| Author | Message | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 310 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jim Avery: If it's Ferrari ACTION that you seek, then you should check this out: http://www.europeanferrarirental.com/cn10242003.htm This DVD has: In car video of Enzo at 160mph on Autobahn In car video of 575M at 190mph on Autobahn In car video of 360 at 180 mph on Autobahn Plus it also has some sweet footage of the Stradale, Maserati Trofeo, Enzo, and California 250 GT Spyder California at Fiorano! Gotta love it. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1559 Registered: 6-2002 |
Robi, if you want i can send you some stuff. | ||
| rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
Member Username: Robiferretti Post Number: 431 Registered: 4-2002 |
if anyone is interested I am about 65% done with editing my DVD which is filled with exotics and aggressive driving. If anyone has video they want to send me uncompressed digital, digital 8 tapes, or moni-dv, you can do so in the next few weeks and i can edit you in if the footage is usable. I dont need anymore video i have enough for 3 hours of edited material, but if anyone wants in i can see if i can get your clip in there somewhere | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 652 Registered: 4-2001 |
That should read expense | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 650 Registered: 4-2001 |
Just an FYI, "The Ferrari Fanatic" documentary I was going to produce, and have Tom Selleck do narration on, took me months of my own time to just cover the logistics... and in the end was going to cost me $40k out of pocket expence just to shoot the treatment. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 613 Registered: 3-2002 |
> Brian, what you have described is more like a video encyclopedia... > personally, I wouldn't bother to watch anything that is a documentary or encyclopedia > type project...there is enoufh of that on Speed Channel...I would > want to buy video of FERRARI {ACTION}! Hmmm... did not mean to make it sound like an encyclopedic documentary... though I did say "organize" and "document". What I meant was more the kind of personal-love-of-Ferrari stuff that we come to this site for, but done with video aid... we often do that in threads now with pics... less often with video... The main difference would be to create an organization, perhaps a bit encyclopedia-like, to make it easy to find those... rather than just letting them be posted in threads that you have to do searches through to find anything. We could probably accomplish the same by adding a notion of keywords to each thread... any thread with a video gets a "VIDEO" keyword, and then you can add additional keywords for what appears in the video "F40", "Stradale", "Fchatter Comparison", "Tubi exhaust", "Laguna Seca"... then a special "Video Search" feature that lets you find threads that have what you're looking for. Just thinking out loud... any of these things are going to take some work from somebody... so, somebody needs to find a particular concept that really motivates them who is also willing to do the work to make it happen. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1800 Registered: 9-2002 |
Andrew, I'll hire a camera-man, you've got to drive the twin!  --Dan | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1819 Registered: 10-2001 |
Dan, i have a camera..See you in April then | ||
| Crawford White (Crawford)
Junior Member Username: Crawford Post Number: 219 Registered: 3-2003 |
I did this a couple of weeks ago. Sort of a hodgepodge of video I had lying around... http://home.comcast.net/~crawfordwhite/In-Motion.wmv | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 646 Registered: 4-2001 |
Just for the record, you chaps that are talking about "filming" an event.... Film is a different critter than video, and is Very Expensive to shoot. Ben is spot on about money... It will take a large pocket full to do a "Professional Quality" video. I know, I am in the business. If you just want to run and gun, and throw something together that looks like any hand held home video, then by all means have at it. But a professional quality product starts with a lot of preparation. From scripting, to obtaining releases, to blocking shots, lighting, audio, camera selection, travel costs, the list goes on and on... I would be more than willing to be the DP on this project, but all the ducks would have to be in a row first. | ||
| thomas daniels (Castex)
Junior Member Username: Castex Post Number: 118 Registered: 6-2003 |
I thought Brian's ideas were ace - haven't seen the Speed Channel, but this would surely be very different in tone and interest! | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 434 Registered: 6-2003 |
Brian, what you have described is more like a video encyclopedia...personally, I wouldn't bother to watch anything that is a documentary or encyclopedia type project...there is enoufh of that on Speed Channel...I would want to buy video of FERRARI {ACTION}! More about Rendezvous...it was made with the 9 min of leftover tape the director had after another shoot...he drove the car himself and added a soundtrack...it was made in one take. That is the beauty of it. It cannot be staged. | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 307 Registered: 8-2001 |
I've watched Rendezvous a few times and am fully convinced the audio is not real. At some points you see moist (i.e. from the morning dew) pavement, and various different uneven brick surfaces, yet at every turn, the car makes EXACTLY the same tire screaching noise on every different surface! Also, the camera was mounted extremely low, and close to the pavement, thus creating the illusion of speed that was higher than it really was. Don't get me wrong -- I LOVE Rendezvous. It is masterful. But in my personal opinion, not 100% authentic as it is purported to be. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 612 Registered: 3-2002 |
