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Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Post Number: 305
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   

There's a guy named Bob in Texas who currently has an ad in Hemmings Motor News to sell his yet-to-be-built Stradale for $30k over sticker.
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:50 pm:   

hi will,

i have a friend in orlando who ordered a stradale almost identical to yours. the only difference is that his dashboard will be completely black. i believe yours will be black on top and red on the bottom. his order was one of the first from the USA (back in july) so he should be getting delivery soon. i may fly back to orlando so i can get a ride and hear how it sounds for myself :-) my order just went in so it will be mid-february before mine arrives.
rick ramage (720)
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Post Number: 112
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   

hi brian (the brian from zurich not the USA brian :-),

i sent you an email yesterday. did you get it?
Brian (Bjc138)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 1:21 pm:   

After seeing the Rosso Scuderia with the stripe at the challenge finals I changed my order to include the factory stripe!
The price is over the top but my (male) justification is that the Rosso Scuderia paint job used to be a $10k extra and it's 'free' for the Stradale!

I too, dislike the fire extinguisher placement so will have my garage fit one when the car arrives.

The only other options that I'm taking are the rollbar and the charger facility.

I may get to drive a black Stradale in early November. If it comes off then I'll post my first impressions. In the meantime I, like the rest of you, will have to wait patiently for my car to arrive (delivery date of mid-to-late December...).
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:58 am:   

Brian: entirely fair (and logical) points.

--Dan
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 9:31 am:   

Rick, looking forward to seeing your photos, bet it was a great trip. Thanks for the kind comments about my 575, the interior Daytonas have black inserts but no piping - sort of wish I had the piping. Also have the carbon fiber details. Love the power of this car.

My Stradale spec is as follows, TDF exterior, red calipers, shields (standard I guess), black and red interior identical to that of the red show car in the factory brochure (which includes stitching in the dash), fire extinguisher, no radio, charger.

My order contract did not state a price, just "MSRP." MSRP is an Italian acronym for "don't worry, be happy." You've got to admire a business that can persuade its customers to buy without knowing the price!

Great to read about the different color combos that have been ordered, all sound great. I'll bet a black exterior car would look fantastic, too.
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 4:05 am:   

> Can't they mount that right in front of the seat, rotated 90 degrees from its
> current position in the picture? That would be far less obtrusive.

Not true. Consider that you need to be able to slide that seat forward and back... in particular, far forward for use of the shelf behind. Given that, the extinguisher would need to either be mounted to the chair itself (not structurally too workable), or would need to be far enough forward that it does not interfere with seat sliding full forward. But in that case, when the seat is full back, the extinguisher would be very much in the middle of the leg space and incredibly awkward.

Further, and more importantly, consider in a crash resulting in fire, you really don't want to have to be wading under the passengers legs trying to unfasten and pull out the extinguisher. As mounted, the passengers legs will tend to stay to the opposite side of the extinguisher, and thus quite out of the way.

Where I'd prefer they mounted it is dead center... on top of the "hump", in front of the center console. The only reason not to, to my knowledge, is that it may leave inadequate space for the dangling radio, if you get that option. But even then, I'd rather see the extinguisher down below only in the case where you have the radio.

Dead center, the extinguisher would be much easier for the driver to reach in an emergency AND would not at all interfere with the passengers leg space. Further, it would look more symmetric and give that space in front of the console purpose.

In fact, I am hoping that is what they do. I've only seen a car with the radio... thus, I don't know where they put the extinguisher in a non-radio car. Does anyone know?

If not, then I will likely have a bracket built designed to mount to the same spot, but that gives a matching set of mount points dead center to which I can mount the existing mount. Uhhhh... did that make sense?
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:59 am:   

Rick,

Can't they mount that right in front of the seat, rotated 90 degrees from its current position in the picture? That would be far less obtrusive.

