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Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 6:19 pm: | |
Dave, I have read the book and it was definitely interesting. The typical millionaire next door would never own an F-car. Most people I know who have money are extremly cheap. They are the ultimate tightwads. If someday I have some real money I am going to enjoy myself, Life is to short not to do so. |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 712 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 6:09 pm: | |
Jerry, I'm glad to hear another story similar to mine. It's a great country! Mr. Green, You may find it hard to believe, but one of the many things I am thankful for is that I did not grow up in a rich family, or even middle class for that matter. My dad had an 8th grade education, but he taught me the most important lessons of all about responsibility and work ethic. So, I am touchy about the silver spoon comment that I hear from people from time to time, perhaps overly so. If you are prodding us out of some type of envy or disdain for being successful, you need an attitude adjustment becuase I'm betting you have more advantages in life already than many of us did. To learn more, I recommend reading "The Millionaire Next Door". It chronicles how people really do succeed in this country and it's not the way most people would think. Dave |
Frank (Sparta49)
Member Username: Sparta49
Post Number: 556 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 4:58 pm: | |
all the ferrari owners i know earned their money and have the passion. not many garage queens around here |
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Intermediate Member Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 1081 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:51 pm: | |
Not me either Troll. Work hard, play hard! |
PeterS (Peters)
Intermediate Member Username: Peters
Post Number: 1707 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:32 pm: | |
My friends with $35K ski boats ask me how I can afford a Ferrari ('77 308). I just tell them that I don't own a ski boat! They don't get it! |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 330 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:13 pm: | |
Well I did wake up in it one morning! Boy was I mad it was only Friday and not Saturday. Damn that good country music and cold beer anyway! Exxon lab workers scurrying to work across the street. We call the back lot at my honky tonk the River Oaks Campground! |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 329 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
No, I can get to it in the car, but my bling bling apartment neighbor's get p.o.'d about all the parts in the yard!LOL Heaven forbid I put a scratch on the Volvo next to mine. I think that girl could use a little Ferrari passion. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
Alan, Don't feel bad,If I had a F-car I would be eating out of the trash and sleeping in it. |
Ken (Allyn)
Intermediate Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 1249 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:07 pm: | |
The Thermostat on a Europa is 2 minutes. It's on top and you hardly lose any coolant! I just changed mine 2 weeks ago in fact. Ah, but the waterpump in a TC is an engine out, like a 308 is I think. I let the pro do that because you also have to remove the head, and having a TC engine that doesn't leak oil usually requires someone who knows what they're doing. |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 327 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:58 pm: | |
Well said, Ken. Can you help me with my water pump and t-stat this weekend? My technician gave me h___ once for being at a Jack in the Box with a malfunction. I told him; "Listen I have to eat here, to pay YOU!" I think he makes me fix the simple things under the "teach a man to fish" theory. |
Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan
Post Number: 424 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:55 pm: | |
This turned out to be a good thread. Reading these stories is cool. Keep them coming don't let Green get to you. Maybe I might have that Ferrari before I turn 30 now. Erik |
Ken (Allyn)
Intermediate Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 1248 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:52 pm: | |
Mr Green, I think there's the perception that Ferrari owners are rich and certainly the ones who buy new ones are, but the vast majority of owners have old Ferraris, because there are so many out there compared to new ones. These people aren't any richer than anyone else. Lotus owners don't seem to carry the "rich" stigma which is very nice indeed. I COULD be a 308 owner if I add up all the money I've spent the last 3 years on my Europa, but the DIY aspect of a Ferrari are complex, while my Europa is a vastly simpler car and more my techical level at the moment. My cash outlay for the car and parts and occasional mechanic would have been the same as for a 308, except I've been doing most of my own work on the Lotus and thus saved the labor costs. I'm not confident enough to do a timing belt change myself for instance, my Lotus has a chain. Perhaps as my learning curve increases, I'll step into a 308 (or Mondial) at some point. It's not money as much as dedication to have such a car WITHOUT throwing money at it every time something needs work on it. I've earned the right to own my car through my dedication to learn about it in a hands on way. Ferrari owners are the same, except I venture to say they are mostly more experienced mechanics than I am. Anyone can own a Ferrari if they are willing to sacrifice in some way for the requirements of a toy car. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:51 pm: | |
