an Enzo... | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 2264 Registered: 12-2002 |
You know Allan, not that I agree with yours posts...but that last one about backing up and hitting the supra was hilarious!! See, I dont take it personally | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1096 Registered: 6-2002 |
I'm pretty sure the enzo tachs out in 6th gear, it could go faster, but it'd get there slower. I'll take a car that's devistating from 30-170 instead of a top-speed monster. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Intermediate Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 1030 Registered: 2-2003 |
"I back it up just fine! WHOOPS! I hit a SUPRA!!!!!!!!!!!!" Hahaha!! That pic is going to be around for a while! I've seen a bunch of people back up their Lambo's, faster than any other car I've seen for that matter, with no spotter. New guys welcome drive, Symbolic day at the races, on the street, and in a parking lot. Its down to the driver. | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
Junior Member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 86 Registered: 2-2003 |
I'm not surprised Allan has no problem backing up. If his eyes are close to his brain and his brain is in his a$$ he should see rearward just fine all the time | ||
| Joe (Jts)
Junior Member Username: Jts Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2003 |
My God David - you have got a totally bling blong word up sheeet yo phat Murcie there! You rolling on 24"s? (sorry I'm not up on my hip hop slang) | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2837 Registered: 10-2002 |
Art The Murcie can be backed up without a spotter. I've done it. The rearward view isn't bad at all. The car is much more civilized than you'd imagine. I'd have no problem driving it every day. (Except for lack of interior storage space) I've also driven an Enzo and as special as that car is I wouldn't drive it every day. To me it's a Sunday/Track car. It's simply too low with too much front overhang. I agree with you on top speed. Downforce is much more important. Even at LeMans these days the cars top out at 180 or so with the kinks. Now downforce is something you can never have too much of. Esp. on the street. | ||
| Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
Junior Member Username: Brisalig Post Number: 196 Registered: 8-2002 |
wow guys...are we really gonna battle eachother by playing with our 1/18th cars?? What has this come too? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1340 Registered: 6-2002 |
I back it up just fine! WHOOPS! I hit a SUPRA!!!!!!!!!!!!  | ||
| David R. (Rodsky)
Member Username: Rodsky Post Number: 263 Registered: 3-2003 |
 You have no problem backing this one up? Aren't you going to hit those wheels on the counter directly behind it? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1336 Registered: 6-2002 |
Art, i back my Lambo up without a spotter. | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 151 Registered: 8-2003 |
That said, of the three, I'd take the Enzo; chipping in a few $k more to get it in either azzuro CA or grigrio.  (The museum at Maranello) | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2003 |
If you're dissatisfied you could: a) buy a 240 mph Bugatti Veyron b) buy an Enzo and pay Koenig $400k to slap a twin turbo on it and perhaps adjust the trim to get a higher top speed. | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 284 Registered: 8-2001 |
So far all that's been discussed is the performance of the Enzo and F1. Not to minimize the performance of said cars, as it's the primary emphasis of the package.... But how about the looks of the Enzo vs. the F1. Once again, I'm with DES... I'd take one Enzo to TWO F1s! To me, the Enzo just also happens to be an aesthetic masterpiece. The ride I had in the Enzo on the German Autobahn a few weeks ago only solidified my deep appreciation for this incredibly engineered automobile! | ||
| Nibblesworth (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 762 Registered: 11-2002 |
Scribblesworth - LOL. Art - I agree! Egads! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 7284 Registered: 8-2002 |
Scribblesworth has a point - didn't i read somewhere that Ferrari COULD HAVE beaten the top speed record if they wanted but decided to tone it down and put more effort into other things...? i don't know why this debate continues - ••••, it's going on in like 3 or 4 different threads, simultaneously...! i loved the F1 when it came out... i still do... i saw one in the flesh for the first time back at WWOC's tech session a few months ago... Beautiful car... but i'd take an Enzo over TWO F1s... Even if i had an Enzo right now - on a track, no less - i'm not skilled enough to max it out so it doesn't make much of a difference to me... Top speed has never been a main concern for me... It shouldn't be for a majority of the people who buy these cars 'cause most of 'em will never see the needle buried, anyway... | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2745 Registered: 6-2001 |
We are talking about the top of the exotics. The Enzo is Ferrari's flagship so to speak. The difference between a top speed of 200 and 223 is something that no, and I mean no owner will ever be able to see, unless they own a 5 mile oval. What is important is the handling, the style, the acceleration, and the useability of the car. In all respects the Enzo beats everything on the market. The only competitors to the Enzo have outstanding flaws making them losers in that market. Need I point out that the Lambo cannot be backed up without a spotter? Art | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 2251 Registered: 12-2002 |