--Dan
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   

it's just a hand held unit...but they wrap some material around it and mount it and nick you for about $700
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Norman (Storminnormin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   

Is the fire extinguisher a built in unit or a hand held?
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 9:14 pm:   

thanks brian. that's close enough. i also ordered the fire extinguisher option (must be one of those solid gold units because they want about $700 for it) and a battery charger. at one time recently i saw a list of stradale options and their prices...but i can't remember where i saw it?
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 9:02 pm:   

I was told $193,xxx base... sorry, I didn't pay attention to the xxx, something like 294.
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 8:50 pm:   

hi jay,

i just ordered my stradale yesterday and i still do not know for sure how much it is going to cost. i've been told for months by the dealer that ferrari has not yet formally set the price, but they estimate the price to be about $195K. does anybody know if ferrari has set the price yet?
Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
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Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 8:27 pm:   

Anyone care to guess the Stradale's current resale value? It's gotta be soon that somebody has one advertised in Autoweek. Should be interesting to see...
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   

hi ron,

swiss air lost half my luggage...but they found it and claim they will deliver it to my house thursday morning. i hope so because the lost bag contained my camera and all the pics i took in italy :-) i'll post some pics as soon as my camera shows up. i'll call you later this week. be nice to get together for dinner one evening soon :-)

btw, i met up with another f-chatter (brian from zurich) in florence for the 360 challenge finals at mugello. i saw that brian posted a lot of good pics at www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/337254.html?1066856358
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 4:21 pm:   

hi will,

i gather you have ordered a TDF blue stradale with red/black interior? can you give me a description of the car you ordered?

i have a friend in florida who ordered this color combination in july (his was one of the first orders placed from the US). he should get his car soon. he wrestled with this choice of colors for weeks before he decided to go with it. i bet it will look fantastic!

btw, your 575M looks spectacular :-) what color interior does it have? any piping or inserts?
Byron (Bmyth)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 4:21 pm:   

Rick,
Welcome back and congratulations on placing the order! Man... so many people placing orders... Will, Brian, Rick... this is awesome! :-)

So you went with yellow and not black, eh? Always the first love!!
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 4:12 pm:   

hi brian,

my dealer placed my stradale order yesterday :-) they estimate about 90 days for the fabrication to be complete and another 30 days for shipping. i should have it by mid-february.

here's exactly how i ordered my car:

yellow paint (no stripe)

ALL black alcantara dashboard (upper and lower portions)

black stitching

black alcantara seats with yellow trim (size: extra large)

all black steering wheel with "YELLOW" hash mark

challenge grill front and back
scuderia shields
rubber floor mats
battery charger
fire extinguisher
brake calipers (black)
NO radio

btw, the visor on the passenger side has a vanity mirror so my wife will be happy :-)

also, i looked for your stradale while i was inside the factory. i did not see any titanium stradales at all. one thing interesting was the tour guide told us that it takes 35 days to completely build a 360 and of that period the car is only on the assembly line for 4-5 days. i was surprised to hear this because i've always been told that it takes about 90 days, and i just assumed that most of that time the car would be on the assembly line.
Michael Palilonis (Mpalilonis)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 4:06 pm:   

Thanks Ron!

Hey has anyone thought of doing a white interior. I think it would look good with the TDF Blue, and perhaps blue inserts in the seats.


~Mike
Ron (Easy_rider)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   

Mike, Tour de France.

Rick, welcome back. When you feel up to it I would be interested in a thread about your trip and experiences at the factory.
Michael Palilonis (Mpalilonis)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 3:54 pm:   

Hey guys I'm kind of new on the 360 stuff. What does TDF stand for. By reading the thread I can see it is a blue color. But I am still unsure of what it stands for. Thanks.

~Mike
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 3:34 pm:   

Rick, thanks for that info! My dealer wasn't aware of any other Alcantara colors. Black+yellow would be AWESOME looking... almost makes me wish my order wasn't already in. [not really] Rick, are you going to do black+yellow or yellow+black?

Andrew, to my knowlege their is no option to change the color of the gauge. I've been wrong before though! (even in this thread) :-)
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 3:14 pm:   

Will , cant wait to see pics of your car it will look amazing !! Cant go wrong with TDF blue !

Rick , you must have had an amzing trip !!


Anyone know about the gauges ? Can you have them in another color than yellow ?
rick ramage (720)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   

hi brian,

just got back from visiting the ferrari factory and watching the 360 challenge finals at mugello. i noticed in this thread that there is some confusion about the alcantara interior. when i was at the factory i spent some time with marco burnelli (regional sales manager) and he showed me a sample book of alcantara fabric colors. they have lots of colors you can choose from including red, black, yellow and gray. there were other colors in the sample book, but i'm punchy from jet lag and cannot recall the others :*) so you are NOT limited to red and black alcantara. they will make them from any of the colors they have (if your dealer does not know what colors are available tell him to contact marco brunelli at the factory in maranello because he was able to access the sample book). if marco was able to get a hold of the sample book then i'm sure the dealers can get the same book...if you push them. ciao.
thomas daniels (Castex)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   