Thomas, Thanks for helping me stay on my diet, Your plan is better than weight watchers. P.S. Maybe we can meet at Canters sometime and nosh on a corned beef sandwich. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:44 pm: | |
Dave, If your a taxpayer, You do! |
Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax
Post Number: 770 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:44 pm: | |
Jerry - ignore Gary Green's snide remarks. He's had numerous accounts and is a glutton for punishment. I believe this is third account in less than a month, for example. I pummel trolls. Gary - don't try so hard *WARNING TO OTHERS* - link is an appetite suppressant - Click at your own peril. |
ARIE BONSELAAR (Arie)
Junior Member Username: Arie
Post Number: 88 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:39 pm: | |
Darn! I had to do it the old fashion way! WORK FOR IT!! YIKES!! is that still ok? some people have $40,000 + tahoes or crew cab 4x4`S or boats, some have ferrari`s |
Dave Quick (Davequick)
Junior Member Username: Davequick
Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:37 pm: | |
Mr Green - who pays for your college or whatever you're a student of? Just curious. -dq |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:18 pm: | |
Jerry, That's a very touching story, Would you be willing to take a polygraph test. |
jerry macaluso (Anunakki)
New member Username: Anunakki
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:13 pm: | |
Hey Everyone. Been browsing this forum for a year now and never posted anything.. While its pretty obvious Mr Green is fishing for trouble he did initiate a good thread. I had a trust fund baby working for me for a while. Put an extremely bad taste in my mouth for people like that. IM sure there are plenty of them who arent obnoxious about it but this guy was the worst. Every other month he showed off his new exotic to the other employees. He bought a million dollar house ( definately not on his $35,000 salary). He would pay other employees huge amounts of money out of his pocket to do his work for him. I wanted to fire him from the get go but my partner insisted he stay for some reason. I could never even figure out why he wanted to work here. Ultimately found out he wouldnt get his money if he didnt have a job. But as others have said, he didnt care about anything he had. The cars were just to try and make him popular. I believe he was a very unhappy person. I couldnt imagine what its like to not earn yours. Having said all that I spent enough time on this board to see most of the people here are very deserving of what they have. I chose a Viper over a Ferrari last year as my first real sports car. Im a huge F-car fan though and plan on having a Boxer or 512 to accompany my Viper within the next 24 months. Oh and I grew up in a trailer park with my family on welfare. Moved to California with $800 in my pocket at 20 yrs old. Everythign I have I made happen. I believe everyone has it in them. |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 326 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 1:42 pm: | |
I gave up on the house thing. I just have the Ferrari and a dome tent. But it's a NICE dome tent. |
Warren Balla (West662)
Junior Member Username: West662
Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 1:13 pm: | |
.............no comment
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Will 575 (Willh)
Member Username: Willh
Post Number: 378 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:57 pm: | |
"obviously the cars that are shown and discussed" Uh, Warren, come on, now. It's really the bikini thread, isn't it? That gives you the "driving force?" You had me going on the car enthusiast thing until I saw your profile.  |
Warren Balla (West662)
Junior Member Username: West662
Post Number: 148 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:48 pm: | |
I think Allan has a good point. The Ferrari owners on this board (and owners of other high priced exotics for that matter) are truly passionate about their cars. They wouldn't constantly post on this bored if they weren't. I mean, setting up meets, posting pictures of weekly drives, new additions to their cars, new purchases, this all shows how passionate the owners are. And for people like me, who don't own a Ferrari (soon though!) and are still really passionate about the cars, share our opinions too, comment on the owners cars, and discuss our Ferrari related experience. For me, a student who is working hard to obtain my MBA, this board provides a lot of motivation and inspiration. Seeing the new Ferraris people buy, and looking at all these pictures from shows, and meets, and tracks, really inspires me to work towards purchasing an F-Car of my own. I know it sounds cheesy, but, this board, the people who post here, and obviously the cars that are shown and discussed, are truly the driving force behind my future success. Gives me something to achieve |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Intermediate Member Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 1088 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:55 am: | |
Good one Thomas!! |
Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax
Post Number: 765 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 4:30 am: | |
Holy cow!
