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Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
Junior Member
Username: Tdf355
Post Number: 68
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:26 pm: | |
Anymore Daytona opinions? |
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member
Username: Wsawyer
Post Number: 153
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 7:00 am: | |
I had heard once that many older Ferraris, including Daytonas, needed complete engine rebuilds at 25,000 miles. Is there any truth to that? |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member
Username: Caribe
Post Number: 301
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:38 pm: | |
Great stories! Thank you guys for sharing. We should do this more often at FerrariChat, get impressions of the older cars from owners like yourselves, like ourselves. It definitely beats the standarized reviews of many magazines of the past, plus we can ask questions, ha. |
William Badurski (Billb)
New member
Username: Billb
Post Number: 50
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 10:11 pm: | |
Rearding maintenance, one of the great things about the Daytona is the lack thereof, in my opinion. These cars are strong, and once tuned properly, are dead reliable. They have the same trans synchro idiosyncrasies as most other Ferraris, in that when cold, second is sometimes difficult. As Rijk said in his post, they take a long time to warm up, and are a little finnicky (sp?) until then. The only consistent flaws I've found are corrosion-related. The stock exhaust resonators tend to collect condensation on the forward bulkhead, and are prone to rust. I replaced mine with stainless steel years ago, and they're still like new. Other areas are the doors on USA cars, as mositure can get trapped behind the brace bar and door skin, and also under the rear quarter windows, where foam rubber was glued in at the factory for sound deadening. The foam tends to hold moisture and corrode this area from the inside out. |
Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
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Username: Tdf355
Post Number: 13
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 12:18 pm: | |
Thanks again guys for your in depth answers!! How about maintenence, any major issues? |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
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Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 10:17 am: | |
I drive the s/n 14771. a 1971 Daytona in silver with black interior. No big warrior stories, but I love the Daytona. The problem with the newer Ferrari's is that they are too good. To get the full experience you have to go very very fast. Not so in the Daytona. This car is engaging at any speed. Way too heavy at low speeds, but as soon as you're moving everything comes together. And then of course the sound. Always the sound. Always loud, but starting at 4000 revs all hell breaks loose. I always have to shift up some gears when close to cops. I keep the car in NYC, which is something of a pain, and I am allways surprised of how long it takes for the engine to warm up completely. All of a sudden after about fifteen miles, the car comes together and off we go. I love the silver. The lines come out great and it keeps the car invisible to all but a few. I will be at WWoC on May 19 in the morning and hope to meet a few of you guys.
Rijk |
William Badurski (Billb)
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Username: Billb
Post Number: 48
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 9:59 pm: | |
Mark,
I've owned three. My first Ferrari was a new 308GT4 bought from Joe Marchetti in Chicago in July '76. In Feb '77 Joe called to offer Daytona 14585, for $4 grand and the 308! I got a test ride through the streets of Chicago on a Saturday afternoon with speeds up to 100, and what a sound! About 2-1/2 years later, Joe had a 365GT/4BB, so I took the plunge. It was 17403, an early one and ran like hell but broke down a lot. Kept it for a year, and then had enough so I decided to go back to old reliable, another Daytona. Took a week's vacation and lined up several cars from Chicago to Denver to Phoenix to San Diego & L.A. Bought 16937 in August '80 in San Diego after flying from town to town with my compression gauge and a lot of airport parking lot test drives. I then turned her east and drove back to Chicago in about 42 hours (brief stops along the way and switching off with my wife driving). Also picked up a speeding ticket for about 90 on the interstate in Barstow right off the bat. Got stopped again in Grand Island, NE but they let me go. I kept this one for nine years and ran it in several track events at Road America and Blackhawk Farms. With velocity stacks, straight pipes, a couple MSD boxes, Ferodo DS-11 pads, and some distributor retuning, it was one of the fastest street cars there. Once, I did some road testing to figure out the carb jets on a deserted road near home. Ran it up to full speed of an indicated 171. I then stopped on the side of the road to take spark plugs out when an unmarked cop car pulled up. He gave me a ticket, even though I was stopped at this point. It was for "110+". Said he'd been trying to catch me, but his Diplomat wouldn't go any faster than that! Ouch, that cost a bit of dough. Sold it begrudgingly in '89 to get a new TR. Which was nice but not a Daytona. So, in July '93 I bought 14113 from Rick Mancuso. It's a spyder conversion, done at Sport Auto in Italy and although I've judged Daytona's on a national level, I can't tell it from an original spyder. It's got every correct piece and the correct rear clip. I've also wanted either a 250 GTO or a Daytona Spyder, and since the GTO is out, the cut spyder was the hot ticket for me. All Daytonas sound absolutley terrific, but the spyder just makes it more intense. Driving through long covered bridges at high rpm sends a chill down the spine! Just finished a year and a half engine and gearbox overhaul (it needed everything), and raised the compression a bit since new pistons were in order. Just got her back on the road and am breaking things in now.
