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Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
Member
Username: Cmparrf40

Post Number: 789
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:05 am:   

I make sure Gerald has information on all of my cars, including occasionally sending copies of any major work that has been performed on the car.

The F40 for example has had some significant upgrades, unless this car gets totalled, it may still be around 25, 50 or even 100 years from now. The information Gerald keeps will be priceless to someone down the road.

Some people on the site are always trying to find the bad side, there is nothing bad about Gerald and the services he performs...

It has to be a 2 way street, if you want to use FML for research on a car you are considering, it is only fair you volunteer info on your current Ferrari for next buyer.

It is not like he is asking for your bank account number........
Richard Gilmore (Astuteinv)
New member
Username: Astuteinv

Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

I have also used the free info that Mitchell has been very helpful with on a '72 Dino, an '83 Boxer and a '95 355. I will gladly help out. I also subscribe and enjoy the newsletter as well as using the average asking prices as a reference point in my search for my next classic purchase (Daytona or 365!).
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1136
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:10 am:   

Hey thanks fellas, that means a lot. It is an honor to work for Gerald and FML, and it is so cool hearing from you all. I love hearing about history of these cars! Some is quite facinating. Keep it up!
wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member
Username: Whart

Post Number: 1708
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 8:12 pm:   

Yeah, i've gotta say, every time i've called FML they provided almost immediate data (whatever they had) on F-cars. I do appreciate the concerns expressed about the use of the data, though, so don't take it too defensively Mitchel. (And, yes, i am aware that you have been contributing to FML).
Roy Kaller (Kaller)
New member
Username: Kaller

Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 8:01 pm:   

I'd just like to offer my thanks to Mr. Roush for the free research he provided on a 1972 Daytona I was considering last year. He had details that were otherwise unavailable through other public sources. Mitchel, I will gladly send complete info on my now departed 328GTS, as well as my current 550, but if you don't mind I will send it to the main FML e-mail address to ensure the identity of the recipient.
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Member
Username: Boxer12

Post Number: 429
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 4:06 pm:   

If you want info on cars, I know a company that will search state motor vehicle records for you, for a price. For instance, you could get a list of all Ferraris (owners, addresses, VIN numbers) in whatever state you want. Its public record.
Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member
Username: Dr_bob

Post Number: 109
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 4:06 pm:   

I must say that is the .... SHOW YOURSELF! topics help too :-)
Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member
Username: Dr_bob

Post Number: 108
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 4:00 pm:   

John, It's just like somebody said here before, When you buy a new car you can get info for that for free. Maybe that's valuable enough?
John Whelan (Fodee)
Junior Member
Username: Fodee

Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:58 pm:   

That's valuable information. How about they give everyone that provides the information a free one year subscription! That's one per car registered.
Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member
Username: Dr_bob

Post Number: 107
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   

Rob,

I do it together with andrew, only I'm online here more often, that's why I posted it.

Bob
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 6751
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:31 pm:   

Bob, why don't you just use Andrew's?
Bob (Dr_bob)
Junior Member
Username: Dr_bob

Post Number: 106
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:19 pm:   

Ok, this was my idea :-(

I want to do the same, only I'm just beginning, and I want to put it online, Info that will be shared:
vin number
type car
original colors, colors today
km/miles
LHD/RHD
when it changed owner

Offcourse, I'm just beginning, and this is a awfull lot of work. Call me crazy, but hey, Atleast I don't rob stores ;)
So my question is the same as the original :-)
Please send your info to [email protected] or [email protected]
Thanks
Vince (Manatee)
Member
Username: Manatee

Post Number: 467
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:03 pm:   

I sure wouldn't give out names and/or addresses of current or prior owners. The city might be okay.
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member
Username: Andrewg

Post Number: 490
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Mitchel,
not too bothered about the serial number more concerned with the rest of the stuff, have heard of people taking detailed information and cloning cars, not saying that's what you'd do (pretty sure of that) but you never know whos hands that data could end up in, have you asked Ferrari themselves?
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1132
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:39 am:   

WOW thank you all for your emails! This is wonderful infomation!! Keep em coming! I sincerly appreciate this.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody

Post Number: 2034
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:37 am:   

FABULOUSLY helpful info, mitchel. thank you.

doody.
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 521
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:34 am:   

Mitchel,

I just sent you an e-mail with my ferrari info, and would love to hear back with any info you may already have on record for my car.