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Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax
Post Number: 764 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 4:17 am: | |
Gary Greenland is where you want to go, m'man! The surfing is fabulous, as is the snorkeling. Babes, babes, babes everywhere, too! |
James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member Username: Aventino
Post Number: 155 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 4:00 am: | |
This thread reminds me of "lived in't shoe box in middle t'road" (with apologies to Monty Python) |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:58 am: | |
Do you think they have F-cars in Iceland? |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1878 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:54 am: | |
Hugh: Iceland *IS* nice! --Dan |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 661 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:20 am: | |
Mr. Green: The house was $67,000 in 1984, on an acre, in a nice small town, at the end of a dead end road, with woods and a creek in back, with a four car garage/workshop. Sorry, I know you can't do that anymore. I hope you're able to get your 355 Spider anyway. |
John Leaman (365boy)
New member Username: 365boy
Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 3:00 am: | |
Mr Green, For many of us, having a Ferrari means that we're skint, not that we're loaded... Does that make you feel better..? John |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1638 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:34 am: | |
I hear Iceland is nice. Go for it! |
Thomas I (Wax)
Member Username: Wax
Post Number: 763 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:26 am: | |
Move. Far, far, far away from an internet connection. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 2:24 am: | |
Jeff B. Tell me where I can find a house for 67,000 that's not in Compton or Watts and I'll be driving a 355 Spider tomorrow. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 2406 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 1:57 am: | |
Thats my plan exactly Jeff B.  |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 660 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 1:28 am: | |
I admit it, I made some money off a family trust fund. My parents, who both worked hard, never went anywhere, never spent their money, lived quietly - they had a trust fund for us. And they died before their time. I'd much rather have them back, but I didn't get to vote on it. In my case, I could afford a Ferrari (a used one) because I chose not to marry until I was 43 years old, I chose not to have children, I chose to live in a $67,000 house, I chose not to spend my money on clothes, booze, smoking, gambling, credit card interest, fine dining, etc. That doesn't make me a "Trust Fund Baby" or a "Rich Kid". It makes me someone who happens to own a Ferrari. I could just as easily have purchased a little motor home, but I wanted a Ferrari. OK, Mr. Green? |
Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 3528 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
Whenever i buy a nice car, it will be because i worked for it. I pay for my clothes, books, food, trips, etc so a car will be no different. I will have my parents to thank because they are paying for college and being supportive of me and helping me, which is a big advantage that i probably take for granted. I really cant thank my dad enough beacuse college is ridiculously expensive and having to pay off student loans would suck. In a way i guess my dad's hard work being at the top of his class in HS, princeton and NYU law while working to pay for it (and if that wasnt enough, being on the us olympic team too) not only benefited himself, but also his children. Does it come as any suprise that i really look up to my dad? |
John B (John_b)
Junior Member Username: John_b
Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 9:14 pm: | |
I put myself through college and graduate school with jobs scholarships and student loans. I earned every penny myself. I bought my first exotic, a Lamborghini Miura, when I was 27. From the sounds of it so far Troll, you lose. Get lost! |
Spasso (Djparks)
Member Username: Djparks
Post Number: 705 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 9:07 am: | |
Tony (Pantera) alert.! |
DGS (Dgs)
Member Username: Dgs
Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:51 am: | |
My dad was a carpenter. That's another thing I have in common with Jesus Christ. <ducking> (If you must feed the trolls, feed 'em ... to the bears.) (You'll find one in the "barren room".) |
Augustine Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328
Post Number: 705 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:43 am: | |