To the point of many (that producing a professional video is non-trivial), and to the observation of how much enjoyment has been expressed at some relatively low-quality video that's been posted here... I say, instead of trying to produce a full-length movie, let's focus on building a library of videos that: 1) truly illustrate the joy of Ferrari ownership 2) provide useful video footage for Ferrari owners (such as, what different exhausts look and sound like) 3) document the various tracks that we could drive (in-car footage of a full lap with a good driver, in a Ferrari at full song) 4) in depth on unique Ferraris that we'd all be unlikely to see in person (right now, William H's track 512TR comes to mind) 5) member comparisons (two FerrariChatters meet somewhere, trade drives/rides in each other's cars, document each others' opinions and comparisons, video labeled X vs Y #N); could include Ferrari vs non-Fcar 6) documentation of Ferrari races and racecars 7) various professional reviews of the cars, simply collected, and tagged with appropriate credits for the authors and copyright holders (might need to get permissions for this one) All of this we organize in directories of .mpeg's available for download... making them easy to find and browse. Given online delivery, we need only manage online level of quality. Of course, that doesn't mean that some won't be significantly better quality than others... but it does mean the minimum expectations will be lower and the consistency doesn't need to be as high. Further, it wouldn't be a one-shot deal... but rather a living library that can continue to grow over time. Just a thought. | ||
| Theo Pappas (Theo)
Junior Member Username: Theo Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2002 |
Going with MikeZ's comment on hitchhicking, what about doing a cross country drive from East Coast to West Coast using FChat's Ferrari's? What I am thinking about is we actually film and time it takes for different F-Chat members to drive their cars from the beggining of their state to the end of their state ( i.e. I drive my 328 along with other F-Chat Members in MA from Boston to RI or NY where I meet up with the next set of F-Chat members and they drive their Ferraris to NJ or PA. And so on until CA). At the end we would see the actual time it took and the number of Ferraris driven. We could use one or more cameras in different Ferrari's thus giving us more footage to edit. Just a thought. | ||
| Michael Zaic (Mikez_nj)
Junior Member Username: Mikez_nj Post Number: 110 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hmm... potential "plot" could be to interview owners of different Ferraris all over the US - but when you finish with Fcar, you get driven to the next. Almost like hitchhiking back and forth across the country in Ferraris. I'd buy that. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1536 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ill also have a 360 Spider in Miami for 8 days in early December! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3520 Registered: 6-2001 |
A video like the gumball 3000 is just stupid to make. It would be better to make a documentary sort of like the Victory by Design show. L wayne knows his •••• and could, if he has time, supply. | ||
| Lyndon Saia (Ljsaia)
New member Username: Ljsaia Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2003 |
A tape is being made of the 2003 French Quarter Classic. Below is the link: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/79558/337411.html?1067314336 | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1181 Registered: 6-2002 |
"Just shoot 8 hours or so of video, Edit it, voice over it." It sounds so easy to say, dosen't it! But production is HARD and EXPENSIVE work. Editing and post alone takes all three of Time, Money, and Skill. By the boat-load. I too have a full uncompressed HD capable effects suite, own all kinds of equipment, etc. and I'd still have to dump $LOTS into something like this just to get it started. It's a good idea, but are you ready for the logistics? Try interning in a production company for a while, and see if you're ready to even 'shoot the video' let alone edit, post, pay the compressionist, mass-produce, market, and sell. There's a LOT that goes into a feature. That's why they cost $2-200mil. | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 421 Registered: 2-2003 |
I could edit it. I am pretty good with digital editing and wouldn't mind doing it. But, I don't think you guys realize just how much footage it takes to make a good 5 min. movie. I just made a 5 min. movie for my advanced comm class and it took me over a half hour of footage. Erik | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2254 Registered: 11-2002 |
I vote for Jason W of Vantage as cinematographer. Or at least one of them. He had a pretty cool thing he filmed in one of those exotic car gatherings. Not to many exotics showed up but it was cool camera work! Cheers | ||
| ryan (Ferrari_kid)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_kid Post Number: 64 Registered: 7-2003 |
it's sounds like it's going to be a mini gumball or something like that. interviews with exotic car owners, fast cars racing through the cities, running from cops. it'll sell but i doubt like GGW. but like allan said, it's about quality. you don't want a poor quality video with wreckless driving and stupid comments. any teenager could do the same thing, i should know, a few of my friends did that a couple years ago. i think if you followed the Gumball formula (hot girls, amazing cars, etc.) it could be pretty successful. you just need a gimic that makes you stand out from the rest. i'm thinking you need exotic locations, like hawaii or even down pch. that's one thing the gumball doesn't have much of. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 313 Registered: 2-2003 |
I would take charge (winter is comming my landscape buisness is slowing down) but I have no assets. No cars, no equipment nothing but my time. Someone needs to take charge with some of these assets. As for wind noise tape mostly inside of the car and drive bys. | ||
| Michael C. James (Mjames)
Junior Member Username: Mjames Post Number: 161 Registered: 6-2003 |
The most interesting technical challenge I've seen from 'home-made' videos is how to properly mic a car. Mic'ing the interior muffles the engine sound and picks up driver/passenger chatter, while mic'ing the outside of the car picks up wind noise/buffeting....thoughts? | ||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 619 Registered: 11-2002 |
It is actually a very cool idea. Espcially if done the right way. As Allan says, high quality. If this could be arranged in some way, this could actually work. But someone has to take charge and do something about it. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 312 Registered: 2-2003 |
Was the car really a ferrari 275 in renduvus? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1774 Registered: 9-2002 |