I believe Alcantara to be synthetic suede. I do know it's lovely to touch, and comparatively hard-wearing.
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:54 am:   

Dean, do you have any other photos of the TDF car? Do you know whether the red interior is the same as the red car in the factory Stradale brochure? Could you e-mail the posted photo to me, [email protected]

Can you tell I ordered this combo?
Dean (Deanger)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:22 am:   

TDF on the Stradale is sweet. Stealthy, and yet clearly a##-kicking!Upload
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:20 pm:   


quote:

Yes, if you're willing to pay enough, Ferrari will do any color...to do your Orange Stradale with Pink Seats




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David Karaduman (Ferrariking)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   

lol it should be.. but heres something to consider...
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Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:38 pm:   

David, your nickname should be orangeman or some such! :-)

Yes, if you're willing to pay enough, Ferrari will do any color... almost... they won't do anything they consider exceptionally ugly. For example, to get them to do your Orange Stradale with Pink Seats, I suspect you'd have to pay them twice the price of an Enzo... and even then they'd probably tell you they can't get that color leather this month (every month until you change your mind). :-)
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   

I agree with the Stradale calling for something less conservative... but you need to consider the whole package, not just exterior color. Black is fairly conservative, for example. But the stripe looks great with black... and couple that with the far from conservative red+black alcantara interior, and you have quite a statement.

OTOH, Rossa Corsa is a bold exterior color, but that with tan leather interior and no other accents would be borderline conservative IMO. I think maybe a bit of a let down for a Stradale.

Yellow on black is very sporty... but I think I'd have to do yellow stitching or piping in the Stradale. Further, I might be tempted to go with a variation on "the stripe". I don't think the fat white stripe would look great on yellow... but red and green stripes would set off of yellow great... it would really tie in the shields.

On that note, I'm not fond of the factory stripe on most colors... its great on black and okay (IMO) on red... but I think variations could be really sweet on other colors. For example, on a dark blue, especially with a yellow interior (as suggested), I think I might go with the stripe but yellow instead of white; or with tan interior, tan instead of white. That would give you classy, rich colors... but applied in a very sport way. (Hey, where's the photoshop guy? :-) )

OTOH, I think variation in the stripe itself would be good... it'll get boring if everyone does the stripe the same way. Maybe a fat red and fat green stripe.

Personally, I am NOT doing the factory stripe... but I will be doing some kind of striping... but I'm still working out exactly what that'll be. I'll let you know when I figure it out! :-) There's just sooo many choices!
David Karaduman (Ferrariking)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:30 pm:   

Does Ferrari offer custom colours? like if you wanted green, purple or orange.. would they do it for you.. especially if your getting a stradale?

cos if you can.. i would recomend orange :p
Albert Lim (Albertl)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:16 pm:   

It's got to be Rosso Scuderia...;-)
Michael Palilonis (Mpalilonis)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 8:54 pm:   

Albert,

Of the red colors which one have you decided on. Oh yeah I like the color of your 360 F1 Modena, its a wonderful color blue. Almost looks like Lake Tahoe blue.

~Mike
Albert Lim (Albertl)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 8:46 pm:   

The more I look at the stripes, the more I like it. My 360 is already a TDF so I'll order mine red on red. Now if I can just make up my mind on the stripes...
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:41 pm:   

John B, I loved the TDF + tan combination in the blue brochure car. Will your tan be darker? Also, both of the brochure cars had black calipers and looked great. I'm still a little unsure about the red calipers. We'll have to swap photos when the cars finally arrive.

Andrew, I considered TDF + the alcantara interior but with YELLOW (instead of red) seats, dash & steering wheel top - thought the yellow shields might look great with this combo, hadn't thought about calipers. Black on yellow also might be fantastic. Very hard choice to make.

Guess I see the Stradale as wanting a touch of color - funny, I'd spec a non-Stradale Modena quite differently.
John B (John_b)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:57 pm:   

Nice choice Will, I'm going with:
TDF Blue
Dark tan (Cuoio?) Leather
No stripe
Black calipers
Radio
Fire Extinguisher
Large seats
I dont have a build date yet

Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:51 pm:   

-Red on Red
-TDF blue on Tobacco leather or Tan with yellow calipers..
- Yellow on Black
robert di meglio (Robdimeglio)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:39 pm:   

Brian did you order yours in Titanium? When I suggested this color to my sales guy (to replace my titanium modena), he thought that color might be too conservative for the Stradale. I'm not sure I agree. I'm still awaiting my slot to order as of now.
Anyone with opinions on color?
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:36 pm:   

Can you have the gauges in red ?