My parents were the children of very hard working immigrants. We didn't have much when I was a kid but my parents have always been incredibly supportive of me. We've always lived beyond our financial capabilities because my father and mother wanted me to see all that was out there in the world despite our modest upbringings. They wanted me to be exposed to some of the better things so that I could see the value of hard work and the subsequent rewards. I guess it paid off. I bought my first F-car in April without a dime of their money. It feels great. |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 324 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:41 am: | |
As I was going thru school, I knew a guy taking that route. Someone observed "Don't worry, they won't let him have that car and leather furniture IN PRISON! LOL |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 855 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:37 am: | |
No No No. Silver spoons have nothing to do with it. Rich parents have nothing to do with it. The key is crack. Sell lots of crack. Conversely, you could rob banks, but selling crack has larger margins. So, Mr. Green..... go sell crack. |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 322 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:35 am: | |
My silver spoon, I learned years later, was actually stainless steel! It's handy because you don't have to polish it very much. I worked hard to get my car, and work even harder to keep it running. Lot's of folks visit F world. Fewer can stay in it very long. It came up yesterday in a technical meeting I was in, after I expressed all the information and insight I had on the problem, everyone agreed it would be cheaper to fix it using someone who didn't drive a Ferrari! I picked up the $6 million dollar contract payment and left the $600 dollar problem on the table! |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 331 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:25 am: | |
I started with nothing, and have still most of it. Rijk |
Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member Username: Judge4re
Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 8:18 am: | |
Green: I didn't go to medical school, my doctorate is in engineering and I paid for it myself. My parents helped me out the first two years of college, after that, I wanted to be self sufficient and on my own. You can have any thing that you work for. Regards, Erik |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1630 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:33 am: | |
Mr. Green: Fantastic to see you here. It's unusual to find an example of your species (annonymouisis annoyingous jagovigos) at this age, so I've got ask (as a pathologist): how DID you survive into adulthood? Most examples of your species usually end up under a bus, train or with a blow pop stuck in their ear (ugly, really ugly). Do tell. In anticipation and warmly, Dr. Stumped at how anyone could be this genuinly annoying and like it. Ph.D. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1848 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:33 am: | |
Dude, brilliant idea! You're definetly onto something there... --Dan |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 1153 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:30 am: | |
Dan, the penny cups are just that. I get the big $$ by scraping the change from fountains. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1846 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:25 am: | |
Tyler, dude, I totally got it: I'm gonna raid gas station penny-cups! Then I'll be ok... --Dan |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 1152 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:22 am: | |
Dan, lol. Inflation is a biaatch. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1845 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:18 am: | |
Damn. My pathetic $2,999,999.99 annual trust income just doesn't cut it anymore. Bah... --Dan |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 1151 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 1:04 am: | |
Yoshi, I could not have said it better. |
Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Member Username: Tiger_ace
Post Number: 254 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:43 am: | |
I think people with trust fund or rich kids won't be surfing on this sight that much. Most of my super rich friends don't do much internet, but just e-mails. (earning over $3 million a year) I like Vincent, Brian's & Ben's story. Most people builds their characters by achieving & doing it by self. I agree totally with "people play hard also works hard" and "in many ways, people here are born w/ silver spoon". |
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd
Post Number: 1188 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:56 pm: | |