Andrew is right...Didnt Ferrari specifically say they didnt want to get caught up in the Horse Power and Top Speed wars? The Enzo wasn't built to kick the F1's ass... Besides, if all cars were made to go as fast as possible, how fast could we ever get? You cant drive 250mph on the freeway. Cars aren't going to get much faster than they are now for a long time. This post reminds me of another post I read on another non-car-related forum a while back...the guy wrote "What was Ferrari thinking with the 308? Its so slow and the Enzo is so much faster!" Read carefully and you might be able to pick up the ignorance in that | ||
| Jason (Jason)
Junior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2001 |
Well, i've never seen Nurburgring or Hockenheim lap times for either car so I can't comment there. As far as acceleration figures, this is what's in Road & Track: McLaren F1: 0-60= 3.4s 0-100= 7.7s 0-� mile= 11.6 @ 125.0 mph Enzo: 0-60= 3.3s 0-100= 6.6s 0-� mile= 11.1 @ 133.0 mph | ||
| Nibblesworth (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 754 Registered: 11-2002 |
The F40 detroned the 959 by 3mph or something WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. The Enzo has topped the F40 by 18mph WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. The McLaren made 231mph by TRYING AS HARD AS THEY COULD TO BE #1 FASTEST CAR. Now imgaine, just image, how scary-fast the Enzo would be if Ferrari decided to go for the top speed in the world. The only thing that top speed gives you is bragging rights. And Ferrari has absoletely no reason to brag. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 3088 Registered: 9-2001 |
Don't forget the McLaren seats 3 which makes it a more practical exotic than the Enzo. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1672 Registered: 10-2001 |
Because it was never Ferrari intention the beat the F1's top speed. To do that in today's world would be completly immature. Just look at how speeding automobilists are treated in Europe. Worse than car thieves... So if Ferrari had come up with a 400 KMH car, the non auto press would have shot it in flames . The Purpose of the Enzo is to be as close as an F1 car to the road and still be user friendly. It is . Job done. | ||
| Bill Randazzo (Scuderia47)
New member Username: Scuderia47 Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2003 |
adnaan, ferrari claims that they didnt want to start the type of top speed war that this discussion is turning into, ahha. they claim the enzo could go 250+ with proper gearing and whatnot....but who cares...i dont! | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2003 |
Haha! very funny. I know its not everything. Point to point the F1 is slower. But im surprised that with ten years of advancement in technology the record set by Maclaren still stands. It surprises me thats all. | ||
| Bill Randazzo (Scuderia47)
New member Username: Scuderia47 Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2003 |
adnaan, in a straight line the enzo is not that much slower than the mclaren. (disregarding the 10 mph top end difference, when would you use that type of speed anyway?) The street mclaren can go 230, they achieved 241 by removing the rev limiter. anyway, what still has to be seen is the performance comparision of both these cars on the track. the enzo shows better braking and higher lateral Gs. but, the enzo is heavier than the mclaren because today, there are more stingent safty standards, so there is extra reinforcement in the enzo that adds weight (i dont know the exact reasons why this adds more weight, but this was published way back when the car was being released). then, it all comes down to personal preference. im sure these cars have totally different personalities, (let alone the fact that u can only have an F1 gearbox in the enzo) so its all about how you feel in the car. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 1994 Registered: 7-2002 |
How fast is fast enough? why do we still like 308's if all we want is faster? I personally don't like McLarens at all and the fact that people pay $1MM for them is nuts. They look like kit cars with corvette taillights and that silly middle seat for street driving. I can strap a rocket engine on a red wagon and call it the fastest super car alive but who would care? | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1671 Registered: 10-2001 |
LOL. So only the top speed matters ? are you a teenager ? Just put the Enzo and the F1 around a track and then we'll talk ! | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2003 |
Love to! Sadly my local Budget rent a car dont have one! | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 282 Registered: 8-2001 |
"Miss the point"???!!! Are you insane? Go take a ride in an Enzo and an F1, and then talk. | ||
| Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
Junior Member Username: Adnaan Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2003 |
I love the enzo. One problem. The Maclaren F1 is still the fastest car in the world. How is it possible that the best racing team for the past five years can produce its best road car, that is still outperformed by a car built 10 years ago? It should have been faster and quicker than the F1. But its not. To make things worse the F1 does this with the weight of an extra seat, and has a good size luggage capacity. As much as I love Ferrari and their latest two cars (Enzo and 612), are these early signs that Ferrari road cars are starting to miss the point? |