The Daytona is one of the best in my opinion. I've always gravitated back to them, and have owned the present one for nine years, so combined ownership is over twenty years' experience. They're a truck to drive slow, but once you get some speed gathered, they simply fly. Had a run-in with a big block Vette on the interstate once, and he kept alongside til about 130, when I shifted into the next gear. You should have seen the look on his face. Oh well, ta-ta Vette. Yeah, Daytonas... I love em. |
Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
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Username: Tdf355
Post Number: 12
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 8:10 pm: | |
Nice job Chris , thats what I call an impression!
Anybody else here own one , drive in one ? |
wm hart (Whart)
Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 270
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 8:40 am: | |
That photo, with dean batchelor at the wheel, is one of my all time favorites. I tracked down the guy that bought dean's stuff and had him make several large prints, one of which hangs in my office. |
Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member
Username: Cmparrf40
Post Number: 244
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 11:06 pm: | |
I owned a 1973 365GTB/4 Fly Yellow Daytona.
This was the first Ferrari I remember falling in love with.
Reading Road & Tracks article about Bill Harrah's Daytona and seeing that picture of the speedomoter at 173 mph left a lasting impression on a then 10 year old boy....
In August of 1999 I was reading the FML and I saw it, a Fly Yellow Daytona, I wasn't even in the market for another Ferrari.
I just paid off the 355 and 3 weeks prior I had just bought Dana a 246GT Dino.
But there it was... my Daytona.
The car belonged to long time Ferrari owner in San Diego, but the car was origionally from the Greg Garrison Collection and was the 1978 Long Beach Grand Prix poster car.
Chris Hill and I flew to San Diego to see the car, we finished our inspection about 2:00 on a Saturday afternoon. Well as any real Ferrari owner would do, we cancelled our airplane tickets, loaded our luggage, ditched the rental car and pointed the Daytona east. Did I mention I live in Kansas City and I had to be back in the office Monday morning?
It was 104 degrees in Phoenix at 10:30PM when we pulled into GT Car Parts.... First of several major parts orders, thanks Bill for seeing us late!
Did I mention Daytona's love to go fast? And I mean fast, cruise speed 130, all day (and night).
New Mexico, 105 degrees, A/C on. yeah right! like mouse with a mouth full of ice blowing threw a straw!
Valentine One is on, Police Scanner is on, 140mph, lets stop in El Paso and have breakfast with Chris Hills daughter, why sleep!
Breakfast over, lets go to KC heading north in New Mexico we stop at a Wal Mart need more CDS, Chris and I are talked out...
Big Gas tank keep stops to a minimum.
Liberal Kansas, 109 degrees, the back of the Daytona is black from exhaust, must have been from that idiot in the Corvette on the interstate...
Damn, I wish GM had designed the A/C. but this car loves the road, fast comfortable, great sound..
Pulling into KC at 10:30 PM on Sunday we head north to pick the car we left at the airport the day before, then head 50 miles south back to the house..
27 hours, no sleep, 1,680 miles, a few hundred gallons of gas, damn what a car.
I swore I would never get rid of that car unless I got a F40.....
Chris |
Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
New member
Username: Tdf355
Post Number: 10
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 9:42 pm: | |
How about some driving/owning impressions from the people who owned this amazing car. Feel free to make some comparisons to other F-Cars you have owned. Thanks. |
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