This may actually turn out to be a good thread, despite it's creator's assianine intentions! I started my own buisness (somewhat legally, operating through another corporation) at age 14. Now I own 7 small companies, still working on the Ferrari though. Mom and Dad were always supportive, letting me play in the garage and do as I pleased as long as it was in a posative direction. But I worked my ass off, and made my own way. Occationally they'd 'match funds' with me when I was twelve or thirteen or so. This is a great way to help your kids out, while still making it very much 'their own doing'. So what if mom and dad helped along the way though. I have as much respect for the Enzo owner who started with $0.56 in his pocket on the docks in New York as I have for the guy who started with $1mil 'play money' from Daddy, and instead of blowing it on bad cheese, turned it into 100x that and enjoyed life along the way. When you think about it, everyone in the US still has a damn decent standard of living, in many respects we are ALL born with a silver spoon in our mouths. Best! Ben. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 617 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:00 pm: | |
I paid my way through college and grad school via scholarships and jobs... not a dime from my parents. My parents did buy a Datsun B210 for me to *use* (it was theirs when we sold it). I worked throughout high school, starting at a grocery store when I was 14 1/2... got a hardship license to allow me to drive to work. Later worked at a pizza place and then on a golf course. Made enough to afford a Toyota Celica (so glad to get rid of the B210). Then my senior year in high school moved up to the big time... writing software for a semiconductor company. That income coupled with scholarships allowed me to afford a 5 year-old Datsun 280ZX, which I kept through college and until I had my first kid (at which point practicality said I needed a 4-seater... so I got a Nissan Sentra). Worked throughout school in software jobs... worked 80-100hour weeks at a startup company... income ramped up, first bought a BMW 328, then an M3, then a 911, and ultimately as close to my dream car as I could get... a 360 Modena. (My dream cars, since they came out, were the Mclaren F1 and the Ferrari F50.) As has already been well-said in this thread... other than the shoppers that are here for a short time, most of the others are fairly passionate... either about Ferraris or about trolling. Those who are passionate in a positive way, tend to work hard and play hard. And with a little luck, that hard work pays off so that they can play hard with really cool toys. |
martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member Username: Mw575
Post Number: 1268 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:48 pm: | |
Ignore..ignore...ignore. |
1987 Jerry (Slag_328gts)
Member Username: Slag_328gts
Post Number: 349 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | |
I think your dad would appreciate you still using his tools. |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 710 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:27 pm: | |
Dear Troll, You are more ignorant than I thought. In the US, most millionaires are self made, very few trust funds. As for myself, both my parents were dead by the time I was 20. My father (an auto mechanic) left me his tools, many of which I still have. I am where I am now by hard work and risk taking. I still have many of the tools and use them on the ferrari sometimes. My father would like that I think. I was even on welfare briefly until the social security survivor funds started coming. My story is by no means bragging. There are many like me, many even more successful even with a worse start. I don't know any trust fund babies among the Fcar owners I know. Instead, all are hard working, mostly small business owners who started very modestly. Undoubtedly, there are some rich kids somewhere, but they are a minority. Most of us have more in common with the kids wrenching their Honda civics than with rich kids. We all know you are here to stir the pot and piss us off, but perhaps you could actually learn something from our responses and our success overall if you can get past your preconceived notions. Dave Dave |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1828 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:10 pm: | |
If this question is at all serious, then my response will be: I took advantage of my parents. Yup, that's right. They sent me to the best schools, provided me with opportunities I am still learning about, and gave me the kind of love and support I realize most will never experience. As such, when I decided to try different things in business, they were 100% behind me. Moral support, guidance, pointers, etc. - I can say that I have done everything independantly, but w/o my father's influence, I never would have even tried. So while all of my toys are the fruits of my own labor, I give credit to my parents for their love and support. Oh, and get it right. It's caviar and the spoon is a mixed platinum and gold, jeweled of course! --Dan |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 1569 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:41 pm: | |
Hey Green, of course Ferrari owners have a silver spoon. How do you think they eat their favorite peanut butter out of the jar that you were so concerned about in the off topic section?