Also i saw a stradale with the upper dash in black Alacantara and the lower dash in red leather ...
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   

Yes, you can get the steering wheel solid colored (single colored).
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:08 am:   

Oh, I forgot the rubber carpets!
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:06 am:   

Andrew, they apparently would consider doing a different two tone interior in alcantara, such as black/yellow, so I don't see why they couldn't do an all black steering wheel. Just my 2 cents, though. When you select the racing seats, you automatically get the seats, lower dash & steering wheel top in red - again, unless they'd consider a substitute color.

I am going to try to order the factory roll bar and factory harnesses (correct for the car) and have them dealer installed.

The factory Stradale brochure has some small interior shots that show the dash stitching.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:42 am:   

thks Brian for the info , do you know if you can get the steering in one color only and not with the upper part in red leather ?
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 8:36 am:   

> Stiching on the racing seats ?

The most prominent of the stitching is on the dash... there is stitching on the seats of course, but I don't remember how prominent that is... need to pull up some pics.

> So you can order the rollbar and have it installed after delivery ?
> or are you guys talking of an aftermarket roll bar ?

I am definitely going to be looking into getting the Ferrari rollbar and install it after delivery. But I want to get more details... at the moment, those seem hard to come by.

> Whats the drawback of Suede seats ?

First, its alcantara. Not sure the relationship of that to suede other than "it resembles suede".

Lacks the rich look of leather.
Only comes in red and black.
Its durability is not proven yet... but no reason to believe it will be worse than the leather.

FWIW, I am ordering Alcantara.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 8:08 am:   

Stiching on the racing seats ?

So you can order the rollbar and have it installed after delivery ? or are you guys talking of an aftermarket roll bar ?

Whats the drawback of Suede seats ?
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:20 am:   

Brian, thanks. Leaning towards ext TDF blue, interior black and red as on the red show car, especially if it saves weight v the leather; no stripe; red calipers; no radio/cd; yes fire extinguisher; yes charger; buy the bar & harnesses if possible for later installation; large seats for my broad US rump?
John B (John_b)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:11 pm:   

Thanks Brian
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:11 pm:   

you can put it in afterwards, will. just for some stupid reason you can't order it from the factory that way. as we say here in boston... "wicked stupid".

but i could be wrong about its non-availability.

doody.
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:05 pm:   

Caliper Color (Black, Red, Aluminum)
Exterior Color (any)
Racing Stripe (yes or no)
Racing Seat Size (Small, Med, Large, or Extra Large)
Interior Material (Leather or Alcantara)
Interior Color (Alcantara: Black or Red or Both; Leather: any)
Stitching Color (any)
Steering Wheel Color (any)
Dash Color (Alcantara: Black; Leather: any)
Headliner (standard or leather)
Fire Extinguisher (yes or no)
Battery Charger (yes or no)
Stereo (yes/no; if yes, comes with subwoofer between seats)
CD Changer (only if you get Stereo, obviously)

Not options:
Shields (standard, not removable)
Racing harnesses (not DOT approved)
Rollbar (not DOT approved)
Lexan windows (to my knowledge, this is not available in US)
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 9:58 pm:   

"full racing harness will NOT be an available US option"

I'm not sure why I'm safer without a roll bar and harnesses, but "Thanks, DOT!"
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 8:50 pm:   

my understanding is that the full racing harness will NOT be an available US option nor will the plexiglass windows.

doody.
John B (John_b)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 7:59 pm:   

Here's what I know so far.
I havent seen the build sheet yet but I'll be putting in an order tomorrow
stripe ($5k extra) or no stripe
Plexiglass fixed or glass roll up windows
Leather seats or sueade
Fire extinguisher
Optional radio

I'm not sure of these:
4 or 6 point racing harneses
No shield option ( I think they come std w/ shields)
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 7:50 pm:   

Ordering tomorrow, thought I'd try one last time. Has anyone seen a list of US available options? Any final recommendations? I am aware that the roll bar is not an official US option. Thanks, Will

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