Dom
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1131
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:28 am:   

Sure! OK, we do not charge a dime for information about the cars. We get calls from around the world every day, asking for infomation about a particular Ferrari for sale and what info do we have on the car....for instance, there was a 330 GTC on ebay recently that we got a lot of calls on from potential buyers. We are merely trying to help people do their homework on Ferraris. If you were interested in buying...lets say a 250 PF coupe from someone you have never heard of. Call FML and give us the serial number and we provide whatever history we have. We can provide important historical infomation about a car, its location, where it was bought new, who owned it, if it was ever crashed, repainted, converted, ect. Problem is, there is so much we don't know, and so many cars we don't even know about. Yes, if we could, we would have history on every single Ferrari made. That is the purpose of this post.

If you send an email to me, you can use my hotmail account, or you can send it to my work email address: [email protected]

I asked Gerald if I could post that message to help in my research and he had no problem with it. Like I had mentioned, I am trying to assist him as much as possible by freeing up his time, hence why I volunteered to post that message. I report directly to Gerald, he is my boss. No need to be paranoid. We are only promoting the love and passion of the cars for you, and future owners.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody

Post Number: 2032
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:14 am:   

fair 'nuff, mitchel. could you please possibly answer my original questions? i would find that helpful, and i imagine others would as well.

doody.
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1130
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:06 am:   

Understood Doody. I did not mean to come off like a smarty pants. I am very proud to work for FML and Gerald Roush. By researching the cars and the serial numbers, I am helping Gerald get a lot of work off of his plate. It is my job to research Ferraris, so I think this is a great place to get my research material. I completely understand those of you who do not want to share that info. But there are a lot of you who don't mind. That is all, not intending to bother anyone.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody

Post Number: 2031
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:59 am:   

Mitchel:

Comments like you made to Andrew neither help your case nor reflect positively on The Ferrari Market Letter.

Doody.
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1129
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:47 am:   

Thanks for that Frank. I am sure some folks think this is a bad idea. What we are doing is adding to a database of THOUSANDS of other Ferraris...making it possible for future owners to find out more info about a car. It also adds info to the largest library of data about the cars.

Thanks for your input Andrew, your serial numbers are in your profile already.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 3138
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:43 am:   

FYI, Mitchell works with Gerald at The Ferrari Market Letter. And, this information could end up helping you one day when you are buying a then classic Ferrrai and are researching it's history.
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member
Username: Andrewg

Post Number: 487
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:41 am:   

in a word NO
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1128
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:41 am:   

Your personal info will not be released to anyone. Just the information about the car. I am trying to add to Gerald's database.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody

Post Number: 2030
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:37 am:   

could you please define further for me (us) the phrase "This will be completely confidential."?

what information will you be sharing with people for what sort of fees based on this data?

and can you please clarify your relationship with FML (why didn't Gerald post this?)?

finally, why is this info being sent to free email services instead of a real site?

doody.

sorry - i don't mean to sound paranoid, but, well, i'm paranoid ;-)
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1127
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:28 am:   

We are requesting information about your Ferrari(s). The Ferrari Market Letter has one of, if not the largest library of information about Ferrari cars, next to Ferrari themselves. Besides collecting the full serial numbers (17-digit VIN on cars after 1980) of the cars, we also would like to acquire; year, model, engine internal number, gearbox and rear axle numbers, interior and exterior colors (past and present if applicable), US/European models, odometer reading, special options, ownership history, location of car, racing history, celebrity owners, photos for our archives. If you send us what you have about your car, we will in return provide you with any information and history of your car that the FML might have in the database. We can also provide history on particular Ferraris. This will be completely confidential. To ensure this, please send an email to me: [email protected] or [email protected] thank you very much! If you have any questions or need anything, please let us know.

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