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arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 2836 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:33 pm: | |
Most of the people I've met earned the money for their cars. Those that got lucky in parental selection, are some of the nicest people I've met in a long time. I got married in 1971, had $300.00 in the bank, owned a 68 Camero, and thats it. Both myself and my wife worked very hard to get where we are, and are proud of it. Having said that, even if some of the folks had a little help, as long as they are hard working people, so what. Art |
1987 Jerry (Slag_328gts)
Member Username: Slag_328gts
Post Number: 348 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:32 pm: | |
Just a hard working kid - I don't own an expensive f-car though... |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1555 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:29 pm: | |
I think youll find most worked hard for their cars. Those who have things given to them, would not have the passion to constantly post on this board. They drive exotics cars because they always have, not because they have a passion for them. I worked long and hard to get where i am, and continue to do so. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 3252 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:28 pm: | |
I earned 100% of it, assholio. Shouldn't you be doing your Trig homework instead of playing with your mama's computer? |
Vincent (Vincent348)
Intermediate Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 1131 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:26 pm: | |
Bought mine at 29, worked saturdays for eight years and still doing that. Always had a passion for Ferrari, and the car has not disappointed me! But nothing beats a Sunday off driving faster than you should trying to keep up with Lox. 99 percent of the people I've met, who have exotics, have all accomplished something! What have you done mr. green? Vincent. |
casey slattery (Mondialcab)
New member Username: Mondialcab
Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:20 pm: | |
I earned mine..started my own little business and have made good money. However, I attribute most of my success to my parents..they told me at an early age that they were putting food on my table and a roof over my head and if I ever wanted to buy anything I would have to make my own money..so I did just that. Bought a Mercedes at 17 and a Ferrari a few months ago at 20. Im now about to buy a Rolls-Royce. Always managed to keep a nice amount of money in the bank too. It feels great to make your own money, be independant and be able to buy yourself nice things. I have to agree with the others that your message's wording is insolant at best. (play nice) |
Rich Carter (Wfo900)
New member Username: Wfo900
Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:18 pm: | |
Green: I wanted a Ferrari since I read about the F1 races in Road & Track at age 11 in the grocery store magazine counter. The truth is that from that day on I wanted a Ferrari. I helped put myself through college working about 70 hours a week and was a professional motorcycle racer, thus was able to pay for Law School without exhorbitant student loans like most of the guys on this list. After Law School I taught law school and did public interest law for 10 years before going into private practice. I can now afford to own the car of my dreams when I am in my 50's. The Ferrari people I have met have all been very passionate about their cars and are some of the nicest people I have had the pleasure to know. When you get older you will come to understand that gearheads are all real nice people. There are precious few trust fund babies on this list. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:55 pm: | |
Who paid for your medical school? |
Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member Username: Judge4re
Post Number: 235 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:54 pm: | |
I aquired my 365 when I was 23 years old. Didn't get any money from my parents, only opportunities. Hard work beats a trust fund every day of the week. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:54 pm: | |
I have Green in the name not in the pocket. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 629 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:52 pm: | |
There sure seem to be a lot of "Greens" on this board lately. |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:51 pm: | |
Jeff, What kind of factory job allows you to own a F-car? |
Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
Dan, I believe when you get your Lambo you will have earned it. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 628 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:49 pm: | |
Lox....very well put! |
Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio
Post Number: 315 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:48 pm: | |
Most Ferrari and Lamborghini owners I have meet earned it. |
Lox Thomson (V8esprit)
New member Username: V8esprit
Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:44 pm: | |
I think we can figure out that you are neither, goes the same for me! I purchased my car by age 23 without a red cent from my folks or trusts. The Lotus is paid off, but I do still have college loans. Maybe I and other's who respond will be the inspiration you need to turn your frown upside down and apply your efforts to achieving something you think is unachievable. -Lox Thomson Palo Alto, CA 97 Lotus Esprit V8 red/tan
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Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 627 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:39 pm: | |
I'm a factory worker, just a ham-n-egger. I sacrafice a lot to own my Ferrari. I used to eat a lot better, sleep a lot better, and have a full head of hair, before I bought this car. And you know what? It's all been worth it! By the way...your wording of the question is very inflamitory...and a bit insolant. I hope the responses are above the spirit in which this thread was started. |
I'm a troll! (Mr_green)
Junior Member Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:33 pm: | |
I believe alot of F-car owners are either trust fund baby's or rich kids. How many of you would come forth with the truth in front of this board.
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