NEvermind, I found this: www.rendezvousdvd.com --Dan | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1773 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jim, speaking of rendez-vous, apparently it is on DVD now. I found out because Octane is offering it with a 1 year subscription (damn UK subscribers only). --Dan | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 424 Registered: 6-2003 |
Allen, mount the camera on your helmet, then make a high speed run from Top of volcano to southern tip of Island, not stopping for anything or anybody. Run stop signs, red lights, etc...in fact, if someone in the street, gun it! It will sell like hotcakes! (Seen Rendezvous? It was amateur-like. One of the top selling car videos of all time...only 8 min long.) | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 311 Registered: 2-2003 |
Why would it be so hard. I don't understand. Just shoot 8 hours or so of video, Edit it, voice over it. Mabey the first video wouldn't be so great but you would get better and better at it. I have seen videos on the internet that are pretty good just need some voice over etc. Where is all this money going to go? | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 642 Registered: 4-2001 |
I at one time or another have had the thought of putting together a Ferrari buyers guide on DVD, starting with the 308 series... and have wanted to shoot a doc on the Ferrari fanatic... But unless you have sponsors, donors, or a fistfull of yen, it's hard to produce a quality product. I own an uncompressed digital edit suite, quality cameras, crane, do voice narration on a national basis, bla bla bla, and it would still cost me a fortune to produce something killer. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1534 Registered: 6-2002 |
I would only want to do something high quality. | ||
| Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member Username: Dr_bob Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2003 |
When this is done correctly, it can be a good idea, but Don't do this on one night sleep. Think about how you are going to get all the cars, what info do you want to show? do you want races or each car individual? Is there somebody here with a good camera, because en normal digicam is usually (pardon me) ••••. When you do something like this, it must be top quality, otherwise it's all like those 1000 other videos on the net. Just my 0.02 | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1533 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ive got my digital camcorder. If it sells like Girls gone wild, we can all buy some new cars! Hmmm, my wifes brother also works for Disney! He can do the editing! | ||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 618 Registered: 11-2002 |
But do you have a camera allan? It's a pretty important part of it | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1532 Registered: 6-2002 |
We can call it "Hot ho's and hot cars" or "Cars gone WILD" Hmmm we may be onto something. We drive around in our cars, and when girls ask for a ride, they must show us their TITTIES! lol Maui will be great for this one! | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1768 Registered: 9-2002 |
Andrew, If you're driving, so am I. I've got to show you down! 550 vs. 550, let's go! ;) Nero vs. Grigio! --Dan | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 310 Registered: 2-2003 |
Whats the next step in making this video? | ||
| Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee Post Number: 235 Registered: 4-2002 |
Incorporate this thread with the Ferrari bikini thread and you have one best selling video. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1531 Registered: 6-2002 |
I could run the 355 through the mountains here. | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 415 Registered: 6-2003 |
To make it interesting, it should be in Rendevous style...hmmmm, how fast can i drive thru Denver city center or Indy...do I have the guts to run a red light in my Fcar at high speed? | ||
| spanky mcdoogle (Spanky)
New member Username: Spanky Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2003 |
Other than Allan, do any of you have a fast car we can use in the video? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1529 Registered: 6-2002 |
I volunteer to race my Diablo against my 355! And ill buy a copy of the tape! | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 309 Registered: 2-2003 |
I think we should interview owners besides who know more about a car than the owner. | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 1181 Registered: 4-2003 |
A remake of Gone in 60 Seconds with DES | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1813 Registered: 10-2001 |
I volunteer to do the driving ! | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 559 Registered: 2-2003 |
I think it could be done......sounds like a good idea......do "amateur video" interviews with the owners and sell it on Ebay.................I tell ya what, sillier things have made money........you should run with this Dan G. What have ya got to lose? | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 308 Registered: 2-2003 |
There are very few good exotic car videos out there. I believe the compition wont be that bad. Top gear........I search for videos all the time and can't find any top gear videos(but can download them). The magazine Idea would have to much compition but good videos are hard to come by. I think we could do it. | ||
| Jason W (Pristines4)
Member Username: Pristines4 Post Number: 795 Registered: 12-2002 |
There's alot of competition... Tackedemics, Top Gear, etc. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1765 Registered: 9-2002 |
Noto nly is it difficult, but if your aim is to make money: what would it be about? For what target audience? As Faisal put it, not trivial. --Dan | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Intermediate Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 1028 Registered: 3-2003 |
Editing video takes a lot of time and effort. Shooting good footage takes skill too. Not trivial. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 303 Registered: 2-2003 |
Crazy idea: we (by we I mean you guys with Ferraris LOL) should all make a Ferrari video. We have all the cars here. We have people who could give comentary over the cars here. All we need to do is pass a video camera around. Could sell it on F-chat or thru the internet. MAKE MILLIONS LOL, or just have a lot of fun! What do you think? If you guys decide to I get a copy for free!LOL |